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(Message started by: shooshyneman on Jul 14^th, 2009, 1:07pm)

Title: Rear Shock Absorbers Estate
Post by shooshyneman on Jul 14^th, 2009, 1:07pm

I have oil leaking from a rear shock absorber is it an easy job? Its the estate version.
It looks like a normal shocker so doesnt seem to have self leveling etc However I am told there are oil filled and gas types is this true?

Title: Re: Rear Shock Absorbers Estate
Post by tlundkvi on Jul 14^th, 2009, 2:14pm

I believe all estates had selflevelling, check the supension manual on the site. If there was a make of regular shockers for the estate I'm sure many are interested in knowing what brand and type number it has. New estate shockers are very expensive (you can easily fit regular shockers on the saloon if air shockers are installed).

Title: Re: Rear Shock Absorbers Estate
Post by shooshyneman on Jul 14^th, 2009, 5:50pm

How do these self levelling ones work? looking at the manual I have a linkage to the anti roll bar, Yes. Then if they are self levelling it seems there is a pipe which runs from this shocker to the other side. I have no pipe there does not appear to be a connection between them concluson ordinary ones or is this wishful thinking, These apear to be factory fit dont beleive they have ever been changed car is 1998 "S" reg 2.5TD Estate

Title: Re: Rear Shock Absorbers Estate
Post by Jonnycab on Jul 14^th, 2009, 6:10pm

The self levelling shocks on Scorp the estate don't have any pipes coming off them as they aren't manually adjustable like the old Granada ones which used a compressor :)

Title: Re: Rear Shock Absorbers Estate
Post by scorpio_man on Jul 14^th, 2009, 6:14pm

hi there

this is the scorpio ones...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v521/scorpio_man/scorpio%20bits/DSCN0826s.jpg

hth

Title: Re: Rear Shock Absorbers Estate
Post by shooshyneman on Jul 14^th, 2009, 7:17pm

Yes thats the one! Is that self levelling? how does that work? Why are they so expensive? £208.00 +vat quoted Does that metal pin slide out of that bush easily? to release the shocker?

Title: Re: Rear Shock Absorbers Estate
Post by Tekno on Jul 14^th, 2009, 8:58pm

In which height does that adjust rear after installing -35mm or -40mm lowering springs ? To same level as with stock springs or to lower? Sorry if stupid question ;D
I have seen lowering set to scorpio estate at ebay...

Title: Re: Rear Shock Absorbers Estate
Post by Highlander on Jul 14^th, 2009, 11:37pm

on 07/14/09 at 19:17:11, shooshyneman wrote:

Yes thats the one! Is that self levelling? how does that work? Why are they so expensive? £208.00 +vat quoted Does that metal pin slide out of that bush easily? to release the shocker?

The ones you have are standard self levelling oil filled shocks.

The metal pin shouldnt come out, that bush is bushed :)
Replacement bushes arent available either!

You need to lower the rear arm to get the shocks/springs out.
Best advice is to look for some second hand ones, there are no cheap alternatives.

Many a good estate has gone to the scrapyard because their owner couldnt justify £500 for two rear shocks, sad but true :-/

Title: Re: Rear Shock Absorbers Estate
Post by Highlander on Jul 14^th, 2009, 11:49pm

New pair on ebay but £400! :-/

Try the parts wanted section for someone breaking one or look on ebay for someone breaking one.

eBay Rear Shocks (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FORD-SCORPIO-2-0-2-5-2-9-ESTATE-SHOCK-ABSORBERS-REAR_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ65Q3a12Q7c66Q3a2Q7c39Q3a1Q7c72Q3a1683Q7c293Q3a1Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem4ce230a7b0QQitemZ330212353968QQptZUKQ5fCarsPartsQ5fVehiclesQ5fCarPartsQ5fSMQQsalenotsupported)

Title: Re: Rear Shock Absorbers Estate
Post by tlundkvi on Jul 15^th, 2009, 6:00pm

I found this article about Nivomat. Interesting reading. Page 4 explains why some aftermarket coil springs appear to be very low quality. The problem is those springs are sold as "also self-levelling" instead of "only self-levelling".

http://www.cadillacfaq.com/faq/answers/pdf/nivomat.pdf

Title: Re: Rear Shock Absorbers Estate
Post by shooshyneman on Jul 15^th, 2009, 6:21pm

Very Interesting, I had no idea they were so clever. No wonder they are so dammned expensive. Now should I replace one or both, new or second hand? anyone with any offers or ideas

Title: Re: Rear Shock Absorbers Estate
Post by Highlander on Jul 15^th, 2009, 7:03pm

up to you :)

I'm a cheapskate motorist, I would (and do) replace one unit with a second hand unit.

The purists out there would fit a pair of new ones but if it works and passes the MOT then what more do you need.

The cost of a pair of new ones fitted would probably exceed the value of your Scorpio ;D

Title: Re: Rear Shock Absorbers Estate
Post by gozz on Jul 15^th, 2009, 10:19pm

shooshyneman.
There is a pair in my shed wasting away,used of course but OK.If you are in the UK or Ireland and send me £50 I'll post em to you.
GOZZ.

Title: Re: Rear Shock Absorbers Estate
Post by Highlander on Jul 15^th, 2009, 10:20pm

Bargain! ;D

Title: Re: Rear Shock Absorbers Estate
Post by Jonnycab on Jul 16^th, 2009, 1:15am

I notice in the link that tlundkvi posted.......'fig.10: Most important NIVOMAT applications'.....it doesn't mention the Scorp estate, but does mention the Mondeo estate (wagon) ???

I wasn't aware that the Mondeo estate ever had self levellers fitted......unless it is referring to the brand new Mondeo.....but it can't be, because the date at the top of the page says '11 Oct 2000' :-/

Title: Re: Rear Shock Absorbers Estate
Post by Highlander on Jul 16^th, 2009, 1:24am

Yep I believe they did (Scorpioman mentioned it) just as expensive though :)

Title: Re: Rear Shock Absorbers Estate
Post by shooshyneman on Jul 16^th, 2009, 9:16am

SOLD !
let me know where to send money to. looks like I.m like Highlander!

Title: Re: Rear Shock Absorbers Estate
Post by tlundkvi on Jul 16^th, 2009, 4:54pm

on 07/16/09 at 01:15:18, Jonnycab wrote:

I have seen some on the Finnish forums (mostly German exports), and in Germany.

Title: Re: Rear Shock Absorbers Estate
Post by SnowyScorpio on Feb 16^th, 2010, 9:04pm

Just checking... but are there still no alternatives to getting a new/used, highly expensive, special absorber to the estate? No other car brand damper one could cram in there or perhaps somehow repair the old one?? Any tipp?

//Snowy

Title: Re: Rear Shock Absorbers Estate
Post by martin_rowe on Feb 17^th, 2010, 9:30am

only ones that fit / work are the oe (boge) ones.

Title: Re: Rear Shock Absorbers Estate
Post by tlundkvi on Feb 17^th, 2010, 11:31am

on 02/16/10 at 21:04:09, SnowyScorpio wrote:

You could try parts wanted, or bildelsbasen.se

You could also try this breaker in Germany scorpioteile24@aol.com

I think Stuart once mentioned if you install a used one it doesn't need to be replaced in pairs, in case only one is broken.

Title: Re: Rear Shock Absorbers Estate
Post by Scorpio_Mike on Feb 17^th, 2010, 11:59am

Has anyone tried fitting the standard shocks from a Mk3 Granada Estate ?
Or do they just not fit ?
Rear suspension set-up was carried over wasn't it ?

Title: Re: Rear Shock Absorbers Estate
Post by SnowyScorpio on Feb 17^th, 2010, 5:55pm

on 02/17/10 at 11:59:44, Scorpio_Mike wrote:

Has anyone tried fitting the standard shocks from a Mk3 Granada Estate ?
Or do they just not fit ?
Rear suspension set-up was carried over wasn't it ?

What car is "Mk3 Granada Estate". What year was they made and so on...

//Snowy

Title: Re: Rear Shock Absorbers Estate
Post by tlundkvi on Feb 17^th, 2010, 6:10pm

on 02/17/10 at 17:55:58, SnowyScorpio wrote:

What car is "Mk3 Granada Estate". What year was they made and so on...

It's the previous Scorpio 86-94, called Granada in the UK. But if they would fit, there would be posts all over.

The saloon shocks are interchangeable 86-98, but the springs are e.g. completely different between Scorpio I and II.