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(Message started by: leewar on Jul 23^rd, 2012, 11:03pm)

Title: MAF 24v/12v
Post by leewar on Jul 23^rd, 2012, 11:03pm

Hi Guys, Is the maf on a 24v cosworth the same as the 2.0L 12v ? Need to assist a member. Cheers Lee

Title: Re: MAF 24v/12v
Post by Snoopy on Jul 24^th, 2012, 7:45am

I think it is a standard item there are all the same the only difference will be the physical size of the housing, if if fact there is any.

Title: Re: MAF 24v/12v
Post by Simmo on Jul 24^th, 2012, 8:16am

Dave, I've put up a 'search' link on the other thread re 24v gearbox removal and it appears, as you say, that the function and workings may be the same but the 'fitting' ie: the housing is different thus they are not seemingly a straight swap. :)

Title: Re: MAF 24v/12v
Post by gozz on Jul 24^th, 2012, 8:43am

on 07/23/12 at 23:03:09, leewar wrote:

Hi Guys, Is the maf on a 24v cosworth the same as the 2.0L 12v ? Need to assist a member. Cheers Lee

Lee.
The 24v MAF is different in size,fitment and appearance from the four cylinder engines.The 12v V6 was not of course fitted with a MAF.
GOZZ.

Title: Re: MAF 24v/12v
Post by Dave2302 on Jul 24^th, 2012, 9:42am

But the black plastic "heated wire guts" which is held on with 2 tamper proof torx bolts IS the same on a lot of other Fords of around the same year ;)
Check the part number on the black bit and if it's the same then swap the module into the 24V housing, carefully clean it first ;)

HTH Dave

Title: Re: MAF 24v/12v
Post by PJDavis on Jul 26^th, 2012, 6:50am

on 07/24/12 at 09:42:10, Dave2302 wrote:

Yep, mine is a second-hand item from a same-era Mondeo. The wee elements on mine was goosed, so I took a chance and swapped one from a workshop car, it´s worked for 3 years no-problems, and I´ve cleaned it a few times.

By the way, it´s 32 degrees over here and it´s only 8am in the morning! ;D

Title: Re: MAF 24v/12v
Post by Mike H on Jul 26^th, 2012, 1:21pm

So, can get 2.0L / 2.3L ones easier, Spikies got some, also if want a new one Google for 'ford scorpio mass air flow sensor', a few come up

Title: Re: MAF 24v/12v
Post by Dave2302 on Jul 27^th, 2012, 10:30am

But make sure the plug and number on the guts is the same ;)

Title: Re: MAF 24v/12v
Post by Tompion on Aug 15^th, 2012, 11:16am

The plug is different (I have a 24v one & it doesn't fit my 2.3).

Title: Re: MAF 24v/12v
Post by bernard_slade on Dec 11^th, 2012, 7:17pm

i have noticed that all the mafs allegedly to fit scorpios and mondeos have 4 pins but with three spaced next to each other then a n empty space followed by the fourth pin in what is effectively a 5 pin plug case which obviously wont fit the four pins all next to each other plug on my diesel scorp . my maf bosch 0 281 002 164 appears to be totally unobtainable and all the guts to replace the insert have the wrong plugs -the only ones i have seen with 4 pins like mine are on volkswagen derivatives and listed a £248 not something to chance cannibalising i dont know for sure if mine is working properly i was getting long delays on upshifts on the autobox and cleaning the maf doesnt seem to have made much difference the gearbox appears spot on in all other respects instant engagement clear fluid etc being a scorpio it will probably get better when i replace the illumination bulb in the clock because its totally unrelated

Title: Re: MAF 24v/12v
Post by adam on Dec 11^th, 2012, 10:48pm

Bernard see here http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=Problems;action=display;num=1334258439;start=9#9

Also see here: http://www.expressauto24.net/epages/eb8978.sf/sec131eaad8f3/?ObjectPath=/Shops/eb8978/Products/0281002164

Adam

Title: Re: MAF 24v/12v
Post by bernard_slade on Dec 12^th, 2012, 9:51am

thanks adam excellent info

Title: Re: MAF 24v/12v
Post by bernard_slade on Dec 12^th, 2012, 5:14pm

still experimenting i tried today seeing what happened with the maf disconnected at the plug and on a 5 mile drive i could detect no change in performance .it started as usual wit at least one or more cylinders missing then smoothing out as they all fired just like oily plugs on a petrol i think i might have a glow plug or two not up to scratch or being flooded with too much fuel anyway i have ordered a jeep maf which at least seems to match the 4 pin plug im hoping the plastic body will not need changing but ill see when i get it opening those tamperproof screws is a bit of a problem because my star screwdrivers dont have the indentation in the tip to clear the pimple in the middle of the screwheads anyway i am this far forward thanks to adams posted advice panic over i have found torx tamperproof key for a fiver so they are on the way in case i need them :)

Title: Re: MAF 24v/12v
Post by adam on Dec 12^th, 2012, 5:50pm

Bernard,

If replacement MAF doesn't eradicate fault investigate injectors.
No1 injector has an inbuilt chip which can cause issues.
Glow plugs shouldn't be a problem from reading your post.
Your local motor factors should stock correct tool to remove MAF sensor.

Adam

Title: Re: MAF 24v/12v
Post by bernard_slade on Dec 13^th, 2012, 4:38pm

success i got the jeep cherokee map today and found i didn't even need to change the housing as it was a straight swap all dimensions the same (makes me wonder why bosch bothered to allocate two part numbers -i guess the guts may have slight spec differences )but no matter it works the car now has more get up and go and all for 33 quid a brief return to the suppliers site shows price now revised to £69.99 so ive been extremely lucky there--- the part number is 0281002156 my original was 0281002164 now the unresolved bit see my post on overheat warning light