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(Message started by: IanF on Jan 28^th, 2009, 11:33am)

Title: Red Key Warning
Post by IanF on Jan 28^th, 2009, 11:33am

We all know how important the red key is don't we? I purchased a second Cosworth estate a couple of weeks ago and the red key was nowhere to be found so off I trot to my local dealer to get a red key, spare black key and the required (red key) programming as we can do the black ones ourselves.

First off, a red key and a black key £63! Programming £60 - ouch!!

Of greater concern after an hour and a half the service receptionist came over and apologies for the delay and relates the following.

"This won't mean a thing to you sir but, the IDS system will not communicate with your car, we had to dig out our old WDS 2000 system, good job it still works."

So, if this is the case, keys become even more important should your dealer not have a working WDS 2000.

Cheers, Ian

Title: Re: Red Key Warning
Post by dave44 on Jan 28^th, 2009, 2:25pm

not sure where you are IANF but i have not had my scorp long(since nov 08 ) but only one key came with it black key red tab anyway he got me two blanks cut them programmed them also programmed two vw micro bus keys all for £70 sorry i am in essex if its any use to you i can provide more information again sorry nit very good at typing or computers

Title: Re: Red Key Warning
Post by IanF on Jan 28^th, 2009, 2:40pm

Up in sunny Lincolnshire ;D The Cosworth has a PATS system, not sure about security on other models but you cannot program a red spot key without the red key on the Cosworth and my biggest concern is the phasing out of the WDS 5000 without (it appears) any replacement for the future.

If there is an aftermarket "fix" for this problem then great, is your vehicle of the Cosworth flavour?

Cheers, Ian

Title: Re: Red Key Warning
Post by Chieftain on Jan 28^th, 2009, 3:32pm

Tewkesbury Ford quoted me £70 all in to do it, but never got round to it, perhaps should consider it.

Title: Re: Red Key Warning
Post by rich1 on Jan 28^th, 2009, 6:26pm

got my red key locked in a safe ;)

Title: Re: Red Key Warning
Post by Chieftain on Jan 29^th, 2009, 1:07pm

A bit confused now as earlier it was pointed out that a good locksmith could "clone" a black key, now it seems that if you have a Cossie it can not be done.

Just phoned 2 dealers from N Wales 1 quoted £163
the other charged £17 for each key and £60 for programming, amazing.

Title: Re: Red Key Warning
Post by scorpio_man on Jan 29^th, 2009, 6:11pm

hi there

a good locksmith CAN copy key and re-program the PATS system.

there's nothing 'special' about the cosworth. it's still a scorpio.

hth