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(Message started by: goldie on Oct 22^nd, 2010, 6:54pm)

Title: front arms
Post by goldie on Oct 22^nd, 2010, 6:54pm

??? hi guys i have a granada scorpio diesel estate and the front arms are out there tree the front wheel moves about 3 inches eaither way !!!
does anyone know where i can get these cheap ???
or if i can change the bushes ??
thanks guys
goldie

Title: Re: granada front arms
Post by gozz on Oct 22^nd, 2010, 9:21pm

You can change the bushes attaching the track control arm to the antiroll bar,the Ford pattern allow some fore and aft movement,when I ran Granadas I used to buy heavy duty bush kits from motor factors which were solid rubber as against the two each side originals with bonded metal.They stop the movement completely,but don't tighten em up until the wheels are on the ground.Obviously if your ball joints are shot you need to replace the arms.
GOZZ.

Title: Re: granada front arms
Post by goldie on Oct 22^nd, 2010, 10:10pm

sorry goz mines the later ultima car i wasnt clear these arms are different !
any ideas ?
thanks goldie

Title: Re: granada front arms
Post by gozz on Oct 22^nd, 2010, 11:33pm

Ah,you have a Scorpio,similar rules apply really,the big rear bush is or was until very recently available about £15 from Ford,it is a void type bush,once again a little play is always present owing to that,but they do disintegrate allowing excessive movement,they are simple to replace.More and more parts are becoming obsolete from Ford,and are not always available as pattern parts.
GOZZ.

Title: Re: granada front arms
Post by goldie on Oct 23^rd, 2010, 11:38pm

you wouldnt happen to have a part number would you ?????
cheers matey ! ;)

Title: Re: granada front arms
Post by Tompion on Oct 24^th, 2010, 12:13am

The bush is here:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Ford-Scorpio-Front-Suspension-Arm-Rearward-Bush-94-98-/390053761424?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item5ad1041190

The Ford Finis 7307905 is given in the ad.

They are part of the same group of firms as here:
http://www.fordpartsuk.com/shop/c/scorpio_suspension_264/

Title: Re: granada front arms
Post by goldie on Oct 24^th, 2010, 12:20am

:D thanks matey yer a star !! another quick question ?
i have a 2.5 turbo diesel are the gearboxes the same as 24v ?

Title: Re: granada front arms
Post by scorpio_man on Oct 24^th, 2010, 6:50am

on 10/24/10 at 00:20:50, goldie wrote:

:D thanks matey yer a star !! another quick question ?
i have a 2.5 turbo diesel are the gearboxes the same as 24v ?

hi there

no, your td auto has the same type of gearbox as the 12v (http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/autotrans.htm)

hth

Title: Re: granada front arms
Post by Tekno on Apr 10^th, 2011, 7:05am

on 10/24/10 at 00:13:27, Tompion wrote:

Has anyone found these made of polyurethane??

What bush is this? http://www.camskill.co.uk/products.php?plid=m51b0s4175p54982

says "1985 to 1996" ?? Didn't granada have same kind of suspension arm rearward bush?

picture of PU version=http://www.powerflex.co.uk/resize_image.php?image=19-103.jpg&w=250

could it be?

Title: Re: granada front arms
Post by Highlander on Apr 10^th, 2011, 12:14pm

on 10/22/10 at 22:10:51, goldie wrote:

sorry goz mines the later ultima car i wasnt clear these arms are different !
any ideas ?
thanks goldie

Goldie's car isnt a Granada (despite what he thinks) ;) thats where the confusion is coming from, its a Scorpio.

The "Ultima" is just a trim level, its not a model of car.

Granada (left) Scorpio (Right)

http://i51.tinypic.com/6ym8wl.jpg

Title: Re: granada front arms
Post by gozz on Apr 10^th, 2011, 7:53pm

on 04/10/11 at 07:05:00, Tekno wrote:

That is a Granada diagram.
GOZZ.

Title: Re: front arms
Post by Tekno on Apr 10^th, 2011, 7:55pm

I know, but years 85-96 and "Scorpio" doesnt make any sense. 85-94 or 95-98 would be ok, but thats just ???

Title: Re: front arms
Post by Highlander on Apr 10^th, 2011, 8:00pm

if Ford can't get it right there's no shame in Powerflex making a mistake too ;D

Goldie the front and rear bushes are available fairly cheaply but the balljoint is built into the wishbone and if it fails you need a new wishbone, they are not cheap new and available only as a Ford part.

I just spotted this thread is 6 months old! Can we assume he got the bushes? ;D

Title: Re: front arms
Post by goldie on Apr 11^th, 2011, 12:34am

lol yes i did, got the bushes from ebay sweet as a nut now sorry i didnt post this earlier they were about 50 quid all in and the cars mint now no knockin or anythin !
all i need to know now is what auto gearbox is in my car as its a vm td engine is it the same as any other scorpio auto ???

Title: Re: front arms
Post by Geoff_W on Apr 11^th, 2011, 5:50am

Why? What's wrong with it?

Title: Re: front arms
Post by goldie on Apr 11^th, 2011, 2:05pm

i put a post on here a while ago .
the box seems to be hangin onto gears till about 3000 revs then changes changed all the oil and filter nothing wrong with it
if you rev it hard it changes fine
was told by someone that it maybe a vacume solenoid or an electric solenoid that maybe faulty ???
any ideas ?
cheers ;D

Title: Re: front arms
Post by Geoff_W on Apr 11^th, 2011, 3:18pm

Not really, but having just had work done on mine, the 98 VM auto has electrical elements and is not the same as the 12valve box. does the kickdown work and do you have a full set of gears?

In my case I had no top or overdrive top, which had failed, now sorted and runs fine.

Title: Re: front arms
Post by goldie on Apr 11^th, 2011, 3:58pm

kick down doesnt work but do have all gears !?

Title: Re: front arms
Post by Geoff_W on Apr 11^th, 2011, 8:00pm

Powertrain Control Module?

You could probably do with someone checking the OBD fault-codes to see if there are any faults registering. Whereabouts are you?

Title: Re: front arms
Post by Tompion on Apr 11^th, 2011, 10:04pm

With the petrol engines if the mat gets under the pedal it's enough to prevent kick down, don't know if it's the same for the diesel.

Title: Re: front arms
Post by Tekno on Apr 12^th, 2011, 4:16am

Is it impossible to get PU made bushes to front arm rear bush?

Title: Re: front arms
Post by goldie on Apr 12^th, 2011, 6:04am

yeah i know about the mats and i have none ?
im in birmingham
????