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(Message started by: pedropedro on Oct 4^th, 2006, 6:37pm)

Title: abs codes
Post by pedropedro on Oct 4^th, 2006, 6:37pm

i need to read abs codes but am just unable to do this and need some help

i have alex peppers pwm iso cable but regardless of what boxes are ticked it just says unable to connect to server.....has anyone actaully read abs codes with this software ?

ive emailed him spoken with him but nothing will make it hook up ..reads other enhanced codes pats etc but not abs...maybe doing something really wrong here...but its got me beaten

is there anything else that anyone has used/using that reads abs codes please...thanks

Title: Re: abs codes
Post by Tompion on Oct 4^th, 2006, 8:01pm

Anything here of any use (although it's about using a usb cable):

http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=OBD;action=display;num=1157053906;start=0#0

Title: Re: abs codes
Post by pedropedro on Oct 4^th, 2006, 8:37pm

tks for that link but ive done all that i read that thread a while ago ....ive got all the right ports communicating right baud rates etc

i just need to speak to someone who has actually read the abs codes via this software

tks for response

Title: Re: abs codes
Post by hellblue on Oct 4^th, 2006, 9:30pm

Cant help with the codes but whats the problem???

Title: Re: abs codes
Post by pedropedro on Oct 5^th, 2006, 7:00am

light coming on abs...need to know what code is tripping it

Title: Re: abs codes
Post by Simmo on Oct 5^th, 2006, 7:06am

Have you read THis (http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/abssystem.htm). Isn't the most likely cause a dirty wheel sensor?

Title: Re: abs codes
Post by pedropedro on Oct 5^th, 2006, 7:36am

yes read that...the light comes on maybe every 3rd day stays on an hour clears if restart.....prior to light abs doesnt judder as if sensor is bad.....if i could read codes i could see exactly what was wrong...if there were a bad sensor i could see....sems more logical to find out what is going wrong by looking at codes

Title: Re: abs codes
Post by scorpio_man on Oct 5^th, 2006, 7:48am

hi there

would it not be easier just to give the sensors a clean. :-/

as it's not happing all the time, chances are that there won't be a code stored anyway. ;)

hth
btw, someone on the mailing list did at sometime access the abs codes. can't remember who, though.

Title: Re: abs codes
Post by pedropedro on Oct 5^th, 2006, 8:03am

not easy for me to clean sensors dont have jacks...but take point...i thought if it were a sensor abs would work on that wheel whilst signal was bad ie judder prior to lamp coming up

i get no juddering at all.......just the light on for an hour or so every 3rd day approx

Title: Re: abs codes
Post by scorpio_man on Oct 5^th, 2006, 8:08am

hi there

have you checked/cleaned the big multiplug on the abs module? the one in the engine bay. might be the module it's self. :(

hth

i'll have another look at the obd-2 settings. only have the pwm one, though.

under the option tab... gateway. do you have everything checked that says ISO? and maybe the CAN one as well. have you downloaded ALL the ford files?
can't think of anything else.

Title: Re: abs codes
Post by pedropedro on Oct 5^th, 2006, 8:13am

yes cleaned multi plug...i am sort of resigned to fact it may be the abs unit,,,thats why i want to see codes....it says at base of the post re abs using the pwm iso cable reset codes yourself

i wish i could see the codes....is there some other device avaialble that reads the advanced abs codes??? i am sure mots folk are having this trouble ..when i posted before asking how to do ....lots of people read but no answers

Title: Re: abs codes
Post by Tompion on Oct 5^th, 2006, 10:57pm

Had a quick look through some old posts on the mailing list, not got time at the moment to have a good look, found this from Mark Philbin, but presumably just what you've been told by Alex:
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Go to the Options menu at the top right of the VE screen and click on Gateway then select ISO-9141-2 and KWP Fast, and that's it.

Then when you're connected, go to the CODES tab, then click on Enhanced in the top menu and an Enhanced DTC page appears. Select 'Anti-Lock Brake/Traction Control' in the Server drop-down, then Request the DTCs.
==========================

Dave

Title: Re: abs codes
Post by jonnycab on Oct 6^th, 2006, 12:56am

If you do find out the problem pedro then please post it, as I've got the same prob :)

Title: Re: abs codes
Post by pedropedro on Oct 6^th, 2006, 7:54am

Hi Jonny .....sure, if i find a solution will post it.......I think the software cant communicate with the scorpio ISO protocol properly.......if anyone has ever read the ABS codes can they be good enough to help

Title: Re: abs codes
Post by hellblue on Oct 6^th, 2006, 9:22pm

If you can use a multimeter you can unplug the sensors & measure the resistance side to side they should be about the same (connectors under rear seat & behind front wheels)rear sensors can be removed with car on the ground, 9/10 come out ok & have 2mm s*i* stuck to them,the fronts will be rusted in 11/10 times!! so a good high pressure air blast will be more the order.I know the snap on scanner will read the abs codes as i had to clear mine after a sensor went down,but do clean the sensors befor you start buying random parts or abs blocks if you cant get the codes read

Title: Re: abs codes
Post by Highlander on Oct 11^th, 2006, 10:02pm

Hi, not got it fully worked out yet but i can call up the ABS codes with the following settings and the Trican lead

http://i10.tinypic.com/42ns74x.jpg

Dont connect but go to ENHANCE and request ABS/TC codes then go online when it prompts.. It doesnt connect but click request again and the codes pop up.
I'm sure thats not the proper way but it worked for me.

Title: Re: abs codes
Post by pedropedro on Oct 12^th, 2006, 8:28am

thanks for feedback ...a start at least....however i dont have the tricom lead just the pwm / iso lead ....guess i need get that one now.......thanks for the post appreciated

Title: Re: abs codes
Post by Highlander on Oct 12^th, 2006, 9:59am

Hi, its the trican lead i have, im sure that isnt the correct way to connect but i got a code :)

Still learning with VE, got the basics but just starting to look into the depths of it now :)

Title: Re: abs codes
Post by twinturbo on Oct 12^th, 2006, 10:12am

If you have the two way ISO/PWM lead it should work, I can't see the CAN-BUS having anything to do with it.

The can-bus only realy applies to much later cars than the scorpio.

Not that I have tried myself, so when somone works out the settings it would be gr8 to get tehm posted up here or on the main site.

TT

Title: Re: abs codes
Post by pedropedro on Oct 12^th, 2006, 10:37am

thanks for comments but i have the 2 way iso pwm cable and no matter what settings i make it comes back with "cannot contact server" ....I have asked if anyone out there has actually read abs codes with this software and iso cable but no one has apparently. Realise it should work but the absence of replies when asking if anyone has read codes suggests no one has.

Highlander is the first person to say he has read abs codes with this software to my knowledge anyway...maybe there is something unique about the ford protocol as you cant buy scanners readily that read ford advanced codes..and by some quirk the tricom/trican cable gets around things...??

Title: Re: abs codes
Post by Highlander on Oct 12^th, 2006, 12:18pm

When I ask for the ABS codes it tries to connect but cant although if you request again the codes appear even though it doest seem to connect

Title: Re: abs codes
Post by Dave2302 on Oct 12^th, 2006, 6:20pm

Hi,
I know its a totally different thing but my Snap on Scanner will communicate and read / reset all the systems on my 24v Scorp. I had ABS problems a while back and got a wheel sensor code that kept coming out. Beware of buying a new one, try getting them out first and swapping side to side if you can. I realise most of the time they won't come out but it has got to be worth a try before spending any cash.
Regards Dave

Title: Re: abs codes
Post by pedropedro on Oct 12^th, 2006, 6:55pm

Hi

are you saying your scanner read abs codes....what sort is it?

most of the ones I know only read the engine codes ..in fact i have a autel geniscan 100 and that doesnt read abs codes at least not on the 2.3 ultima

john

Title: Re: abs codes
Post by twinturbo on Oct 12^th, 2006, 7:27pm

Snap On..

TT

Title: Re: abs codes
Post by twinturbo on Oct 12^th, 2006, 7:28pm

It's a bit annoying if VE can't read the codes as it says you can on the scorpio website, part of the reason I went and paid more for the extra lead modes..

TT

Title: Re: abs codes
Post by pedropedro on Oct 12^th, 2006, 8:19pm

Hi

re snap on TT ..
ive tried a search on google but cant find anything ...lots of keyboards but no obd2 reader

do you have more details re manufacturer's name
model # etc

Title: Re: abs codes
Post by twinturbo on Oct 12^th, 2006, 8:52pm

Snap On is one of the biggest tool suppliers to the auto trade in the world..

http://www.snapon.co.uk/

Not cheap but their stuff usualy comes with a unlimited garuntee...

http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item.asp?P65=&tool=diagnostics&item_ID=74430&group_ID=16815&store=uk&dir=catalog

TT