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(Message started by: wojtekor on Apr 4th, 2009, 12:27am)
Title: XENON conversion
Post by wojtekor on Apr 4th, 2009, 12:27am
Has anyone converted their headlamps to xenon?
I was thinking about using this set;
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FORD-SCORPIO-95-98-XENON-5000K-HID-CONVERSION-KIT-H1_W0QQitemZ220327908700QQihZ012QQcategoryZ72235QQcmdZViewItem

has anyone used something similar? how did that work out? is it really so easy to fit as they say?

any advise will be much appreciated.

cheers
Title: Re: XENON conversion
Post by Snoopy on Apr 4th, 2009, 8:01am
Yes Baz did his 24v Cosworth there are some pictures on one of the older posts if I find it I will post the link
Not Baz's job but here is another one http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=Advice;action=display;num=1202938745;start=35#35
Title: Re: XENON conversion
Post by gozz on Apr 4th, 2009, 8:42am
I think Savvy may have converted the ex Big Neil Y reg as well.
                                            GOZZ.
Title: Re: XENON conversion
Post by Matt on Apr 6th, 2009, 6:23pm
ive done mine, its a easy conversion, plug and play, 6000k is best for the scorpio,

give the focusing lenses a good clean too
Title: Re: XENON conversion
Post by wojtekor on Apr 6th, 2009, 7:19pm
cheers Matt, i'll give it a try in the next few weeks ;)
Title: Re: XENON conversion
Post by lesterlad on Apr 6th, 2009, 10:47pm

on 04/06/09 at 18:23:31, Matt wrote:
ive done mine, its a easy conversion, plug and play, 6000k is best for the scorpio,

give the focusing lenses a good clean too

Is that a Headlight unit out job or can it be cleaned in situ ?
Title: Re: XENON conversion
Post by Baz on Apr 7th, 2009, 8:58am
When i fitted mine, i took the front lenses off the car and did everything in situ. The ballast units were fitted behind the lamp units where there is more room and they are less likely to get damaged or wet!

It took about 2 or 3 hours to do everything and looked pretty good at the end
Title: Re: XENON conversion
Post by Scorpio_Mike on Apr 7th, 2009, 3:12pm
Pretty sure these Xenon conversions with aftermarket kits are not legal... :-/
Title: Re: XENON conversion
Post by wojtekor on Apr 7th, 2009, 3:50pm
Mike you're joking?! god, i was just about to order them... [got my ebay opened in another tab]
Title: Re: XENON conversion
Post by Matt on Apr 7th, 2009, 5:57pm
its easlier if you take the whole lamp out as you need to get the front glass lense off to do it
Title: Re: XENON conversion
Post by amigafan2003 on Apr 7th, 2009, 6:36pm

Quote:
Pretty sure these Xenon conversions with aftermarket kits are not legal... Undecided


As with most things, it's open to debate.  The sticking point is not the light itself but the self leveling mechanism (or lack of when retro-fitted).

Myself - my old car always went through MOT's no probs with HID fitted.  A friends car failed on the HID's - took it to a different garagae - they passed it. :-/
Title: Re: XENON conversion
Post by wojtekor on Apr 7th, 2009, 8:06pm
so it's basically better not to mess with it...
Title: Re: XENON conversion
Post by rich1 on Apr 7th, 2009, 10:07pm
is it not the light that are illegal , but some of the colours that people use??
Title: Re: XENON conversion
Post by amigafan2003 on Apr 8th, 2009, 8:03am

Quote:
is it not the light that are illegal , but some of the colours that people use??


Not really.  There are three main points:-

Anything that isn't white SHOULD fail
You need self levelers
You need headlamp washers.

It's all open to interpretation.  I'm firnedly with my MOT center and they don't see any issues with them as long as they are the right colour, the headlamps are clean when they test the car and the beam pattern is correct.

Other MOT tester however don't like them.


Quote:
so it's basically better not to mess with it...


Have a chat with the chap that does your MOT's for his opinion.  For what it's worth, I know many more cars with aftermarket kits that pass rather than fail.
Title: Re: XENON conversion
Post by tlundkvi on Apr 8th, 2009, 10:13am

on 04/08/09 at 08:03:25, amigafan2003 wrote:
Anything that isn't white SHOULD fail
You need self levelers
You need headlamp washers.

+ the headlight needs to be approved to be used in conjunction with HID bulbs (however problems are less likely with projector lens lights). Some say that HID bulbs are not too good with reflector lights.

The reason why they pass: MOT is carried out by humans and is subjective. Some technicians pay more attention to dangerous cars with bad brakes etc. than §§§.

BUT, to have mounted ballasts in the hood is not illegal. Just use the aftermarket HID 364 days/year and the halogens on MOT-day.
Title: Re: XENON conversion
Post by wojtekor on Apr 22nd, 2009, 4:46pm
i went to the garage today to check the progress on my car and as they also run an MOT station i asked them about those conversion kits and i've  been told that they are 1000% road legal as long as they are about 6000 Kelvins above that they are to bright and below they don't exactly give the white light... so i'll be buying a 6000K conversion kit soon :)
Title: Re: XENON conversion
Post by tlundkvi on Apr 25th, 2009, 3:11pm

on 04/07/09 at 20:06:44, wojtekor wrote:
so it's basically better not to mess with it...


You just take them off on MOT Day, or disconnect it and put the standard bulb in. They can't fail because ballasts are mounted but not in use. If you get stopped by the police, you can say you were assured they were legal.
Title: Re: XENON conversion
Post by wojtekor on Apr 25th, 2009, 3:46pm
tlundkvi they are legal, under certain conditions stated in my previous post  8)
Title: Re: XENON conversion
Post by Tekno on Sep 20th, 2009, 9:32am
Which parking light bulbs have you used? Original bulb looks so yellow with xenons  ::)
Title: Re: XENON conversion
Post by a900one on Sep 20th, 2009, 2:27pm
I put hids in about 12 months ago and it passed the  mot with no problems, I used the 6000k and just replaced them in place, not to hard. The only down side is I get flashed a bit unless I point them down a bit.
Title: Re: XENON conversion
Post by Tekno on Sep 20th, 2009, 8:58pm
I ordered couple sets of these:
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.13043

I'll report with pics how they look.
Title: Re: XENON conversion
Post by martin_rowe on Sep 21st, 2009, 9:15am
only function, colour & beam pattern are part of MOT, bulbs below 4500k are yellow, bulbs over 6000k are too blue, for visability either of these work best, I have 55w 6000k HID in both dip & mains, very impressive.
Title: Re: XENON conversion
Post by Tekno on Sep 21st, 2009, 9:31am
What you have in parking light? Original 5W T10 bulb?

http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/5301/dsc04964.th.jpg (http://img71.imageshack.us/i/dsc04964.jpg/)

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/7524/dsc04966n.th.jpg (http://img41.imageshack.us/i/dsc04966n.jpg/)

Upper picture is parking light (5W T10)
And second is parking light + 6000K xenon in driving light

In daylight they look horrible together :[


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