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(Message started by: a900one on Aug 17^th, 2017, 7:02pm)

Title: Sunroof gear
Post by a900one on Aug 17^th, 2017, 7:02pm

Has anyone bought a repair gear off ebay. I have now had the second motor strip the gear, I have freed it up as well. :-X There are two different sellers, one is cheaper, and I dont know the quality.

Title: Re: Sunroof gear
Post by Scorpio_Mike on Aug 17^th, 2017, 9:07pm

Fairly sure I have a spare sunroof motor in my stash if you want one...
Let me know & I'll check 'The Shed'...no doubt Simmo will be along shortly with a comment... ;D

Title: Re: Sunroof gear
Post by Simmo on Aug 18^th, 2017, 1:49pm

;D ;D .....as if I would...!! ;D ;D

Title: Re: Sunroof gear
Post by a900one on Aug 18^th, 2017, 5:51pm

Thanks for the offer but I still have one left in stock ;D. I think it is time to fit the new sunroof I bought some time ago, that is if the screws will come out. ???

Title: Re: Sunroof gear
Post by PJDavis on Aug 18^th, 2017, 11:00pm

Probably wrong of me to say this, I'm not a 'Purist' so, I reverted mine to 'Manual' sunroof, much more controllable, and easier to maintain. Mondeo of the era is a straight swap.

Title: Re: Sunroof gear
Post by a900one on Aug 20^th, 2017, 4:30pm

As I thought, one screw, front n/s of sunroof, wont move >:( any tips. Got all the rest out without to much problem, lots of rust around screw mount.

Title: Re: Sunroof gear
Post by Scorpio_Mike on Aug 20^th, 2017, 4:55pm

WD40, repeat as necessary :-/

Title: Re: Sunroof gear
Post by Simmo on Aug 20^th, 2017, 6:15pm

Try Plus Gas (https://www.amazon.co.uk/English-Abrasives-809-10-Plusgas-250ml/dp/B0001P02S4/ref=pd_bxgy_60_img_2?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=TS053SWM88STE03AWY1P). I've found it will work where others fail.

Heat is also a great 'easer' of rust. I'd try a soldering iron held directly on the screw head. :)

Title: Re: Sunroof gear
Post by Scorpio_Mike on Aug 20^th, 2017, 6:37pm

There are also some freeze sprays which are supposed to 'shock' the seized up screw / nut / etc...
Halfords do one - Shock & Unlock, Loctite - Freeze & Release, Wurth - Rost Off Ice
I'm sure there are many more !

Don't be tempted to use an impact driver as the parts to which the sunroof fix are largely plastic mouldings which break quite easily...I speak from experience... :-[

Title: Re: Sunroof gear
Post by a900one on Aug 20^th, 2017, 11:16pm

As you say most of it is plastic, I changed one on the Granada scorpio, and I think most of them went round in the plastic. I will look into the freeze things as the brass insert is going round in the plastic now, they even put locktite on the screws to make things more of a problem. I have been spraying the screws for about 10 years now, as I wanted to replace the glass panel at some time.

Title: Re: Sunroof gear
Post by Scorpio_Mike on Aug 21^st, 2017, 7:17am

You may have to remove the complete sunroof assembly to resolve this :o

Title: Re: Sunroof gear
Post by a900one on Aug 21^st, 2017, 9:17am

on 08/21/17 at 07:17:46, Scorpio_Mike wrote:

You may have to remove the complete sunroof assembly to resolve this :o

I hope your wrong on that one, its all but out. I may have to drill the screw.
:o

Title: Re: Sunroof gear
Post by Scorpio_Mike on Aug 21^st, 2017, 2:35pm

on 08/21/17 at 09:17:46, a900one wrote:

I hope your wrong on that one, its all but out. I may have to drill the screw.
:o

I was thinking that drilling the screw out could be a problem if the brass insert is turning.
If you remove the complete sunroof assembly - I've done it a few times on Sierra's which I think is very similar, not too difficult - just make sure you protect the paintwork at the front of the roof with old blankets or a duvet.
You might be able to lock the brass insert with a drop of superglue - then you might stand a chance of drilling it.

I used copper based grease on the screw threads when I put it all back together.

Title: Re: Sunroof gear
Post by a900one on Aug 27^th, 2017, 5:45pm

Well I tried the freeze spray, did nothing :( So I drilled it out, a 3mm drill first, then a 4mm which made the screw head fall off. I managed to tap it 4mm, the screws are 5mm, as I thought \i may mess it up if I tried to tap it 5mm. The roof is now in with a new motor gear, £7 from ebay, and working again. I was not able to get the problem screw very tight as it went round again, but it seems ok. Now that it inside most of the time, I have just built a 6metre x 8metre garage, I hope it will stay rust free longer.

Title: Re: Sunroof gear
Post by Simmo on Aug 28^th, 2017, 7:02am

Good to hear you got it sorted. Patience is a virtue!! ;D

Title: Re: Sunroof gear
Post by Snoopy on Aug 29^th, 2017, 6:51am

Seldom found in women and NEVER in men , so I am led to understand! ;)

Title: Re: Sunroof gear
Post by Simmo on Aug 29^th, 2017, 8:41am

The saying goes:- "Patience is a virtue, Possess it if you can, Seldom in a woman, Never in a man!" ;D

Title: Re: Sunroof gear
Post by Torbayboy on Aug 29^th, 2017, 11:33am

Patience is a virtue, but desptite being male I do have it. Came from keeping birds and waiting for their young to hatch and fledge

Title: Re: Sunroof gear
Post by a900one on Sep 29^th, 2017, 6:22pm

The motor went past the internal stop, :o and had to be replaced with my last spare. I would not recommend the gear, at £6.99, off ebay.