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(Message started by: kidman26 on Oct 24^th, 2008, 8:36pm)

Title: engine advice reqd
Post by kidman26 on Oct 24^th, 2008, 8:36pm

i have a 2000 plate smiley front transit with the 2ltr DOHC engine 8v with lpg..(same as or similar to the galaxy lump) i want a bit more performance so was thinking of either a 16v job or would the 2.3 fit on my gearbox ,obviously id have to swap the flywheel & clutch...is the 2.3 the same block as the 2 ltr ..any advice would help..the transit forum put me onto this one ..thanx for any help

Title: Re: engine advice reqd
Post by peteHull on Oct 24^th, 2008, 10:39pm

The 2ltr is different to the 2.3 the heads are the same...16v

hth
pete

Title: Re: engine advice reqd
Post by kidman26 on Oct 24^th, 2008, 10:53pm

so does that mean that the 2.3 16v head will fit my block & also would it give me improvements like bigger vaves etc

Title: Re: engine advice reqd
Post by Highlander on Oct 24^th, 2008, 11:43pm

Hello and welcome, i'm also a member of the transit forum ;)

Dont think the 2.3 head will make much difference, the 2.3 is basically the same engine with a longer stroke.

I would expect although I dont know for sure that the 2.3 block would fit your gearbox, it is a bit higher engine than the 2.0 due to the balancer shaft but the gearboxes are interchangable on the Scorpio therefore if yours fits the 2.0 it should fit the 2.3

The 2.0 16v will give you another 20 bhp the 2.3 will give you and extra 35ish

Have a look around here

http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/DOHC2-3manual.htm

Or you could always try a 2.9 12v or the 2.9 24v Cosworth ;)

Title: Re: engine advice reqd
Post by 5stud on Oct 25^th, 2008, 12:52am

the big problems you will have 1 the 8v lpg inlet manifold willnot fit 16v heads 2 8v exmanifold willnot fit 16v heads 3 scorpio cat converters are bolted to exmanifold and block yours is under the pasingers footwell 4 wireing looms diferent.you can use your head and manefolds on the 23 block but you willnot gane alot in hp

Title: Re: engine advice reqd
Post by kidman26 on Oct 25^th, 2008, 6:29pm

part of the reason im thinkin of changin engine is A: i always pull engines out of what i got and increase the power a bit.B:my engine is on close to 120000 miles & is starting to sound a bit tappy on start up for a while ...so if the head gotta come off for new hydraulic followers & timing chain and tensioner then why not add another 8valves..or can i get a high lift cam & new followers ..i thought with the mileage to just go for a lower milage 16v complete lump but in an ideal world i want to maintain the lpg..

Title: Re: engine advice reqd
Post by kidman26 on Oct 25^th, 2008, 6:53pm

up date : ive got my eyes on a 2.3 petrol /lpg DOHC lump in a later transit (02 plate) mines a 2000 plate (last of the smileys !!)should i go for that one & what else might i need ecu? etc

Title: Re: engine advice reqd
Post by scorpio_man on Oct 25^th, 2008, 7:35pm

on 10/25/08 at 18:53:10, kidman26 wrote:

up date : ive got my eyes on a 2.3 petrol /lpg DOHC lump in a later transit (02 plate) mines a 2000 plate (last of the smileys !!)should i go for that one & what else might i need ecu? etc

hi there

yes, get everything that you can get your hands on. :)

both ecu's, wiring, any and all sensors, etc.

hth

Title: Re: engine advice reqd
Post by RICHY on Oct 25^th, 2008, 8:51pm

also maybe try a set of cams from the rs2000 16v escort :)
i am in the process of building up a 2.3 scorpio block with a rs2000 16v head and sump i am hoping for at least 180bhp and about the same torque

all to go in my fwd mk5 escort rs2000

Title: Re: engine advice reqd
Post by Highlander on Oct 25^th, 2008, 10:05pm

The 2.9 BOA out of the Granada has been done a few times on the Transit ;)

Title: Re: engine advice reqd
Post by kidman26 on Oct 25^th, 2008, 10:28pm

as its a working van i dont want it off the road any longer than necessary otherwise id go for it COSWORTH ......im aiming at a near straight swap with maybe minor alteration/fabrication but also a nice gain in power

Title: Re: engine advice reqd
Post by Highlander on Oct 26^th, 2008, 3:20pm

What diff ratio are you running on?? a higher ratio diff will make it shift ;)

Title: Re: engine advice reqd
Post by kidman26 on Oct 26^th, 2008, 6:17pm

i aint got a clue but ive never changed a diff in me life ,sounds a bit technical to me .easier to just change complete axle

Title: Re: engine advice reqd
Post by Highlander on Oct 26^th, 2008, 6:49pm

on 10/26/08 at 18:17:30, kidman26 wrote:

i aint got a clue but ive never changed a diff in me life ,sounds a bit technical to me .easier to just change complete axle

But you're going to do an engine swap?? ;)

Your vin plate will give you the diff ratio, or at least the code for it

Title: Re: engine advice reqd
Post by kidman26 on Oct 26^th, 2008, 7:12pm

straight engine swap is easy,thats why im trying to go for a similar engine again