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(Message started by: Torbayboy on Feb 10th, 2021, 4:33pm)

Title: Fan behind dash?
Post by Torbayboy on Feb 10th, 2021, 4:33pm
OK as you know Ive had/got a few scorpios, but the grey estate has me wonderin'.

Sit in car ignition on but nothing elase (naked motoring whatever next but game for a laff) and we have a fan running I think round about the radio area, any pointers?

Not had the dash out and dont want to, but I think its the only one that does this.

Its july 95 build for N reg cos estate, was there a fan associated with the old style radio (present and working here) with the seperate amplifier also?

Any help appreciated here.

Serious child now eh!! :)

NEVER  :o :o :o :o :o

Title: Re: Fan behind dash?
Post by Simmo on Feb 10th, 2021, 7:06pm
Is it not the air con fan the other side of the bulkhead you can hear? :)

Read this (http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/fanrepair.htm)

You mention an Amplifier?. The details on This page may help. (http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/radioto995.htm) It seems from one of the diagrams that the amplifier is behind the glovebox. There is no mention of a fan nor is one mentioned in any of the connections listed.

Title: Re: Fan behind dash?
Post by Torbayboy on Feb 10th, 2021, 7:25pm
OK so ther is not a secret fan inside the car behind the dash-right?

Heater blower works fine but as the air con is missing the tensioner on the engine I have no aircon, (muppet who bought it to put my lovely cossie engine  in a ford crapi stripped the aircon pump out before I had it), now refitted aircon compressor but not finished yet).

Jest easing my brain into this
Thanks R
::)

Thanks for update will investigate when I thaw out

R
;D :o ::)

Title: Re: Fan behind dash?
Post by Tompion on Feb 11th, 2021, 12:25am
There's a small fan in the module behind the climate control panel, it draws air past the temperature sensor that's behind the little grille between the 2 control knobs.
It's normally hard to hear, you can usually only hear it ignition on, engine off & heater fan off.

If you tear off a small piece of tissue paper & place it over the grille you can get it to be held there until you turn off the ignition :) ::)   -   childish enough http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/YaBBImages/rofl.gif

Title: Re: Fan behind dash?
Post by Torbayboy on Feb 11th, 2021, 1:53pm
Thank you, it seems I have asked a sensible question :o

So the fan is within the aircon module, have a few of these around so will try swapping one out-and report back. once we thaw out.

New wiser me from now on then :-[ methinks :-/

I see scotland went to -22 C last night shall we start a fund for a hot water bottle for Peter??


Still cant use the yellow ones & I agree though

:) ;D :D :( :o ??? :P :D ;)  keep tryin

Title: Re: Fan behind dash?
Post by Tompion on Feb 11th, 2021, 3:01pm
It's the module that the CC panel plugs into, the other end of the ribbon cable you have to remove the dash to get at it. At the back of the CC panel you'll see a rubber cap this seals to the unit behind. It's only a tiny fan, not normally very noisy but I did have one got a bit rattly.

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Title: Re: Fan behind dash?
Post by Torbayboy on Feb 11th, 2021, 7:46pm
Ok so  as I dont wanna take the dash out I will live with it

No more emojis other than the ones i have used before, my head is hurting now so i must lie down
Thanks ???

Title: Re: Fan behind dash?
Post by PJDavis on Feb 11th, 2021, 9:35pm
Minus 14 here just now.   That fan problem you hear, it's not on all the time, but when the dreaded 'detector-thingy' starts to get worn and overheat, aye the thing that's like a 'heat-sink' that plugs into the top of the scuttle with three wires off it, can't remember the name or function!   However, it's VERY expensive from Ford, about £350 (but only about £40 for a Ford Focus one)  and as it starts to get ropey, that fan comes on a lot more.   I got one for a very small price from someone on here, Tomp, or maybe Scorpio Mike, anyway, that fan coming on was the first thing I noticed, then the blower started going haywire, then the heating was unable to be controlled.

Title: Re: Fan behind dash?
Post by Simmo on Feb 12th, 2021, 8:42am
Hi PJ. Fortunately a little warmer down here!
The item you mention is the   Heater Blower Control unit (http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/hbctest.htm)  ;)

In case your description of the location needs clarifying there are pictures Here (http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/fanrepair.htm)
:)

Title: Re: Fan behind dash?
Post by Torbayboy on Feb 12th, 2021, 3:10pm
Hi Again all,
Thanks for the input Peter, I do not have the hub and or bearing (just to clarify, but am saving up for a hot water bottle for you :):):)

Had a problem with r747 eae 2.3 ghia  '97 that only had flat out blower fan. The local sparky fixed it with a bit of solder or playing around with it, has 3 heat type things on it and 2 had corroded.
Perchance this may be the same, cant test the aircon as not fully rebuilt yet (tensioner needed) as Joe from glasgow pulled all the aircon pump bits out before I had it THANK YOU JOE.

Still cold even down here so will look again when it becomes tropical.

Title: Re: Fan behind dash?
Post by Simmo on Feb 12th, 2021, 8:15pm
The item your man fixed is dealt with   Here (http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/acthermalfuse.htm)  It is a thermal fuse fitted to cars without Climate Control. The fan running on full all the time is a classic sign. ;)

Title: Re: Fan behind dash?
Post by PJDavis on Feb 13th, 2021, 4:58pm
Well Roy,   I suppose I must have that new hub and bearing somewhere!

Title: Re: Fan behind dash?
Post by Torbayboy on Feb 14th, 2021, 2:07pm
Perhaps its with the hot water bottle I was gonna send Peter
;D ;D ;D



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