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(Message started by: webbo67 on May 29th, 2010, 3:37pm)

Title: Service at local ford dealer
Post by webbo67 on May 29th, 2010, 3:37pm
Hi All
      Just had my 24v cosworth serviced and mot'd at my local ford dealer and when looking at the invoice i noticed that they had charged me for 6 litres of 5w-30 oil.
According to the owners guide oil capacity including filter is 4.5 litres and it says to use 10w-30.
Who is right? Owners guide or local ford dealer?
Many Thanks
Andy

Title: Re: Service at local ford dealer
Post by tlundkvi on May 29th, 2010, 4:40pm

on 05/29/10 at 15:37:10, webbo67 wrote:
Hi All
      Just had my 24v cosworth serviced and mot'd at my local ford dealer and when looking at the invoice i noticed that they had charged me for 6 litres of 5w-30 oil.
According to the owners guide oil capacity including filter is 4.5 litres and it says to use 10w-30.
Who is right? Owners guide or local ford dealer?
Many Thanks
Andy


5 litres should be reserved, 4.5 is the correct if you're not in a terrible hurry. If they put 6 in I would be very worried, you should check the dipstick level.

Title: Re: Service at local ford dealer
Post by gozz on May 29th, 2010, 5:52pm
10w30 has been superseded by 5w30 semi synthetic,capacity with filter change is 4.5lt.There is much written about fancy lubricants which weren't invented as a normal option at that time.
                                  GOZZ.

Title: Re: Service at local ford dealer
Post by Mike H on May 29th, 2010, 6:16pm
Opened and used 2 new 3 litre packs ??

Title: Re: Service at local ford dealer
Post by Dave2302 on May 29th, 2010, 7:15pm
Fitter got a private job service at the weekend more like

;)

Title: Re: Service at local ford dealer
Post by webbo67 on May 29th, 2010, 8:08pm
Invoice says 1 litre 5w-30 oil £6.95 x6    £41.70 + vat
So I guess that they use 1 litre bottles to make it more profitable for themselves.
Should i go back and complain about the use of 6 litres of oil when the most i should have been charged for is 5 litres?
Its not the money that bothers me its the fact that they might have put more oil in the car than is neccessary
and if one more mechanic calls my car a granada then i will scream. Not that i have anything against granadas i don't. I have driven nothing else all the time i have had a license.
Mark 1 2 3 and now Scorpios. One of them even called it a mondeo!

Title: Re: Service at local ford dealer
Post by rich1 on May 29th, 2010, 8:53pm
just being nosey , but what did fmd sting oops sorry i mean charge for a service???

Title: Re: Service at local ford dealer
Post by tonyboy on May 29th, 2010, 9:00pm
They didn't put 12 spark plugs in aswell did they....... :)

Title: Re: Service at local ford dealer
Post by Highlander on May 29th, 2010, 10:13pm

on 05/29/10 at 20:08:51, webbo67 wrote:
and if one more mechanic calls my car a granada then i will scream. Not that i have anything against granadas i don't. I have driven nothing else all the time i have had a license.
Mark 1 2 3 and now Scorpios. One of them even called it a mondeo!


I've told the story on here before when i went into FMD for 24v oil filters (the only time I ever go) and when I came back out two mechanics from the service area who looked about 14 were walking round it , when they saw it was mine they asked me what it was!!

I told them I wouldn't be bringing it to them to get any work done!! ;)

On a similar vein, another funny one from the small garage next door to where I work...

Was watching the old chap working on an old Suzuki SJ jeep as I have one of those too, he removed the points and was heading over to the office to order a new set when he suddenly stopped, held them out in his hand and asked the young apprentice if he knew what they were... he hadn't a clue!! although the very same apprentice is a genius with the diagnostics/electronics ;)

makes you feel old doesnt it ;)

Title: Re: Service at local ford dealer
Post by Scorpio_Mike on May 29th, 2010, 11:04pm
I would definately complain - either you have been charged for oil they didn't put in your engine or they put too much in which is not good either !

Service manager should be offering you some freebies and chomping on a large portion of humble pie.

Title: Re: Service at local ford dealer
Post by webbo67 on May 30th, 2010, 4:35am
They Charged
£129.99 for service and mot
£49.95 For air con recharge and deodorizer
£703.00 for new pads and discs front and rear and new front flexible brake pipes
Bought car last june for £1000 3 weeks later water leak from engine. Took ford 3 weeks to source parts needed. Repair bill for engine and 2 rear brake pipes that needed doing £1040.00
But i do love these cars so much and S92 MBK drives and looks awesome!
Will call at dealers first thing tues morning.
Should i avoid driving the car or should i just drain out the oil and refill with the correct amount of fresh oil?
Many thanks to everyone

Title: Re: Service at local ford dealer
Post by scorpio_man on May 30th, 2010, 5:23am

on 05/30/10 at 04:35:34, webbo67 wrote:
They Charged
£129.99 for service and mot
£49.95 For air con recharge and deodorizer
£703.00 for new pads and discs front and rear and new front flexible brake pipes
Bought car last june for £1000 3 weeks later water leak from engine. Took ford 3 weeks to source parts needed. Repair bill for engine and 2 rear brake pipes that needed doing £1040.00
But i do love these cars so much and S92 MBK drives and looks awesome!
Will call at dealers first thing tues morning.
Should i avoid driving the car or should i just drain out the oil and refill with the correct amount of fresh oil?
Many thanks to everyone



hi there

if the oil level is at the max on the dip stick then it will be fine.

re the 6 litres quote. they've more than likely quoted you for a mondeo. the diesel and maybe the v6 use a lot of oil. only an idea.

hth


Title: Re: Service at local ford dealer
Post by webbo67 on May 30th, 2010, 5:43am
Will check it later this morning. Not very happy with ford though. Won't be having car serviced there again.
Not really bothered about cost of the oil just the fact that if they have put too much oil in then the resulting damage that could occur!

Title: Re: Service at local ford dealer
Post by PJDavis on May 30th, 2010, 10:16am
Personally I wouldn't go to any Ford dealer local to me.   (North Scotland)   There is no competition so they just do cars as they like, and treat customers as they like.    I know this for a fact, the local dealers are only interested in servicing and fault repairing vehicles less than three years old.   I'm a wee bit fortunate that the parts department manager was one of my engineering apprentices about twenty years ago, so I can generally go and ask questions and get information without too much fuss.   If your not fortunate enough to be able to do routine maintenance on your car, then find a local garage, or maybe not so local that has a good reputation by word of mouth, and make sure they actually know what the car is just by looking at it!   I'm sick of people calling mine a Granada too, I've even had a student ask me how I converted my Yank car to a right hand drive!

Title: Re: Service at local ford dealer
Post by Dave2302 on May 30th, 2010, 11:10am
LOL,

All this just proves what I've known for years....

How many total know nuffink muppets there are in the motor trade ;)

Title: Re: Service at local ford dealer
Post by Chieftain on May 30th, 2010, 12:14pm
As PJ say I have found a good local garage and we put both cars there for MoT or major jobs.  Llandudno Junction Ford never heard of a Scorpio and keep calling Granda Scorpio, then wonder why the parts are different, now found a good FMD for parts anyway.

Title: Re: Service at local ford dealer
Post by Mike H on May 30th, 2010, 1:49pm
I am somewhat stunned by that service bill have to say, I agree with PJ TBH, I'm lucky I've used the same mechanic guy for the past 20+ years, he's self employed so can't afford to faff about. For MOT's he takes it over to a Ford expert near Shoeburyness who knows more about 'em and not make silly assumptions. Plus he's got the FDS2000 ;D


Title: Re: Service at local ford dealer
Post by rich1 on May 30th, 2010, 2:35pm
i agree , that sounds an awful lot of dough , ive been having my motors done by same bloke since i got my first car 1989.......boy i feel old now;-)

Title: Re: Service at local ford dealer
Post by Dave2302 on May 30th, 2010, 7:17pm
Best way guys, once you find a good local garage stick to them, they are getting few and far between now.

Regards Dave



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