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(Message started by: scorpsteve on Apr 13^th, 2010, 6:34pm)

Title: front wishbone bushes
Post by scorpsteve on Apr 13^th, 2010, 6:34pm

Does anyone know how easy/hard it is to change the front bushes on the front wishbones.

any advice greatly appreciated

Title: Re: front wishbone bushes
Post by Highlander on Apr 13^th, 2010, 6:43pm

EASY! ;D

burn the old ones out,
new wishbones come with front bushes attached, are the balljoints ok?

Title: Re: front wishbone bushes
Post by scorpsteve on Apr 13^th, 2010, 6:52pm

thank you.
yes ball joints ok and bushes are a lot cheaper than whole arms. :)

Title: Re: front wishbone bushes
Post by Jonnycab on Apr 14^th, 2010, 1:44am

If the wishbone front bushes are shot, then you can usually guarantee than the ball joints won't be far behind, so it could be a load of needless hassle trying to replace the front bushes.

New Ford wishbones are pretty expensive, but Quinton Hazell now do a pattern wishbone. Not sure how much they are, but most pattern parts are usually about half the price of the original Ford parts http://smilearchive.com/s/contrib/sarge/TheSmile.gif

The QH part numbers for the front wishbones are..... LH:- QSJ2101S.... RH:- QSJ2102S

Title: Re: front wishbone bushes
Post by tlundkvi on Apr 14^th, 2010, 7:34am

At least this place has the whole units in Germany IMHO cheap, if it's difficult to find a local retailer:

http://www.parts2go.de/Achsaufhaengung-Radfuehrung/Lenker/Lenkerlagerung/Lenker-Quer-Laengs-Schraeg-/Lenker-Radaufhaengung-QUINTON-HAZELL::849269.html

http://www.parts2go.de/Achsaufhaengung-Radfuehrung/Lenker/Lenkerlagerung/Lenker-Quer-Laengs-Schraeg-/Lenker-Radaufhaengung-QUINTON-HAZELL::849270.html

Would mean 185€ (~£165) for both delivered including taxes.

www.buypartsby.com also sell them, but you need to call for prices (please do post the info if you do).

Title: Re: front wishbone bushes
Post by scorpsteve on Apr 14^th, 2010, 9:14am

just rang the guys at buypartsby a little confusion over the part number but got there in the end
the price wasnt too bad £57.14 for the pair inc vat :) :)

Title: Re: front wishbone bushes
Post by Jonnycab on Apr 14^th, 2010, 9:31am

£57.14 for the pair....don't you mean each ?

I thought they'd be alot cheaper, but I didn't think they'd be that cheap http://smilearchive.com/s/ups/the_turtle/supasmsm0.gif

Title: Re: front wishbone bushes
Post by Scorpio_Mike on Apr 14^th, 2010, 10:03am

on 04/14/10 at 09:31:17, Jonnycab wrote:

£57.14 for the pair....don't you mean each ?

I thought they'd be alot cheaper, but I didn't think they'd be that cheap http://smilearchive.com/s/ups/the_turtle/supasmsm0.gif

Does that include any of the bushes ?
Seem to recall when you buy the Ford wishbones they come with one of the bushes already fitted but not sure if that is front or rear.

Title: Re: front wishbone bushes
Post by tlundkvi on Apr 14^th, 2010, 11:38am

I think the rear bush + nuts etc. comes separately, and the front ones prefitted.

Title: Re: front wishbone bushes
Post by Jonnycab on Apr 14^th, 2010, 11:56am

The plot thickens.....just been in my local motor factors & out of interest I asked him if he could find me a price for the wishbones. He looked them up in his bible (car shop parts catalogue) & they are listed as being produced by both QH & FAI.

He made a couple of phone calls to suppliers & could not get a price !!.....reason being, apparently, although they are listed in both the QH & FAI catalogues, neither company actually produces them yet http://smilearchive.com/s/otn/confused/icon14.gif

Why ?......because Ford haven't yet released the rights for anyone to produce a pattern part http://undergroundfreakz.com/s/otn/other/crazy.gif

Has anyone ever managed to buy one of these pattern wishbones before ?....Or is it really just to make the parts catalogues look thicker ? http://smilearchive.com/s/otn/confused/bluThinking.gif

Title: Re: front wishbone bushes
Post by scorpio_man on Apr 14^th, 2010, 12:03pm

hi there

i posted a while back that i knew the patterned part list had them on it (for years now), but weren't actually available.

hth

Title: Re: front wishbone bushes
Post by tlundkvi on Apr 14^th, 2010, 12:38pm

on 04/14/10 at 11:56:31, Jonnycab wrote:

Has anyone ever managed to buy one of these pattern wishbones before ?....Or is it really just to make the parts catalogues look thicker ? http://smilearchive.com/s/otn/confused/bluThinking.gif

Well, my local factor here in Finland shows them even in stock with an exact number for different cities where they have stores, for a cool price of 199€ per side inc. VAT. Most likely it's a Q&H, mine are still OK, so I didn't check in person (and I will rather consult the german site when they brake).

Title: Re: front wishbone bushes
Post by Jonnycab on Apr 14^th, 2010, 12:41pm

on 04/14/10 at 12:38:00, tlundkvi wrote:

For 199euros per side, I would imagine that they are genuine Ford ones, as that's quite pricey http://undergroundfreakz.com/s/cwm/cwm/wink.gif

Title: Re: front wishbone bushes
Post by scorpsteve on Apr 14^th, 2010, 12:54pm

on 04/14/10 at 09:31:17, Jonnycab wrote:

£57.14 for the pair....don't you mean each ?

I thought they'd be alot cheaper, but I didn't think they'd be that cheap http://smilearchive.com/s/ups/the_turtle/supasmsm0.gif

no i asked him twice if it was for the pair and he was definite and they come with the front bush only.

Title: Re: front wishbone bushes
Post by scorpsteve on Apr 14^th, 2010, 12:56pm

when they get delivered i will let all know how good/bad they are but hopfully they will be ok.

Title: Re: front wishbone bushes
Post by tlundkvi on Apr 14^th, 2010, 1:01pm

on 04/14/10 at 12:41:53, Jonnycab wrote:

For 199euros per side, I would imagine that they are genuine Ford ones, as that's quite pricey http://undergroundfreakz.com/s/cwm/cwm/wink.gif

No, it's just Finland. It's like that mostly with repair parts, sometimes regular service parts too, but also with breaker yards. It is often much better to order from abroad and pay high postage, than to buy locally. For example, some breakers ask 300€ for a complete scorpio door.

Title: Re: front wishbone bushes
Post by scorpsteve on Apr 16^th, 2010, 3:47pm

jsut got my wishbones through from buypartsby and there is a good reason for them being cheap. wrong ones phoned them and they say thats all thats listed for the cossie.
so phoned qh and they do list them but not in production as ford havent released license for them so back to square one. :( :( :(

Title: Re: front wishbone bushes
Post by scorpio_man on Apr 16^th, 2010, 3:56pm

hi there

thought as much!!

it's one of the Achilles heals of the scorpio. that and rear shocks for the estate.

Title: Re: front wishbone bushes
Post by tlundkvi on Apr 16^th, 2010, 4:34pm

Has anyone tried the german company?

Title: Re: front wishbone bushes
Post by gozz on Apr 16^th, 2010, 9:24pm

Steve.
I suppose they gave you a pair of track control arms for a Granada !! it is so difficult to convince parts people that the front suspension is completely different !!
GOZZ.

Title: Re: front wishbone bushes
Post by Tompion on Apr 17^th, 2010, 12:48am

Daft thing is the picture on the buypartsby website shows the correct ones.

Title: Re: front wishbone bushes
Post by scorpsteve on Apr 17^th, 2010, 3:10pm

on 04/17/10 at 00:48:04, Tompion wrote:

Daft thing is the picture on the buypartsby website shows the correct ones.

yes asked him about that he said its just a generic picture.

Title: Re: front wishbone bushes
Post by gozz on Apr 17^th, 2010, 5:35pm

Generic ?? how can one use that to describe wishbones if they are track control arms ? nonsense,hope you are not out of pocket !!
GOZZ.

Title: Re: front wishbone bushes
Post by Jonnycab on Apr 19^th, 2010, 12:35am

Listing any possibly available future parts, along with all available parts, makes the suppliers catalogue look more comprehensive (& thicker)....

Making them look more impressive as a parts supplier to the motor trade ;)