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(Message started by: 10mpg on Jun 28th, 2008, 12:38am)

Title: newbie key fob help, now with added inlet manifold
Post by 10mpg on Jun 28th, 2008, 12:38am
Hi all,
My names Ed live in berkshire mechanic by trade run my own business restoring vinatge and classic cars, doing up a Rover P5b and the worlds rustiest Mustang for myself at the moment...

More to the point ust bought myself a pretty smart 97 Scorpio GhiaX estate as a family wagon, general workhorse, and a car to take us on a driving holiday this year to the south of spain via various bits of France...

Bought it on thursday and have already managed to immobilise with the dashbord in bits it in the entrance to my workshop as it had no dash lights at all (not much fun on the drive home in the dark).

Love the car but have a few questions hope someone here can help...

1) the car seems to wander a lot at high speed, I'm going to get the tracking done tomorrow but is there anything else problematic that is common to these cars/front end It went straight through an MOT on Wednesday so cant be much wrong with it.

2) i cant get the remote to work tried new batteries and replacing the contacts on the buttons with tin foil (well it was a late night afetr several beers idea) treid the 4 clicks on the key reset thing everytime aswell...

I phoned Ford when i ordered the dash bulbs and they wanted £104+vat so i didn't order one of them! my similarly aged Range Rover ones are cheaper than that!

so does anyone have any ideas on how to fix mine or has anyone got one or  two spare that I can buy of them?

(i assume i can just code them to my car)

Thanks in advance guys..

Title: Re: newbie key fob help?
Post by Jonnycab on Jun 28th, 2008, 3:24am
Hi & welcome to the site  ;)

Regarding the lack of dash lights....it could be a faulty headlamp switch......

Have a look at the fault finding page & scroll down to 'electrical concerns'  :).....

http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/faultfinds.htm

Regarding the wandering, could be worn wishbone bushes or ball joints, worn rack/track rod ends or could be just worn tyres. Again, the fault finding page has some info  :)

Hope this helps  :)

Title: Re: newbie key fob help?
Post by scruffygyt on Jun 28th, 2008, 7:48am
the remote on mine didn't work when i bought the car, tried new batteries with no luck took it apart and cleaned with a suitable electrical cleaner and its worked fine since.  oh and welcome to the site.

Title: Re: newbie key fob help?
Post by gozz on Jun 28th, 2008, 10:13am
Ed.
Welcome to the world of the partially insane ! When you said that you had immobilised your Scorp,did you mean because of the lack of dashboard,? as I'm sure you will by now know that the key fob does not immobilise the engine,this is done by the Passive Anti Theft unit which recognises the key chip via a transmitter round the ignition lock.Forgive me if I am teaching granny to suck eggs !
                                         GOZZ.

Title: Re: newbie key fob help?
Post by Geeker on Jun 28th, 2008, 2:55pm
Hi 10mpg and welcome. Did you get the familiar bong sound from the dash when trying to reprogram the remote?

Title: Re: newbie key fob help?
Post by 10mpg on Jun 28th, 2008, 3:16pm
Thanks for the welcome all, I only meant immobilised because the dash is in bits i could drive it but i really think i shouldn't......

Yes I did get the 'bong'  when i was tring to reprogramme the remote but still nothing,  I cleaned the contacts and fiddled with the gubbins inside the 'lil box all to no avail..

I'll have it up on the ramps later and have good prod about the suspension, if there is something badly worn the MOT station the seller used might be getting a visit from VOSA sometime soon.....


Title: Re: newbie key fob help?
Post by 10mpg on Jun 28th, 2008, 10:09pm
grrrr finished putting the dash back together, today fired it up backed it out of the workshop to be met by a hole load of water spraying everywhere >:( ...

d**n themostat housing has a crack running the length of it hope this is a common problem and they are cheap and easy to get hold of........  

Title: Re: newbie key fob help?
Post by Jonnycab on Jun 29th, 2008, 1:13am
If it's a 2.3, then it is common for the manifold to crack around the t-stat housing. Unfortunately they aren't cheap. Ford are the only people that do them, there is no pattern part, & they are about £275  :(

Unless you can get a good second hand one then you have two options....

1) Repair it with Quik Steel or WB Weld putty or similar.

2) Buy a 2.3 Galaxy manifold (identical, but doesn't use the T-stat housing section) & remove all the sensor etc fittings from the Scorp manifold & press them into the Galaxy manifold.

The following link/post may help  :)

....http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=Advice;action=display;num=1211750245

Title: Re: newbie key fob help?
Post by gozz on Jun 29th, 2008, 11:51am
JC.
Have'nt I read about someone converting to an aluminium 2 litre inlet manifold without too much trouble ? Perhaps that may help 10mpg if you happen to know of it.
                                  GOZZ

Title: Re: newbie key fob help?
Post by 10mpg on Jun 29th, 2008, 1:44pm
yeah a quick search showed up this..

http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=cars;action=display;num=1210007243

which apparently has a metal manifold from a 2.0, does anyone know what i would need to do to fit this to mine, seems  like a much better idea that a daft plastic manifold...

Mine has obviously been repaired before so I am reluctant to do it again..

Would i be looking for a scorpio manifold? 2.0 8v I assume?

Title: Re: newbie key fob help, now with added inlet mani
Post by scorpio_man on Jun 29th, 2008, 4:56pm
hi there


Quote:
Would i be looking for a scorpio manifold? 2.0 8v I assume?  


you need the one of the 2.0 16 valve engine as well as the intake pipes.

hth

Title: Re: newbie key fob help, now with added inlet mani
Post by 10mpg on Jun 29th, 2008, 6:57pm
and what mods would it need to fit, does anyone know?

Title: Re: newbie key fob help, now with added inlet mani
Post by Jonnycab on Jun 29th, 2008, 11:40pm
The 2.0 16V inlet manifold will fit the 2.3 16V as (as far as I am aware) they share the same cylinder head. There is a member on here called Matt who has done this. Apparently it is a bit difficult, but not impossible.

As far as I know, the manifold gasket is different & the vacuum pipe connections are not the same. The throttle is different (twin butterfly) & the air trunking, as said before, is also different. I haven't done the mod, so not entirely sure, but Matt may be along soon to tell you how he did it  :)

Title: Re: newbie key fob help, now with added inlet mani
Post by 10mpg on Jul 1st, 2008, 12:18am
Calling Matt



calling Matt..?

Title: Re: newbie key fob help, now with added inlet mani
Post by Simmo on Jul 1st, 2008, 7:05am
Have a look at your PM's.  :)

Title: Re: newbie key fob help, now with added inlet mani
Post by 10mpg on Jul 1st, 2008, 8:57am
Thanks for that I sent him a PM and an email lats night, as I'm off to the scrapyard later..

Title: Re: newbie key fob help, now with added inlet mani
Post by 10mpg on Jul 1st, 2008, 6:27pm
arrrgghh the scrapyard is devoid of scorpios or galaxies....


grrrrrrr >:( :( :o :( :-[



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