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(Message started by: moonstersi on Jan 30^th, 2012, 7:18pm)

Title: heated front windscreen
Post by moonstersi on Jan 30^th, 2012, 7:18pm

About 3 strips work on my front windscreen now, is there a simple fix or is it totaly useless?

Title: Re: heated front windscreen
Post by Scorpio_Mike on Jan 30^th, 2012, 8:43pm

They do fail over time...
If you have windscreen insurance and the screen has a crack in it I don't think it matters if the heated element works or not as to wether they will pay for a replacement.

Title: Re: heated front windscreen
Post by moonstersi on Jan 30^th, 2012, 9:09pm

Thought as much, its gone its gone huh! Got to decide whether to keep motor, it needs hell of a lot of work now.

Title: Re: heated front windscreen
Post by Tompion on Jan 30^th, 2012, 10:31pm

You could try cleaning the connectors the feeds are easy enough but you have drill out the pop rivets on the side trims to get at the earths which are near the top corners.

http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/manual/windows/windscreen.pdf

Title: Re: heated front windscreen
Post by moonstersi on Feb 1^st, 2012, 4:21am

me and drills not good ...cheers

Title: Re: heated front windscreen
Post by Scorp_Kev on Feb 1^st, 2012, 8:50am

Just for your interest, I had a new screen fitted last Feb, through insurance. Cost me £65.
Without insurance £1102 inc VAT. Phew

:-X

Title: Re: heated front windscreen
Post by Mike H on Feb 1^st, 2012, 1:43pm

http://livinginthepast-audioweb.co.uk/images/misc/surprised.gif

Title: Re: heated front windscreen
Post by Scorpio_Mike on Feb 1^st, 2012, 10:08pm

on 02/01/12 at 08:50:37, Scorp_Kev wrote:

Just for your interest, I had a new screen fitted last Feb, through insurance. Cost me £65.
Without insurance £1102 inc VAT. Phew

:-X

Had mine done a bit over a year ago - £60 excess, total bill about £360 I think ???

Title: Re: heated front windscreen
Post by lleewar on Feb 2^nd, 2012, 6:08pm

Mike, Mine was 60 excess, total bill for screen was under 300.00(autoglass) ;)

Title: Re: heated front windscreen
Post by retiredjames on Feb 3^rd, 2012, 9:04am

I have checked the website given by Tompion. This shows details for a 95 model, ie one connector in each corner of the screen. Am I correct in thinking that the 98 Facelift model has two connectors either side of the bottom of the windscreen? Has anyone, please, any idea of what current is drawn by the heated windscreen? My screen is only working on one side - unfortunately the passenger side but since my wife usually drives from that position anyway it doesn't really cause too much of a problem!!
Cheers,
James

Title: Re: heated front windscreen
Post by Tompion on Feb 3^rd, 2012, 2:40pm

You need to check it again, it says "Disconnect the four heated windscreen connectors (two each side)." ;)

Title: Re: heated front windscreen
Post by Scorp_Kev on Feb 3^rd, 2012, 3:47pm

Mine has 4 (2 each side)

Title: Re: heated front windscreen
Post by Mike H on Feb 3^rd, 2012, 4:30pm

on 02/03/12 at 09:04:39, retiredjames wrote:

Am I correct in thinking that the 98 Facelift model has two connectors either side of the bottom of the windscreen?

Where did that info come from?

If drivers side only not working, maybe just need look at driver's side connectors?

Title: Re: heated front windscreen
Post by a900one on Feb 3^rd, 2012, 5:16pm

My granada scorp and my 98 cosworth, the drivers side on both dont work, while the passenger sides do ???.

Title: Re: heated front windscreen
Post by retiredjames on Feb 3^rd, 2012, 5:32pm

Re Mike H's response - this info came from observation under the bonnet. There are two wires coming out of the off side bottom of the screen and two wires coming out of the nearside bottom of the screen. I can't see any wires at the top of the screen.

Cheers
James

Title: Re: heated front windscreen
Post by Tompion on Feb 3^rd, 2012, 7:02pm

on 02/03/12 at 17:32:16, retiredjames wrote:

The PDF is correct, the 2 wires (1 each side) that you can see with connectors are +.
The other 2 wires (1 each side) are earths, their connectors are at the top of the screen but you can’t see the connections unless you take off the side trims by drilling out the rivets. You have to lift the side rubber seal to see the trims.

The 2 wires on the driver’s side are for that side of the screen & the 2 wires the other side are for the other half of the screen.

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The bottom of the rubber seal clips into the trim:

http://i.imgur.com/LDGdx17.jpg

The seal pulled from the trim & the rivets drilled:

http://i.imgur.com/9H1uden.jpg

With the trim removed one of the earth terminals can be seen at the top of the screen:

http://i.imgur.com/M34ET94.jpg

Title: Re: heated front windscreen
Post by PJDavis on Feb 4^th, 2012, 9:51am

Those are very useful photos Tomp'. I wonder if they could be posted into the 'How-To' section so that if any of us needs to get a screen fitted, at least if we are at home we can show the 'fitter'. (especially if he/she hasn't experienced a Scorpio before)

Title: Re: heated front windscreen
Post by Tompion on Feb 4^th, 2012, 2:39pm

I’ll put some details in the 'How-To' section later.

on 02/03/12 at 09:04:39, retiredjames wrote:

Has anyone, please, any idea of what current is drawn by the heated windscreen?

With engine & windscreen on, tested on my recently fitted screen it’s 14 amps per side.

The resistance measured engine off between a positive windscreen terminal and battery earth was 1.4 ohms per side.

Title: Re: heated front windscreen
Post by Simmo on Feb 5^th, 2012, 8:35am

Dave(Tompion) has now posted a detailed account in 'How to do Things'. Thanks Dave.

Title: Re: heated front windscreen
Post by retiredjames on Feb 6^th, 2012, 8:38am

Many thanks to Tompion for his information and photos. I never thought that the top connection would be hidden away where you cannot easily get at it to test. I think my screen will have to remain 50% serviceable and hope for warmer weather soon! The details on current and resistance are most useful. Thanks again.
James

Title: Re: heated front windscreen
Post by Mike H on Feb 6^th, 2012, 12:02pm

Yep very good photos ;D - OK so the 2 wires per side are + & – (earth) for each half - may possiblee trace them back or get connection to them somehow to see if A. got 12V across them; or B. filament resistance? What I mean is, may not be the screen is faulty, but something else further back up the line, i.e. bad wire connection.