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(Message started by: timduffy7 on Apr 14^th, 2008, 4:15pm)

Title: Power saver relay ?????
Post by timduffy7 on Apr 14^th, 2008, 4:15pm

Hi all. 1998 scorpio 2.3 16v
I have no interior lights or door warning lights. First I checked all fuses. All OK. I then went to check R16 in the auxiliary fuse box. There was no relay present at this location. So I was going to order from fordpartsuk. Treverporter came back to me asking "is this a yellow 4pin Relay with 81AG-14N089-CA"
Since there was no relay present I hadn't a clue. There was a relay as he discribed in R23 so I swapped it into R16, but still no interior or door lights. Could anyone let me know details of R16 Colour-Pins-number. Thanks Tim

Title: Re: Power saver relay ?????
Post by Simmo on Apr 14^th, 2008, 7:13pm

With the aid of my neighbour,who's half my age!!, and thus with A1 vision, I can tell you that the yellow relay, R16 fitted to my 2oltr 16v is the one quoted by Trevor. ;)

Title: Re: Power saver relay ?????
Post by timduffy7 on Apr 15^th, 2008, 4:31pm

Thanks Simmo
I took the yellow relay out of R23 and tried it in R16 but still no joy. I will get back to it in a few days. I think there are several relays the same in the central fusebox, so I will try to swap them. If anybody knows anything else I should look at it will be appreciated if you could pass it on. Thanks again Simmo

Title: Re: Power saver relay ?????
Post by jonnycab on Apr 16^th, 2008, 12:45am

Are you sure you've checked all the relevant fuses ?....

....F36 in battery side fuse box & F24 in drivers side fuse box.

Does the radio work ?....if not then I would deffinately double check the above fuses ;)...... :)

http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/fuseboxes.htm

Title: Re: Power saver relay ?????
Post by timduffy7 on Apr 17^th, 2008, 4:26pm

Thanks Jonny I checked the fuses again. Guess what ---- Yes F36 was blown. I put new fuse in. Sadly still no interior lights. I then removed all lights. looked good all bulbs good all wiring looked as it came of the production line. Only the fitting in the rear lugage compartment felt a little worn. The switch felt a little slack. Couldn't find 12v at any of these fittings ???
In my Owners guide it says relay R16 is the power saver relay, but there is no relay fitted there ??? In the Owners guide it says R22 and R23 are bridge, but in my car R22 is a bridge and R23 has a yellow relay in it ????
I supect when I first checked the fuses they were OK. When I then tried to swap yellow relay from R23 to R16 to see if that would fix the lights. I think I heard a little crackle as I pushed it in. That may have been when the fuse blow. ???
I checked the door lights also. There is a lamp in each door but no electrics. No bulbs no wiring. They are just acting as reflectors. So that sorted that end of it out LOL. Thanks for your help. Tim

Title: Re: Power saver relay ?????
Post by jonnycab on Apr 18^th, 2008, 1:12am

R16 (power saver relay) is defo yellow, I checked mine ;)

Have you had the car long ?....maybe the previous owner had removed the relay because it was faulty & just shoved it in R23 :-/

Have you tried a different relay to the one that you took from R23 ?....The relay could be kaput :-/

Title: Re: Power saver relay ?????
Post by timduffy7 on Apr 18^th, 2008, 11:33pm

Thanks Jonny
followed your advise and BINGO I now have interior lights. Everything now working as far as I know, I'm still a little concerned as my auxillary fusebox is not as stated in the Owners guide. I have taken the relay out of R23, so R23 is now empty. According to the giude there is supposed to be a bridge in it??? The guide states there should be a bridge in both R22 and R23. There is a bridge in R22 but R23 is now empty ??? Could you let me know if your R23 has a bridge in it. If it has is it the same as the bridge in R22. That will let me know which pins to bridge. Also guide states F35 is 30A fuse for Air compressor. In mine F35 is empty ??? As I,ve said everything seems to be working. When I turn AC to LO it is cool, but I don't know how cool it's supposed to be.
Thanks again and thanks Simmo

Title: Re: Power saver relay ?????
Post by Simmo on Apr 19^th, 2008, 9:46am

Hi there. I've just checked mine and can confirm that mine has exactly the same set up as yours. Fuse 35 is empty and there is no bridge in R23. The Air con works so I guess best left alone !!. ;)

Title: Re: Power saver relay ?????
Post by jonnycab on Apr 19^th, 2008, 10:26am

All sorted then ;)

Title: Re: Power saver relay ?????
Post by scorpio_man on Apr 19^th, 2008, 10:34am

Quote:

Also guide states F35 is 30A fuse for Air compressor

hi there

this is for the older style rear pump up shockers. nothing to do with the air con.

hth

Title: Re: Power saver relay ?????
Post by timduffy7 on Apr 19^th, 2008, 2:20pm

Thanks Jonny Simmo, Scorpio. Looks like all sorted Thank you very much for all your info-help.
I just got a Trican OBD cable and software from Alex Peper. So I,ll try and see if I can get it up and running. WHAT Ye THINK. "not mujch chance, since I can't change a fuse on your own" LOLLOLLOL
Thanks all Tim

Title: Re: Power saver relay ?????
Post by Simmo on Apr 19^th, 2008, 3:28pm

Tim, there are several members on here who are well versed in OBD so if you get stuck give a 'shout' and I'm sure they'll be able to help. Just don't ask me!!!. :D