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(Message started by: Chieftain on Mar 6th, 2008, 11:10am)

Title: Diff noise
Post by Chieftain on Mar 6th, 2008, 11:10am
What sort of noise  can be expected from a diif that is suspect and any symptoms?

Title: Re: Diff noise
Post by martin_rowe on Mar 6th, 2008, 3:45pm
ANY NOISE IS BAD NOISE.

Title: Re: Diff noise
Post by Chieftain on Mar 6th, 2008, 4:16pm
I know that!!! but what I am trying to tie down is it the diff, sure it is not bearings but was simply asking for some helpful comments on type of noise thta could be expected.  Ie. paying for a diff when it was only the gubins angle dangler at .50p see what I mean :(

Title: Re: Diff noise
Post by peteHull on Mar 6th, 2008, 5:16pm
I am under the impression from other posts on here that it is very uncommon for the diff to go faulty, Noises usually turn out to be wheel bearing based, not neccesarily easy to identify..... Wheel bearings can be problematic and there are lots of posts and info on the main site if you do a search.  I am just wraping up at work to go home so I haven't the time to find them for you, someone else may be along soon.
It definately won't be the gubins angle dangler at .50p cos thes are unbelievably reliable.  I have NEVER had to replace one yet.... ;D

Look on here... http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/transmission.htm

Hth and hope you get it sorted....

Pete

Title: Re: Diff noise
Post by Chieftain on Mar 6th, 2008, 5:21pm
Thanks Pete sure iti s not the bearings both new sets, and it does not sounds like the other halfs car did when the bearing went.  Just a long constant drone thats rises in pitch and falls with the speed.  I have mechanics sat or otherwise in the rear trying to pinpoint this, and all say diff, but I know what you mean about other posts saying diff is rare to fail.  Just want to be sure before paying out.

Title: Re: Diff noise
Post by gozz on Mar 6th, 2008, 5:57pm
  Chieftain.
   These diffs do occasionally suffer from noisy bearings,but the sound is heard more through an open window when passing buildings or fences,and is more of a sighing or hissing sound than the normal drone of a wheel bearing.They go on for years making this noise.
                               GOZZ.

Title: Re: Diff noise
Post by Chieftain on Mar 6th, 2008, 8:32pm
Gozz thenks for that, as I said I am not 100% it is the diff, the noise is very intense with all windows shut, no vibration though, could the centre bearing be at fault? :'(

Title: Re: Diff noise
Post by peteHull on Mar 6th, 2008, 9:50pm

on 03/06/08 at 17:21:49, Chieftain wrote:
Thanks Pete sure iti s not the bearings both new sets, and it does not sounds like the other halfs car did when the bearing went.  Just a long constant drone thats rises in pitch and falls with the speed.  I have mechanics sat or otherwise in the rear trying to pinpoint this, and all say diff, but I know what you mean about other posts saying diff is rare to fail.  Just want to be sure before paying out.

I had the problem with my 2ltr before I got the present one.
A garage fitted a new bearing and it went again within a couple of weeks, I took it to bits and found they had only replaced the race and outer ring, think they couldn't get the inner ring off.
I bought 2 new full sets from motor factors and fitted them myself..... one side began to rumble again after a short period so I took them off again and returned them.  They sent them for testing and guess what.... They refunded my money and said they had been faulty.... Thats 3 bearings up to now  >:(
I then fitted genuine replacements from fmd.... problem solved.  Funny things these bearings.

5 bearing in a couple of months and they didn't even offer compensation for the faulty ones.... and of course I didn't think to argue about it cos I'm too polite....Mug
hth
Pete

Title: Re: Diff noise
Post by Chieftain on Mar 6th, 2008, 10:23pm
Pete what price did FMD charge you?

Title: Re: Diff noise
Post by jonnycab on Mar 7th, 2008, 2:44am
In my experience, diffs tend to drone when they are worn & the drone gets louder & more intense the faster you go  :)

Hope this helps  :)

Title: Re: Diff noise
Post by peteHull on Mar 7th, 2008, 6:30am

on 03/06/08 at 22:23:49, Chieftain wrote:
Pete what price did FMD charge you?


Cor, can't remember of hand, a long time ago with many many pounds spent since.... a phonecall to fmd will soon get you a price.

On my present car 2.3 I have fitted second user one's.... complete hub assemblies and had no problems.  Alot easier to fit too.

hth
Pete

Title: Re: Diff noise
Post by Chieftain on Mar 7th, 2008, 8:10am

on 03/07/08 at 02:44:01, jonnycab wrote:
In my experience, diffs tend to drone when they are worn & the drone gets louder & more intense the faster you go  :)

Hope this helps  :)


It helps a great deal, that is just the effect that I have

Title: Re: Diff noise
Post by gozz on Mar 7th, 2008, 11:25pm
If the gears are getting shot the noise is worse on the overun,and this is in need of urgent seeing to ! Were your wheelbearings fitted by someone in the know,ie were they torqued to 200 ft lbs,the clearance is preset and MUST be torqued correctly,I have known mechanics to treat them as twin taper roller front wheel bearings and just nip them up.
                                 GOZZ

Title: Re: Diff noise
Post by harry.m1byt on Mar 8th, 2008, 1:03pm
My experience of ailing diffs is of a droning noise of a frequency which always matches the cars speed, though it can get louder at certain speeds. They can drone on for many thousands of miles.

Title: Re: Diff noise
Post by mr._floppy on Mar 8th, 2008, 2:28pm
Indeed,   a  slight drone from  the  diff at certain speeds or overrun  doesn't mean it's in imminent  danger of  failure, they are sturdy units.  

I'd advise against the old sawdust trick   :-*     but maybe a  diff oil additive  will reduce the noise a wee bitty.

Title: Re: Diff noise
Post by Chieftain on Mar 8th, 2008, 3:06pm

on 03/08/08 at 13:03:41, harry.m1byt wrote:
My experience of ailing diffs is of a droning noise of a frequency which always matches the cars speed, though it can get louder at certain speeds. They can drone on for many thousands of miles.


Thats sounds as good a descriptions as any, am trying oil additive shortly, Gazz I did the bearings so yes they were torqued up as per correct fig ;D



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