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(Message started by: ro284 on Dec 12th, 2010, 4:23pm)
Title: Wishbones new?
Post by ro284 on Dec 12th, 2010, 4:23pm
As above are new wishbones availiable, i am wary of getting some used ones off ebay and the car still fail the m.o.t! or are new just too expensive?
Thanks Bob
Title: Re: Wishbones new?
Post by Scorpio_Mike on Dec 12th, 2010, 6:31pm
New wishbones are available but cost over £100 each when I last looked. >:(
Title: Re: Wishbones new?
Post by ro284 on Dec 13th, 2010, 11:41am
They have gone up! £170 +vat each! guess i''l have to think again,
Cheers Bob
Title: Re: Wishbones new?
Post by ADroste on Dec 14th, 2010, 6:30pm
http://www.fordpartsuk.com/ offer them slightly cheaper.
However, there may be other sources with lower prices. I just found a German source, which sells the wisbones of QUINTON HAZELL for 87,11€ each (Standard prize 158,87 €). Shipment to UK is 16,66 €.
Sorry, no direct link. (http://www.profiteile-direct.de/index.php/) Search for p/n QSJ2101S resp.QSJ2102S. They also offer them from Bendix (041917B / 041918B). But there is no price info.
Regards
Armin
Title: Re: Wishbones new?
Post by Tompion on Dec 14th, 2010, 7:59pm
Fordparsuk still has them cheaper on their Ebay site (without the rearward bush)
item 360191526189 & 180445390164

Presumably when they run out they’ll be the price of the RH
item 360192364314
Title: Re: Wishbones new?
Post by ro284 on Dec 14th, 2010, 9:38pm
Very helpfull Tompion, Many thanks for that Bob
Title: Re: Wishbones new?
Post by ro284 on Dec 15th, 2010, 11:57am
Well shot myself in the foot there! one was £96 the other £106 i thought i would ask why the other one cost more, the reason i did this is because i thought there may be a difference mechancally in some way! just curious really! but intended to buy!  now the price of the £96 is £144 82! apparently the guy said that one was listed at the wrong price!I was going to buy the two, (plus bushes) but feel a bit peeved and wonder about who i am dealing with here!
Regards sore foot
Title: Re: Wishbones new?
Post by Tompion on Dec 15th, 2010, 10:05pm
They had been that price for some time - I wondered why they'd changed.
Title: Re: Wishbones new?
Post by scorpio_man on Dec 16th, 2010, 9:49am

on 12/14/10 at 18:30:15, ADroste wrote:
http://www.fordpartsuk.com/ offer them slightly cheaper.
However, there may be other sources with lower prices. I just found a German source, which sells the wisbones of QUINTON HAZELL for 87,11€ each (Standard prize 158,87 €). Shipment to UK is 16,66 €.
Sorry, no direct link. (http://www.profiteile-direct.de/index.php/) Search for p/n QSJ2101S resp.QSJ2102S. They also offer them from Bendix (041917B / 041918B). But there is no price info.
Regards
Armin


hi there

afaik, NO replacement wishbones were ever made.

they've been listed for years, but no one has ever been able to get them.

hth
Title: Re: Wishbones new?
Post by lesterlad aka Rodders on Dec 16th, 2010, 2:31pm
???  Are you saying that Fordpartsuk are advertising them for sale but know they have no stock ?   :o    
Title: Re: Wishbones new?
Post by ro284 on Dec 16th, 2010, 2:58pm
No RODDERS, they have them in stock,
this is one of the messages i got, (quote)
I've checked our listing records and you are correct that there is a seperate listing at £106.57p I have had to delete that listing as it is incorrect and is in fact an older listing from last year as the picture on the listing was an old one.

There are no differences in prices between the RH and LH according to the parts catalogue, the retail price for each is at £170.38p inc VAT and with the 15% discount we have offered on each brings the cost down to £144.82p inc VAT

I'm very sorry for the confusion you have now experienced, we have to ensure that we sell our products at the correct price but with the older listing at £106.57 that should not have been listed that is causing the confusion.

I hope this helps resolve the confusion you've experienced, I can only apologise for the old listing being displayed at the different price.
(unquote)
When i first looked following Tompions kind links The RH one was  £96 the N/S was £106, Which is why i asked if there was any difference. They are now £144-82 either side, but i think i will try and find some mot standard used ones now,
cheers Bob
Title: Re: Wishbones new?
Post by Simmo on Dec 16th, 2010, 3:00pm
Rod, I think Andrew is referring to the QH post. I've a feeling Gozz has tried this route and found the same thing.  ;)
Title: Re: Wishbones new?
Post by Jonnycab on Dec 16th, 2010, 4:42pm

on 12/16/10 at 09:49:03, scorpio_man wrote:
hi there

afaik, NO replacement wishbones were ever made.

they've been listed for years, but no one has ever been able to get them.

hth


That's true  ;)   Companies like Quinten Hazel advertise them in their catalogue in the anticipation that they will soon be in production. But Ford (afaik) haven't given the go ahead for anyone else to produce it yet   ::)
Title: Re: Wishbones new?
Post by Scorpio_Mike on Dec 16th, 2010, 4:47pm
The wishbones have apparently been listed in QH, Firstline, FAI and other parts catalogues but have never actually been available. I have spoken with several motor factors about the wishbones and they couldn't believe the price of new Ford supplied ones.
I have the Firstline and FAI ref numbers written down somewhere and will post if I can find them. Maybe someone else can shed some light ?
I even spoke to a technical guy at QH recently and he admitted that although listed in the catalogue, they have never had them, so probably QH not an OE supplier for this part  ???
Badly designed part IMHO not to have a replaceable ball joint.

Unless you feel like shelling out for new ones, used are pretty much the only option  >:(
Title: Re: Wishbones new?
Post by Highlander on Dec 16th, 2010, 5:10pm
We've had a wee look at replacing the balljoints before but as I've never YET had to buy a set myself I've never taken it any further.

it looks fairly straightforward if we can find a good fitting balljoint?

I think at £144 each this is now the way to go! ;D

http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=admin;action=display;num=1292519313;start=0

http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=OT;action=display;num=1275020162
Title: Re: Wishbones new?
Post by Simmo on Dec 16th, 2010, 5:28pm
My recollection is that Jeff {Pinto} found that the actual joint was made by Timkens and his idea was to try and source the correct joint and press it into place. He had access to the equipment necessary to do this. Regretfully he is no longer a Scorpio owner afaik.
Title: Re: Wishbones new?
Post by Highlander on Dec 16th, 2010, 6:44pm
if we can get something like this :

http://i38.tinypic.com/ih79fp.jpg

to fit into this

http://i38.tinypic.com/dllrns.jpg

we're laughing :)

One day I'll take a hollowed out wishbone into the motor factors and get one to fit!
Title: Re: Wishbones new?
Post by gozz on Dec 16th, 2010, 8:45pm
Quinton Hazell do indeed list them,R/H QSJ2102S,L/H QSJ2101S. I haven't yet tested the factors on them  ::)
                            GOZZ.
                                             
Title: Re: Wishbones new?
Post by ADroste on Dec 16th, 2010, 9:24pm

on 12/16/10 at 16:47:26, Scorpio_Mike wrote:
... I even spoke to a technical guy at QH recently and he admitted that although listed in the catalogue, they have never had them...
Strange  ??? I easily found two German webshops, which mark them as available.
http://i53.tinypic.com/k12all.gif
(this is from my previous posting.)

And here is the direct link (http://www.teilesuche24.de/ford/scorpio-ii-gfr-ggr-94/2-3-i-16v-3/lenker-quer-laengs-schraeg-100571) to the second shop. They say shipment within 2 to 3 labour days. There are also two comments that imply that in June 2009 and in November 2010 either of them was available and fitted.

Regards
Armin
Title: Re: Wishbones new?
Post by Scorpio_Mike on Dec 16th, 2010, 9:57pm
My German isn't too good - do they ship to the UK ?
Title: Re: Wishbones new?
Post by lesterlad aka Rodders on Dec 16th, 2010, 10:45pm
Same as my German then,
Up in the top right of the page there is an option to read it in english
From what I can make out it's €15,90  to EU-Countries - by UPS
     
Title: Re: Wishbones new?
Post by Tompion on Dec 16th, 2010, 11:11pm
Here are the wishbones on the English page:

http://seekpart24.com/ford/scorpio-ii-estate-gnr-ggr-94/2-3-i-16v-3/steering-links-wishbone-trailing-link-diagonal-arm-100571
Title: Re: Wishbones new?
Post by ro284 on Dec 20th, 2010, 4:41pm
Please excuse my ignorence! how much is a euro worth in £££s I think i would have bought new from Fordparts if they were at the price advertised, but lost faith in that! the problem is i have only done 200 miles in the the car since buying it and it failed mot! so i really dont know the car and wether it is worth spending a lot on untill i know more about it! of course if i do go down the New parts route, even if i scrapped it, (doesnt bear thinking about!) i could get some money back from those parts,
Thanks for help guys Bob
Title: Re: Wishbones new?
Post by Tompion on Dec 20th, 2010, 6:45pm
Just google for "euros to pounds" and convert the total on one of the calculators.
Title: Re: Wishbones new?
Post by ADroste on Dec 20th, 2010, 8:54pm
At the moment mean rate is 1 EUR = 0,845769 GBP.

Regards
Armin
Title: Re: Wishbones new?
Post by 5stud on Jan 2nd, 2011, 10:18pm
you have a pm .if you no longer nead the wishbones.give me a pm


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