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(Message started by: jon_viola on Nov 11th, 2009, 7:45pm)

Title: Heater Blower Motor(s)
Post by jon_viola on Nov 11th, 2009, 7:45pm
Hi

Does a Scorpio have two of these one for passenger and driver? I only ask because if you change the heat level on the Drivers side you can hear the fan change speed but this does not happen on the passenger side....


Cheers

Jon


Title: Re: Heater Blower Motor(s)
Post by mijfife on Nov 11th, 2009, 8:22pm
Hi Jon, no, there's only one motor for the heater, I know cos I changed mine a while back  :)

Cheers Jim

Title: Re: Heater Blower Motor(s)
Post by jon_viola on Nov 11th, 2009, 8:27pm
Ok, so can you think of any reasons for the symptoms above? Also how do you run you car on veg oil!

Title: Re: Heater Blower Motor(s)
Post by Highlander on Nov 11th, 2009, 8:29pm
Drivers side takes priority and will be controlling the blower settings so the passenger side cannot affect it

Title: Re: Heater Blower Motor(s)
Post by Highlander on Nov 11th, 2009, 8:31pm

on 11/11/09 at 20:27:10, jon_viola wrote:
Also how do you run you car on veg oil!


VERY CHEAPLY!!  ;D

I run two on veg oil, I just pour mine in, Jim has the proper set up for filtering and heating it though, very impressive it  is :)

Title: Re: Heater Blower Motor(s)
Post by scorpio_man on Nov 11th, 2009, 8:32pm

on 11/11/09 at 20:31:29, Highlander wrote:
VERY CHEAPLY!!  ;D

I run two on veg oil, I just pour mine in, Jim has the proper set up for filtering and heating it though, very impressive it  is :)


what? a deep fat fryer? ;D }{

Title: Re: Heater Blower Motor(s)
Post by jon_viola on Nov 11th, 2009, 8:36pm
So just buy a can of veg oil and pour it in? How does it run? Does the engine need any mods/servicing etc etc?

Title: Re: Heater Blower Motor(s)
Post by Highlander on Nov 11th, 2009, 8:48pm
I collect used oil from the local indian take away and let it settle and filter it but if you buy new unused stuff from a supermarket you can pour it straight in , the Scorpio diesel is an ideal engine for it.

Ideally it recommended you have a heater system fitted to heat the oil before it enters the pump but i've been running mine just in standard Scorpio diesels and they run fine, need to mix it with diesel in the wintertime as they can be hard to start in cold weather running on oil only but the rest of the time i run 100% veg oil.

As for the running, i'm still convinced the engines run quieter and better on the veg oil, and the smell!! its just great  ;D

Title: Re: Heater Blower Motor(s)
Post by mijfife on Nov 11th, 2009, 8:56pm
Hi Jon, I ran mine on used veg oil by filtering it clean. The VM engine in the Scorp is very veg tolerant and will happily run high percentages, providing the heater plugs and injectors are in good condition. In the summer months I was running 100% waste oil and adding 5 or 10% unleaded petrol to the oil in the winter. (5% petrol thins the oil by the same amount as 40% diesel)
The only mod I made to my car was fitting a flat plate heat exchanger which used heat from the coolant system to warm the veg oil and prevent the filter waxing up in cold weather. I did 30K on used veg oil with no problems and saved a fortune in fuel costs   :)
I'd recommend having a look at an excellent forum if you are interested, there are details on various filtering set ups there too, if you decide to go down the waste oil route.  http://www.vegetableoildiesel.co.uk/forum/
If you are using fresh oil from the supermarket or cash & carry, there is no need to filter first.
The only thing to watch out for is that you might experience a couple of blocked fuel filters in the first few hundred miles, this is due to the veg oil cleaning out any crud that might be in your diesel tank

Cheers Jim

Title: Re: Heater Blower Motor(s)
Post by mijfife on Nov 11th, 2009, 8:58pm
I'd agree with Stuart, the motor smells brilliant  ;D
Have you got my ex Scorpio fixed yet Stuart?

Cheers Jim

Title: Re: Heater Blower Motor(s)
Post by Highlander on Nov 11th, 2009, 9:01pm
Not yet Jim, its at the other side of the country but i have the parts for it.

Hows the Merc doing, got it on the veg yet?

Title: Re: Heater Blower Motor(s)
Post by Highlander on Nov 11th, 2009, 9:09pm
Another tip if you go collecting waste veg oil..

chip shops rarely have used oil, going by the ones I enquired at they just constantly top it up as it burns off or is sold in your chips :)

Chinese takeaways also rarely have any as it is apparently used in large quantities to make chinese curry!! that put me off beef currys!! ;)

Indian restaurants which sell purely indian food give the best waste oil to work with, very little fat content compared to those which also do hamburgers, kebabs etc

took me a while to work that out but it saves a lot of time if you get good stuff to work with ;)

Also, every now and again they make a big batch of garlic and coriander pakora which gives the exhaust a lovely smell  ;D

Title: Re: Heater Blower Motor(s)
Post by mijfife on Nov 11th, 2009, 9:10pm
Merc's going great Stuart, still on diesel tho  :( I've got the new heater plugs and hoping to get them fitted in the next week along with some viton o rings on the fuel system then I'll get onto the Veg and start saving a fortune again  ;D

Cheers Jim

Title: Re: Heater Blower Motor(s)
Post by Technology2005 on Nov 11th, 2009, 9:26pm
Aren't there customs and excise duty pitfalls in doing this? I'm sure I read somewhere that they get a tad upset if you don't do things by the book and pay some duty even on waste oil?

David

Title: Re: Heater Blower Motor(s)
Post by jon_viola on Nov 11th, 2009, 9:32pm
On waste oil, yes. on veg oil from a supermarket no up to 2500ltrs a year.

Title: Re: Heater Blower Motor(s)
Post by Highlander on Nov 11th, 2009, 9:35pm
You need to keep records of what you are doing/using but as Jon says you are allowed up to 2500 litres per year before you start to incur duty

Title: Re: Heater Blower Motor(s)
Post by mijfife on Nov 11th, 2009, 9:39pm
It's a 2500 ltr limit on  new oil, waste oil & biodiesel, all you have to do is keep records but there is no need to register with the Customs & Excise unless you are using over the 2500ltr limit



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