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(Message started by: Tekno on Aug 31^st, 2009, 12:39pm)

Title: Changing heater matrix is a n-i-g-h-t-m-a-r-e
Post by Tekno on Aug 31^st, 2009, 12:39pm

yep ::) third afternoon fighting with this job, *Lots of swearing*

Now I'm looking for second nut (left one) which holds the heater box... Where can it be ???
Are they symmetrically located?

Any advices are appreciated

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/106/dsc04900.th.jpg (http://img42.imageshack.us/i/dsc04900.jpg/)

http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/5107/dsc04901e.th.jpg (http://img39.imageshack.us/i/dsc04901e.jpg/)

Title: Re: Changing heater matrix is a n-i-g-h-t-m-a-r-e
Post by Tompion on Aug 31^st, 2009, 1:43pm

Not done the job myself, but if you mean where it says here:
http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/matrix.htm

"Remove the two nuts securing the heater box to the bulkhead. Note that the bulkhead here is horizontal, (below the air conditioning cooler)"

I believe it's attaching to the filter box on the outside and looking from outside you can see the location of the brackets each side of the box towards the back - might give you an idea of where to look inside the car.

Title: Re: Changing heater matrix is a n-i-g-h-t-m-a-r-e
Post by Tompion on Aug 31^st, 2009, 1:50pm

I assume it's the two slots you can see here:
http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/images/acducting2label.gif

Title: Re: Changing heater matrix is a n-i-g-h-t-m-a-r-e
Post by Tekno on Aug 31^st, 2009, 2:14pm

It was behind left vent (drivers on LHD).
I was not able to see it, but found it with hand :o

Heater box moves a little bit but doesn't want to come out

Title: Re: Changing heater matrix is a n-i-g-h-t-m-a-r-e
Post by Tekno on Aug 31^st, 2009, 2:20pm

Heater matrix almost gets out...

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/6614/dsc04903a.th.jpg (http://img134.imageshack.us/i/dsc04903a.jpg/)

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/6837/dsc04904wqy.th.jpg (http://img10.imageshack.us/i/dsc04904wqy.jpg/)

Title: Re: Changing heater matrix is a n-i-g-h-t-m-a-r-e
Post by Tekno on Aug 31^st, 2009, 2:56pm

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/3157/dsc04906r.th.jpg (http://img268.imageshack.us/i/dsc04906r.jpg/)

New heater matrix is a little bit shorter :P

Title: Re: Changing heater matrix is a n-i-g-h-t-m-a-r-e
Post by Tons_of_fun on Aug 31^st, 2009, 3:31pm

Tekno you are a brave man indeed ;). I once changed the matrix on my granada & vowed never to do one again after that. Your right it is a complete nightmare :-/. I have now said if the matrix packs up on the cossie then im joining the rubber hoses together & buying a 12 volt heater :o. Im too fat & old to be doing jobs like that anymore ;D ;D ;D. your doing a good job m8. Keep it up :)

Title: Re: Changing heater matrix is a n-i-g-h-t-m-a-r-e
Post by lesterlad on Sep 1^st, 2009, 10:55pm

on 08/31/09 at 15:31:06, Tons_of_fun wrote:

I'm too fat & old to be doing jobs like that anymore

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Title: Re: Changing heater matrix is a n-i-g-h-t-m-a-r-e
Post by Jonnycab on Sep 2^nd, 2009, 11:06am

Tekno, where did you get the new matrix from ?......not wishing to alarm you in anyway, but that new matrix may not fit through the gap in the centre of the heater box due to the end being too wide :-/

When I replaced my matrix about 3 years ago (yes, it is a nightmare), I bought a cheap one & it wouldn't fit in the heater box, so I ended up taking it back to the shop & getting the proper one from Ford :)

Good luck :)

Title: Re: Changing heater matrix is a n-i-g-h-t-m-a-r-e
Post by Tekno on Sep 2^nd, 2009, 12:19pm

NOW WHOS THE BOSS ;D ;D ;D ;D

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/1884/dsc04915.jpg

Title: Re: Changing heater matrix is a n-i-g-h-t-m-a-r-e
Post by Tekno on Sep 2^nd, 2009, 12:48pm

on 09/02/09 at 11:06:08, Jonnycab wrote:

I bought that from local car parts store so it's not from Ford. It's meant to be used with sierra,granada and scorpio without CC (and yes my scorpio has CC)

That was very tight, I mean VERY TIGHT to put inside heater box, because cooling fins didn't want go through middle whole. It was not possible to put matrix inside before I ripped whole heater box to outside of car.

Title: Re: Changing heater matrix is a n-i-g-h-t-m-a-r-e
Post by Tekno on Sep 2^nd, 2009, 12:51pm

I did sacrifice 1 centimeter to duct tape (for attaching sealing to matrix end)http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/9016/dsc04916h.jpg
http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/5186/dsc04917.jpg

EHHH, what is this? http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/633/dsc04918p.jpg

View from opposite side: http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/3808/dsc04919h.jpg

Btw there was lot of debris in heater box

Title: Re: Changing heater matrix is a n-i-g-h-t-m-a-r-e
Post by Tekno on Sep 2^nd, 2009, 2:34pm

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/6107/dsc04927h.th.jpg (http://img4.imageshack.us/i/dsc04927h.jpg/)

I used clip to lock second flap to "hot" position.

Time to put it back: http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/335/dsc04930.th.jpg (http://img214.imageshack.us/i/dsc04930.jpg/)

Title: Re: Changing heater matrix is a n-i-g-h-t-m-a-r-e
Post by Tekno on Sep 2^nd, 2009, 5:31pm

Where does that green connector go? ???

http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/6131/dsc04941.th.jpg (http://img376.imageshack.us/i/dsc04941.jpg/)

Title: Re: Changing heater matrix is a n-i-g-h-t-m-a-r-e
Post by Simmo on Sep 2^nd, 2009, 5:40pm

In the picture above (reply 12) there is a green socket,top right. Could it be there??. ???

Title: Re: Changing heater matrix is a n-i-g-h-t-m-a-r-e
Post by Tekno on Sep 3^rd, 2009, 4:05pm

no.. thats relay

Title: Re: Changing heater matrix is a n-i-g-h-t-m-a-r-e
Post by Tekno on Sep 3^rd, 2009, 5:42pm

Ah, it was for PATS module.. but I forget where PATS module should be mounted ;D

Title: Re: Changing heater matrix is a n-i-g-h-t-m-a-r-e
Post by Tekno on Sep 4^th, 2009, 11:27am

What is proper way to get air out from the cooling system?

Title: Re: Changing heater matrix is a n-i-g-h-t-m-a-r-e
Post by Simmo on Sep 4^th, 2009, 1:15pm

Have a read of THIS page (http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/manual/cooling/Drain&Refill.pdf) and see if that helps. ;)

Title: Re: Changing heater matrix is a n-i-g-h-t-m-a-r-e
Post by Tekno on Sep 4^th, 2009, 2:22pm

Should I left expansion reservoir cap removed or how air gets out?

Title: Re: Changing heater matrix is a n-i-g-h-t-m-a-r-e
Post by Jonnycab on Sep 4^th, 2009, 3:49pm

Yep, leave the cap off ;)

If you can't get all the air out (airlock), then pull off the small pipe from the tank that connects to the top hose. Then shove a length (about 3 feet) of transparent tubing in it & attach it high up to the bonnet. Then start the car & get it warm, rev it a few times & watch the air bubbles all come out. When you turn the engine off, wait for a while for anymore air to come out. Then restart it & give a few more revs, then switch off again.

That should get rid of any airlocks in the system :)

Title: Re: Changing heater matrix is a n-i-g-h-t-m-a-r-e
Post by Simmo on Sep 4^th, 2009, 4:10pm

Thanks Jonny !. I was hoping you'd post the 'Jonnycab' method. I have a personal printed copy from 21/03/06 !!!!. ;D Mike.

Title: Re: Changing heater matrix is a n-i-g-h-t-m-a-r-e
Post by Tekno on Sep 4^th, 2009, 4:52pm

Wohoo! Warm cabin now.

Also temperature meter works, because I cleaned solder contacts of it

Title: Re: Changing heater matrix is a n-i-g-h-t-m-a-r-e
Post by Simmo on Sep 4^th, 2009, 5:10pm

Congratulations!!. :D ;D. You must be well pleased to have completed that job!.

Title: Re: Changing heater matrix is a n-i-g-h-t-m-a-r-e
Post by Tekno on Sep 6^th, 2009, 7:30pm

One problem.. I get horrible resonance sound when I turn heater position switch (or whatever it is). It comes when motor turns flaps or something there.