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(Message started by: gase on Mar 4^th, 2012, 3:29am)

Title: converting to a ford V8
Post by gase on Mar 4^th, 2012, 3:29am

hi guys has any one tried putting a v8 302 engine into a scorpio. im concidering do it but was not sure if it would fit easily. im thinking the main trouble would be the engine mounts and if it would hit the standard scorpio steering rack. any advice

Title: Re: converting to a ford V8
Post by Matt on Mar 4^th, 2012, 8:38am

Yea a 302 should go in, you will have to check the gearbox tunnel.will be wide enough for the box

new mounts will have to be made but thats not a major job if you can use a welder

Title: Re: converting to a ford V8
Post by PJDavis on Mar 4^th, 2012, 6:32pm

Good one for the 'How to do' section? ;D

Title: Re: converting to a ford V8
Post by Dave2302 on Mar 12^th, 2012, 11:23am

Yeah, you will need the V8 Auto Box and a custom prop too.
If you use a V8 with EECV you should be able to get it to interact succesfully with all the Scorpio's other electronics, without needing to leave the existing ECU in the car, which I'm yet to see done succesfully anyways ;) ..........................

Make no mistake tho, it will be a good 3 - 4 weeks work to wire it all correctly so everything works as it should ;)

Regards Dave

Title: Re: converting to a ford V8
Post by Scorpio_Mike on Mar 12^th, 2012, 8:12pm

Sounds like an interesting project ;)
Plenty of people have dropped V8's into Granadas & Sierras and don't forget Ford made the Sierra XR8 for the South African market which I think had a 302 V8 8)

Title: Re: converting to a ford V8
Post by Dave2302 on Mar 13^th, 2012, 10:10am

That's very true, V8's have been put in all sorts, but not with so much electronics (Grannys, Sierras, I even fitted a V8 Chevy in a Fiat 500 LOLOLOL ) ;)

Yes it would be a relatively simple engineering excercise to fit a Carburrettored V8 and Hydraulic Auto gearbox into anythng Scorpio sized ;D

The problem with doing it to the Scorpio, or indeed any modern car is then the dash clocks don't work, the alarm and PATS don't work, Climate and Fuel Computer don't work, the cruise control don't work etc etc etc, so then you have a pigs ear of a car which does 10 mpg and nothing works right.......................

(I'm not being @rsey BTW, this is meant in the nicest possible way) I love a decent project !! ;)

As the yanks use EECV I suggested it because the Scorpio's PATS, Dash, Cruise, AC etc will recognise EECV so with some careful wiring, it can all be made to work, and should then do better than 10mpg ;D

My recent projects have given me an in depth understanding of EECV, and once you get to grips with it it's brilliant, far better than any aftermarket management system ;)

But it does entail complex, time consuming wiring, even for some so called "Auto Electricians" ;)

HTH, and lets get it started !!

Cheers Dave

Title: Re: converting to a ford V8
Post by Matt on Mar 13^th, 2012, 12:26pm

Yea eecv is a cracking system

weve has a 24v running on a mondeo st ecu so its all possible!

Title: Re: converting to a ford V8
Post by gase on Mar 13^th, 2012, 9:45pm

hi guys, thanks for the imput. im would be looking at working it into a stripped out scorpio and using it on the track so not that worried about the dash as i could replace it with new dials and stuff.

Title: Re: converting to a ford V8
Post by 5stud on Mar 14^th, 2012, 10:24am

the 302 is not a fire breathing monster AS STANDARD .brouther hase a mk2 mustang rhd on a carb its rated at 138 bhp the same as a old 3lt

Title: Re: converting to a ford V8
Post by Dave2302 on Mar 15^th, 2012, 10:06am

on 03/14/12 at 10:24:50, 5stud wrote:

the 302 is not a fire breathing monster AS STANDARD on a carb its rated at 138 bhp the same as a old 3lt

That one must be a Low Compression "Smog" Engine ;)

235 BHP is normal with a very mild "Road" cam, decent compression ratio (around 8.75:1), and a 4 barrel carb on a factory manifold ;D
As with any V8 it's the huge torque and the glorious noise that makes all the difference ;D

With a "Rumpy Idle" Cam, decent inlet and 9.5:1 Comp Ratio I've seen them make 400 BHP, huge torque and they pull from 1100 rpm all the way to 7k ;)

Cheers Dave