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(Message started by: Technology2005 on Nov 16^th, 2016, 11:54pm)

Title: Bumper Repair
Post by Technology2005 on Nov 16^th, 2016, 11:54pm

Some scum sucking bottom feeding lowlife has run into the front bumper of my scorpio with the predictable disintegration of said bumper! It now has a lovely large hole to the side of the number plate along with many cracks radiating around and behind the number plate itself. Having seen the eye watering prices of a replacement bumper, plus the hassle of having to respray the whole bumper unless I can find an Ash Black one with headlamp washers(!) I plan to remove the bumper and attempt to repair it.

I hope to be able to fit together the jigsaw of pieces which hopefully are lurking within the bumper cavity and glue some fibre glass matting to the inside to support them and then fill and respray.

I can imagine a few shaking heads and rolling eyes but it has to be worth a shot?

I've found the guide to bumper removal but cannot find the Operation 32 622 0 for removing the windscreen washer fluid reservoir. Anyone done this repair and can enlighten me how to remove the reservoir or is it obvious?

David

Title: Re: Bumper Repair
Post by Scorpio_Mike on Nov 17^th, 2016, 9:46am

Sorry to hear about the damage your Scorpio has suffered.

Screenwash reservoir - once you have taken the bumper off the fixing bolts should be easy to get at - I think there are 3 or 4.

You may find a can of expanding foam helpful to fix your bumper - this provides structure & rigidity to the damaged area and should help fix the broken bits in place before filling any cracks. Don't use too much of it ! Some stiff card or similar behind the damage may help to contain the foam.
Duct tape may help to hold the jigsaw together while you do the repair.
If the bumper was just cracked I would suggest plastic welding - not difficult and I think the plastic welding heat guns are quite affordable now.
Can you post up a pic of the damage ?

Title: Re: Bumper Repair
Post by Technology2005 on Nov 17^th, 2016, 12:05pm

Sadly having inspected the bumper in the light of day there may well be pieces missing :( Can only see a few small pieces in the cavity so jigsaw may make hardly a difference to that gaping hole:

http://i1367.photobucket.com/albums/r791/Technology2005/Car%20Damage%201_zpsjztgilyv.jpg

http://i1367.photobucket.com/albums/r791/Technology2005/Car%20Damage%202_zpsnxq0aseh.jpg

I may have to rebuild the profile as best I can from behind with fibreglass matting (supported by aluminium mesh for strength) and then fill and shape the front.....going to be a right pain but can't really afford a replacement bumper.

Doesn't the washer reservoir have to be removed to take off the bumper? That's what the Ford information implies?

David

Title: Re: Bumper Repair
Post by Simmo on Nov 17^th, 2016, 12:10pm

David. I recently had as similar problem which I overcame so take heart!! ;)
Certainly the more of the 'jigsaw' you can assemble the better and as Mike says duct tape or masking tape will help. I used a fibreglass kit from Halfords together with Isopon P38 paste and their Aluminium Mesh. The mesh was brilliant as you can easily shape it to the contour particularly the slight crease on the top. I fixed this in place with a dab of filler and then used the fibreglass sheet and resin to get a proper repair. All of this was done from inside after thoroughly cleaning and roughing up the area. The next day I used the P38 filler to cover the blemishes on the outside, sprayed it with primer, and undercoat sanding as necessary in between coats. My local bodyshop man sprayed and refitted it for £60. You could do the latter stage yourself with a can if you felt confident but I felt that the cost of a proper job was well worth it.
Let us know how you get on please. :)

Title: Re: Bumper Repair
Post by Simmo on Nov 17^th, 2016, 12:15pm

David, Our posts coincided! I would think that only the connections to the actual washers would need to come off? Use the aluminium mesh. It supports the fibreglass and does a great job. ;)

Mesh (http://www.halfords.com/motoring/paints-body-repair/fillers-preparation/davids-isopon-aluminium-mesh?cm_mmc=Google+PLA-_-Paints+and+Body+Repair-_-Fillers+&+Preparation-_-711606&_$ja=tsid:60494%7Ccgn:GoogleShopping%7Ckw:711606&istCompanyId=b8708c57-7a02-4cf6-b2c0-dc36b54a327e&istItemId=lwmrmi&istBid=tztx&_$ja=tsid:35522|cid:344535484|agid:25439634364|tid:aud-80976661069:pla-289636273674|crid:89827673284|nw:g|rnd:10329378941835497601|dvc:c|adp:1o1&gclid=CNibnr7Vr9ACFUITGwodAIwO_A)
P38 (http://www.halfords.com/motoring/paints-body-repair/fillers-preparation/davids-isopon-p38-easy-sand-250ml)
Fibreglass (http://www.halfords.com/motoring/paints-body-repair/fillers-preparation/davids-fastglass-glass-fibre-kit-small?cm_mmc=Google+PLA-_-Paints+and+Body+Repair-_-Fillers+&+Preparation-_-711309&_$ja=tsid:60494%7Ccgn:GoogleShopping%7Ckw:711309&istCompanyId=b8708c57-7a02-4cf6-b2c0-dc36b54a327e&istItemId=lwlitp&istBid=tztx&_$ja=tsid:35522|cid:344535484|agid:25439634364|tid:aud-80976661549:pla-289636273634|crid:89827673284|nw:g|rnd:14554357949461889954|dvc:c|adp:1o2&gclid=CJ3Zkr_Wr9ACFYu6GwodCo8Fkg)

Title: Re: Bumper Repair
Post by Scorpio_Mike on Nov 17^th, 2016, 1:10pm

I've removed & refitted Scorpio bumpers without removing the washer tank - no reason I can think of why it would need to come out ?
Pics show the extent of the damage quite well - I still think expanding foam is your best option to give the damaged area strength & some structure - you can trim it back before putting fireglass & filler for the final repair before painting.
These bumpers are quite flimsy and where your damage is will mean it is even weaker and I'm sure it will flex more, probably causing glass fibre & filler to crack if that is all you use to fix it.

Title: Re: Bumper Repair
Post by Simmo on Nov 17^th, 2016, 4:17pm

Mike. I certainly see the point you are making about foam in view of the extent of the damage. I'd suggest that using the mesh and fibreglass initially might be easier BUT having done so and got things sealed up that might be the time to apply the foam as you recommend for additional strength and support. :)

Title: Re: Bumper Repair
Post by a900one on Nov 17^th, 2016, 11:52pm

I think the Mondeo bumper has foam in it.