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(Message started by: Souleyman on Apr 3^rd, 2009, 12:43pm)

Title: Sunroof global closing control
Post by Souleyman on Apr 3^rd, 2009, 12:43pm

Hi there! ;)
Need information about global closing(opening) signals for sunroof motor.

http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/ilsunroof.htm

It has two yellow/green and white/green wires for this control, but I very interesting to know what of this two wires makes closing the sunroof and what makes opening.
And another one question, what kind of signals controls this function thru those wires (earth, +12V or something else)?

Cheers!
And sorry for my english mates

Title: Re: Sunroof global closing control
Post by wojtekor on Apr 3^rd, 2009, 12:50pm

priviet!

you're on the wrong forum mate this site is about 1994-1998 Scorpio ;) you're using the Granada model {based on your avatar and your website} [yes yes it was also called Scorpio on the continent but in the UK it wasn't] so I don't think anyone here will have sufficient knowledge about your car.

Sure it's worth a shot ;)

Title: Re: Sunroof global closing control
Post by Highlander on Apr 3^rd, 2009, 12:57pm

Not sure about the Granada but i'm pretty sure they will be the same on the Scorpio.

This is a better site for the Granada or Scorpio 1 as it was known outside the UK

http://www.granada-and-scorpio-online.com/

Title: Re: Sunroof global closing control
Post by Simmo on Apr 3^rd, 2009, 12:59pm

If it helps the wiring diagram for 'our' cars is Here (http://cid-eb36f845ea9b8fb6.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/WIRING%20DIAGRAMS/SUNROOF.pdf). Your English is better than my Russian!!. ;D

Title: Re: Sunroof global closing control
Post by Highlander on Apr 3^rd, 2009, 1:18pm

http://i42.tinypic.com/246jux2.jpg ;)

Title: Re: Sunroof global closing control
Post by wojtekor on Apr 3^rd, 2009, 1:23pm

;)

Title: Re: Sunroof global closing control
Post by Souleyman on Apr 3^rd, 2009, 1:50pm

on 04/03/09 at 12:50:59, wojtekor wrote:

;D Privet!

No mate I especial wrote here because the global closing function was only in 94+ Scorpios. And you absolutely right I have two Granny (86 with Cosworth BOA and 92 with Cosworth 2.0 turbo) but I want to install auto closing function on my sunroof when I turning on security system.
I've made this with my electric windows but old scorpio sunroof motor have no auto closing function. The sunroof does not see in what position it is before closing but your Scorpios can do it.

Title: Re: Sunroof global closing control
Post by Souleyman on Apr 3^rd, 2009, 1:54pm

on 04/03/09 at 13:18:24, Highlander wrote:

http://i42.tinypic.com/246jux2.jpg ;)

Great mate!!! }{ ;D

Title: Re: Sunroof global closing control
Post by Highlander on Apr 3^rd, 2009, 2:02pm

Im not sure about the wiring, I know there are multiplex uses on other parts of the Scorpio but whether the sunroof uses this and receives the open/close signal from a module somewhere or just the standard 12v +ve and -ve I have no idea.

Multimeter time maybe ;)

Title: Re: Sunroof global closing control
Post by Souleyman on Apr 3^rd, 2009, 2:03pm

on 04/03/09 at 12:59:31, Simmo wrote:

If it helps the wiring diagram for 'our' cars is Here (http://cid-eb36f845ea9b8fb6.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/WIRING%20DIAGRAMS/SUNROOF.pdf). Your English is better than my Russian!!. ;D

I sitting with the dictionary. Really I know english slightly better than you know russian mate ;)

About diagrams thanks a lot I have it but they don't show what kind of signals the central control module (CCM) send to Sunroof unit to close it.
Maybe somebody knows about it?

Title: Re: Sunroof global closing control
Post by Souleyman on Apr 3^rd, 2009, 2:09pm

on 04/03/09 at 14:02:07, Highlander wrote:

Multimeter time maybe ;)

I with pleasure, but at me at hand only the motor and no 94+ Scorpio with CCM. :)
And I am afraid to give on it a signal which will kill him...

Title: Re: Sunroof global closing control
Post by Tompion on Apr 5^th, 2009, 12:09am

Did you click through to the other diagram for global closing or just the one Simmo sent for the sunroof.
Probably doesn't give what you want, but all diagrams here:
http://cid-eb36f845ea9b8fb6.skydrive.live.com/browse.aspx/WIRING%20DIAGRAMS

Dave

Title: Re: Sunroof global closing control
Post by Souleyman on Apr 9^th, 2009, 4:07pm

Experiment solves all. ;D
Have been very surprised, but the global opening/closing controls by constantly applying +12V during opening or closing the roof till the end of it motion. Strange decision. :o
I hoped, that it will be a -ve, and that signal will be not constant, and only an impulse.

But also it will be possible to force to work it!

Many thanks mates!