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(Message started by: mrham on Aug 9th, 2010, 7:12pm)
Title: lowering an ultima
Post by mrham on Aug 9th, 2010, 7:12pm
has anyone attempted to lower an ultima, it looks like granada underneath bar the front arms so will granada springs fit?
would like to drop it 2 inch really but any advice would be great

cheers
Title: Re: lowering an ultima
Post by Highlander on Aug 18th, 2010, 5:25pm
The front shocks/struts are different so i would assume the springs are although dont know for sure.

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Title: Re: lowering an ultima
Post by gozz on Aug 18th, 2010, 7:42pm
On the Granada hearse by Coleman Milne,the lower two coils of the rear springs were touching together so that the vehicle stood level rather than back up,that would be an easy way,clamp em together and apply localised heat to one coil.
                                                GOZZ.
Title: Re: lowering an ultima
Post by mrham on Aug 19th, 2010, 11:24pm
hi there, ive actually found someone belive it or not who sells lowered springs for my car.drops it by 30mm which when i hold the measuring tape up looks like it will be nice but not silly.

think it will look pretty cool along with the smoked face lift head lamps. will try post some pics when its all done. will fit springs over the wk end

cheers
Title: Re: lowering an ultima
Post by amigafan2003 on Aug 20th, 2010, 4:16pm

Quote:
hi there, ive actually found someone belive it or not who sells lowered springs for my car.


Don't keep the place a secret then!
Title: Re: lowering an ultima
Post by martin_rowe on Aug 20th, 2010, 4:55pm
LESJOFORS make a spring kit for scorpios. lowering will increase neg camber at both ends causing accelerated tyre wear.
Title: Re: lowering an ultima
Post by Matt on Aug 21st, 2010, 12:30pm
HR or summat like that do a kit for the frog eyes, ive got a set in my shed that ive not got rounf to fitting, had them 2 years now!
Title: Re: lowering an ultima
Post by mrham on Aug 22nd, 2010, 8:43am

on 08/21/10 at 12:30:20, Matt wrote:
HR or summat like that do a kit for the frog eyes, ive got a set in my shed that ive not got rounf to fitting, had them 2 years now!



b****r, i got my spring kit friday which i tried to fit. the fronts are on but doesnt lower it 30 mm,only 10 mm!!!

the rears dont fit at all due to them not locating in the spring cup.are the estates different to the saloons,although i was told by him they would fit

cant send them back as they have been  fitted, can you tell me where hr are based or do you want to sell the kit you have

cheers
Title: Re: lowering an ultima
Post by scorpio_man on Aug 22nd, 2010, 9:01am
hi there

is it an estate that you have?

if so, you can't lower an estate as it has self levelling rear suspension.

re the front height level. you need to give it about a month for it to reach it's full drop.

hth
Title: Re: lowering an ultima
Post by Matt on Aug 22nd, 2010, 9:59am
I got mine here http://www.europerformance.co.uk/pages/products/category_results.mhtml?category=hrsprings;car=fordscorpio;manufacturer=hr;sub_category=1

estates have different rear setup to the saloons but i believe that so long as the self levelling system wasnt fitted (was an option) then juts just a normal trailing arm setup so should be lower-able

the drop should be instant but the handling characteristics will take a while to settle down,
Title: Re: lowering an ultima
Post by gozz on Aug 22nd, 2010, 10:41am
mrham.
Estate rear springs have a bigger diameter than the saloon and therefore are not interchangeable.You would need to obtain standard shockers to alter the ride height on the estate.
                            GOZZ.
Title: Re: lowering an ultima
Post by mrham on Aug 22nd, 2010, 9:02pm
hi, mine doesnt have self leveling.just normal shocks front n rear, have found a set for an estate as like gozz says they are bigger on the rear.

just got save up again as they are double the price lol.
oh well
Title: Re: lowering an ultima
Post by Highlander on Aug 22nd, 2010, 9:23pm
ALL estates have self levelling rear shocks, they were offered in the saloon as an option
Title: Re: lowering an ultima
Post by mrham on Aug 23rd, 2010, 12:46pm

on 08/22/10 at 21:23:33, Highlander wrote:
ALL estates have self levelling rear shocks, they were offered in the saloon as an option



ahh right ok, didnt know that, they just look like ordinary shocks

can they be replaced with saloon ones
Title: Re: lowering an ultima
Post by Highlander on Aug 23rd, 2010, 1:37pm
No, completely different, they are a one off which only fit the Scorpio estate.

I didnt know there was a non self levelling option available??
Title: Re: lowering an ultima
Post by mrham on Aug 23rd, 2010, 1:58pm
do you know what the self leveling ones look like.mine dont have any pipes or anything attached as ive had them out already, they are quite thick though
Title: Re: lowering an ultima
Post by mrham on Aug 23rd, 2010, 1:59pm
they look like sierra ones,2 17mm bolts hold them onto the lower arm and one 19mm nut holds it in place through the body

sorry for the stupid questions lol
Title: Re: lowering an ultima
Post by Highlander on Aug 23rd, 2010, 2:09pm

on 08/23/10 at 13:58:12, mrham wrote:
do you know what the self leveling ones look like.mine dont have any pipes or anything attached as ive had them out already, they are quite thick though


You have the self levelling ones, ALL estates have them
Title: Re: lowering an ultima
Post by Highlander on Aug 23rd, 2010, 2:20pm

on 08/23/10 at 13:59:55, mrham wrote:
they look like sierra ones,2 17mm bolts hold them onto the lower arm and one 19mm nut holds it in place through the body

sorry for the stupid questions lol


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Title: Re: lowering an ultima
Post by mrham on Aug 23rd, 2010, 2:36pm
excellent, thanks for that.that is what they look like.

least i know now.

many thanks for your time
Title: Re: lowering an ultima
Post by Highlander on Aug 23rd, 2010, 2:46pm
I think a bit of the confusion comes from the earlier Granada system (which was also fitted to the Scorpio saloons as an option) and the likes of gozz's Coleman Milne funeral vehicles which consisted of an air compressor and pipework to inflate the shocks


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