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(Message started by: Paul B on Jan 1^st, 2005, 6:14pm)

Title: Life After The Scorpio
Post by Paul B on Jan 1^st, 2005, 6:14pm

I was wondering... what do you all honestly think about your Scorpio? And are you wondering what you'll own next?

I love mine to bits but I am starting to wonder whether I should spend money on it and keep it for, erm... ever? ::)
Or get rid and get something else. But what? And how much will that cost? :o

What are your thoughts?

Title: Re: Life After The Scorpio
Post by phuturephantasy on Jan 1^st, 2005, 6:51pm

I love my Scorpio 24v but if the Insurance wasn't quite so steep (i.e double what I pay for my Scorpio Cossie) I'd have a Lexus LS400 - probably the most refined engine ever built by man - Simply Stunning how quiet this 4.0 or 4.3 V8 is..

Maybe when I've been driving for a couple of years.

Title: Re: Life After The Scorpio
Post by bertie on Jan 1^st, 2005, 7:05pm

I must admit I've been looking around for a new motor this last month since I bought the wife a new Pug 206cc....we are so hard up North that the wife and I drove 'top less' phaa phaar....hood down last night even though it was -1 outside !!! the 2litre pulls like a train, and handles like a roller skate.

anyway, I've been looking at the Mondeo ST TDCi ...estate...fully loaded with huge 18 inch wheels in machine silver......lovely....6 months old X demonstator..sat nav and all the goodies

but I just cannot justify the new motor as both my Scorps are running perfect, need nothing spending on them and both would have to go to justify the mondy....I've driven the mondy.....lovely.....what a dilemma. 40 odd mpg from the mondy against 25 ish from the scorps.

any thoughts?

Title: Re: Life After The Scorpio
Post by Lee on Jan 1^st, 2005, 7:20pm

I only keep cars between 6 months and 18 months i do about 20,000 miles a year running to and fro seeing kids, got the 12v not cheap to run got 117,000 on clock so i'm thinking of getting one of them kia sedona's ,my mate got 1 he loves it but do i keep the scorpio and get rid of the other halfs rover :-X , i would love to run it into the ground but doing so many miles need something to trust which at the moment it is, but i am in love with the car so i am in the same postion as everyone else don't want to get rid of it ,
Lee
don't i go on ;D

Title: Re: Life After The Scorpio
Post by nadaman on Jan 1^st, 2005, 7:36pm

GET RID OF THE ROVER! ;D ;D

paul

Title: Re: Life After The Scorpio
Post by craig on Jan 1^st, 2005, 8:19pm

paul

i agree with you as much that i really do enjoy the scorpio,and mine is still running as sweet as the day we got it,now it's showing 77,000 miles,and still just as sweet,however,yes we cant run cars forever,and like phuturephantasy,i must admit to having a strong urge for the LS400 lexus,ever since i travelled in one,i was smitten,even though the scorpio is generously equipped,the lexus does leave it standing in all departments (my personal opinion),the only downside is the size of the thing,not a problem for me,but amanda has some reservations ............
but still,when it's time for the scorpio to be "moved on",if i can find a decent one in the "budget",it'll have to be a lexus i'm afraid...........

for what it's worth

craig..

Title: Re: Life After The Scorpio
Post by Paul B on Jan 1^st, 2005, 8:33pm

The problem I face is the same as everyone else I think.
The Scorpio is worth (like it or not) next to nothing :(
The car I'd like is too much money :( :(

If I had the dosh, I'd like to try one of these...
(Audi A8 6.0 Quattro)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/PCBoulton/A86.jpg

Mind you, at 75grand, I don't think I'll get one anytime soon

Title: Re: Life After The Scorpio
Post by Baz on Jan 1^st, 2005, 9:32pm

I am getting a Chrysler Grand Voyager next. And if the missis will let me, we will sell her "shake your ass" crappy renault megane and buy one even sooner!!

I just want something really big with TVs and things (even though I have them in the Scorp!

Baz

Title: Re: Life After The Scorpio
Post by Dave on Jan 1^st, 2005, 10:52pm

Well I had been half-planning the Scorpio for the last four or so years, even before I had a license, and now I have it i'm loving it. But i've planned the next one, and i'm fairly sure about it. Hopefully, anyway. The VW Passat 4.0 W8. It's just the natural step up...

4 speed auto becomes 5 speed auto
3.0 becomes 4.0
V6 becomes W8
Decent quality becomes very high quality.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v467/missterdave/Hosting/PassatW870percent.jpg

I don't fancy footing parts bills though... being realistic, the Scorpio will most likely be the 'best' car i'll ever own. The Scorpio is like a loophole in the system. Why can nineteen-year-olds afford to run them... it just doesn't add up. I'll never have an opportunity like this again... Like Paul said, the Scorpio is worth next to nothing and that's the only way I afforded one.

D

PS. There are too many annoying moving things on my profile, right? I'm going to change it all. Make it a little more.. static. Apologies for any stigmatisms triggered.

Title: Re: Life After The Scorpio
Post by Dave on Jan 1^st, 2005, 11:10pm

When you say Grand Voyager, is it one of these?

http://www.chryslervoyager.com/whs_chrysler_voyager_bluf1902.JPG

Hmmm.. they're pretty swanky. There's something missing though...
D

Title: Re: Life After The Scorpio
Post by nadaman on Jan 1^st, 2005, 11:33pm

on 01/01/05 at 23:10:51, Dave wrote:

they're pretty swanky. There's something missing though...
D

the number plate? ;)

paul

Title: Re: Life After The Scorpio
Post by Baz on Jan 1^st, 2005, 11:38pm

Dave,

yes it is one of those. As you come from Wilmslow, you will more than likely see a lot of them dropping kids off at school. No not the parents, these are driven by the au-pairs!!

Nice, especially if you can get a low miler in black with privacy glass....looks like something from the CIA!!

Title: Re: Life After The Scorpio
Post by Dave on Jan 2^nd, 2005, 11:33am

The numberplate yes! But also the cosworth. And everything that is the Scorpio, would you not miss it?

There is one Voyager in particular that I see around town.. black, blacked out windows, driven by a black guy. So it does look very cool actually. He also wears a phone headset.. think he chauffeurs. A few years ago at school a family came in wanting to raise some cash to buy a big car that would accomodate their disabled son.. they wanted a ramp and everything. In the end they made enough money to buy a new Voyager.. isn't that about £30k? Honestly. There's charity and then there's just... I don't know what.

Chase the dream, Baz. You should be able to catch it pretty easily with the Scorpio. Ho !

D

Title: Re: Life After The Scorpio
Post by phuturephantasy on Jan 2^nd, 2005, 4:42pm

I remember the Chrysler Voyager being on TopGear and it did so badly in the Crash tests that you may as well be driving in a biscuit tin.

http://www.euroncap.com/content/safety_ratings/details.php?id1=5&id2=56

Title: Re: Life After The Scorpio
Post by Badboytunes on Jan 2^nd, 2005, 6:05pm

on 01/01/05 at 19:05:58, bertie wrote:

dont want to put a dampener on ur new motor Bertie but watch out for the roof. It fails to close and is prone to leaking. Peugeot are aware of the problem and rectify it under warranty

Title: Re: Life After The Scorpio
Post by low_tom on Jan 2^nd, 2005, 6:34pm

the 206cc roof fault is down to low power in the battery and the actuators getting slightly out of line. apparently. drove a 4.2 A8 last chrimbo,nice car,but not £62k nice i'm afraid. Also drove E320 CDi merc and that rocked. Aside from not having a V8 it was just as capable as the audi and nicer inside. And £32K. Lexus LS400's are awesome tho,would like to lowrider one of them too. SO smooth. Most fun production car driven,MG ZT-T V8. so much fun and well comfy inside. Very good for surprising boy racers too ;D

Title: Re: Life After The Scorpio
Post by Dave on Jan 2^nd, 2005, 10:30pm

:o I held off a Z4 today!!! They must have been in the wrong gear.

Title: Re: Life After The Scorpio
Post by Baz on Jan 2^nd, 2005, 11:33pm

The voyager tested was a 1999 model. If you look at the NCap test results for most pre 2000 model cars they would be as bad and it is as good as a 2003 Kia Sedona. I have no doubt that the Scorpio would be either a 1 or 2 star rated car and with its slopey front would propel a pedestrian at least 30 yards!!

The car manufacturers only woke up to safety after 2000. My missus drives a 2003 Megane shake your ass thingy (ugly is safe!!) which has a 5 star rating and was driven into another car at 40 mph by a bloke on top gear without any special safety gear. He walked away OK. I would of course take this into account (as did my wife) before I bought any other new car. I had brand new cars for 12 years but the Scorpio was a passion and will be hard to replace but bearing in mind mine is probably one of the last and with 63k on the clock, will not last forever so who knows, I may go for another Rover 75!!

Title: Re: Life After The Scorpio
Post by Dave on Jan 3^rd, 2005, 3:56pm

Mmm 75s are nice, for Rover. That's all ye can say about them.

I've found a good replacement for the Scorpio for those of us who struggle with cash.

http://www.autotudos.hu/kep_het_kep_03_10_kia_magentis_nagy.jpg

It's the Kia Magentis. Kind of ugly, kind of big, nice and low down compared to Mondeos etc. The top spec is a 2.5 litre V6 automatic with leather seats, air con, electric windows and a CD player. You could pick a 2001 basic model up for 4k. The V6 0-60 is 8.5 seconds. Road noise is supposed to be pretty loud on the motorway.

All in all, the Kia version of a BMW. Much lower quality.. but it's basically all there. And I think they're not too shabby. Hmm!

Dave

Title: Re: Life After The Scorpio
Post by Dave on Jan 3^rd, 2005, 4:00pm

In fact just read this.

Front-wheel-drive Magentis introduced with one engine and two trim levels: LX and SE. The LX is available with a five-speed manual gearbox or Tiptronic sequential auto, while the SE is available with Tiptronic only. Both models come with ABS with EBD, front airbags, electric windows, air conditioning, a CD player, alarm, immobiliser, alloy wheels, remote central locking, electric mirrors, 60/40 split folding rear seat, height adjustable driver’s seat, tilt adjustable steering wheel and ISOFIX child seat anchors. The SE gains side airbags, traction control, leather upholstery, climate control, heated door mirrors, cruise control, electrically adjustable front seats, lumber adjustment for the driver’s seat and leather-covered steering wheel and gear knob. Facelift in early 2003 gives Magentis a new-look front and improved equipment.

Title: Re: Life After The Scorpio
Post by nadaman on Jan 3^rd, 2005, 4:54pm

in my opinion that magentis looks like a big yank with that aggressive looking grille and chrysler neon shape.

paul

Title: Re: Life After The Scorpio
Post by waders on Jan 3^rd, 2005, 4:57pm

on 01/03/05 at 16:00:27, Dave wrote:

Front-wheel-drive Magentis introduced with one...................

What ever I get next MUST be rear wheel drive ;)

8) ::) 8) ::) 8)

Title: Re: Life After The Scorpio
Post by Baz on Jan 3^rd, 2005, 5:30pm

personally I would check the NCAP rating of any Kia because even the 2003 Sedona only comes in with a 2 star rating....but then again what is the chance of having a crash like they test for anyway??

Baz

Title: Re: Life After The Scorpio
Post by Lee on Jan 3^rd, 2005, 6:04pm

i'm with waders got to be rear wheel drive ,if not might go back to landrover and get a disco, would love another rangerover but can't afford it, but the sedona keeps coming up so i don't know ???

Title: Re: Life After The Scorpio
Post by Dave on Jan 3^rd, 2005, 6:22pm

Agreed, it's a shame they're not rear-wheel drive. And yeah if they perform well in the NCAP the only reason will be their size. They're not too worried about crumple zones in malaysia. I don't mind so much though, my previous two cars each had a nine point crash death rating or something. They were very bad in crashes, anyway. And every time I had to stop quickly, one wheel would lock and the other wouldn't brake at all. Had so many near misses.

Anyway.

D

Title: Re: Life After The Scorpio
Post by waders on Jan 3^rd, 2005, 8:34pm

Mmmmm,

http://users.chariot.net.au/~murcod/Images/ST200%20side.JPG

8) :o 8) :o 8)

Title: Re: Life After The Scorpio
Post by George on Jan 3^rd, 2005, 9:06pm

i think it will have to be a harley davidson f150 pickup for me i think ::) 8)

Title: Re: Life After The Scorpio
Post by mr._floppy on Jan 3^rd, 2005, 11:51pm

That Chrysler sporty thingy that Clarkson was throwing around a beach on Top Gear the other night looks the Bees Pyjamas. I'll have one of them please.

Failing that, Rover 75 is nice , maybe Audi A6 ( Rear wheel drive ? ).

But Ford UK just don't make anything I fancy these days. I'll just have to import a yank model.

Title: Re: Life After The Scorpio
Post by nadaman on Jan 4^th, 2005, 12:29am

on 01/03/05 at 23:51:32, mr._floppy wrote:

I'll just have to import a yank model.

traitor!!!!!!

paul

Title: Re: Life After The Scorpio
Post by phuturephantasy on Jan 4^th, 2005, 12:47am

I hate to admit it but I do agree with Mr Floppy about the yank bruiser cruiser, that chrysler just looks like such a badboy I'd have to get one, I know they said it was the worst out of the bunch but it just looks so menacing and 'ard even at a standstill.

Bring it on....

http://www.autointell.net/nao_companies/daimlerchrysler/chrysler/chrysler-300c/chrysler-300c-04.htm

Title: Re: Life After The Scorpio
Post by Robby on Jan 4^th, 2005, 12:01pm

I'm looking in totally the other direction from the scorp next. Its annoying that I'll be paying 4 or 5 times as much for a car with less kit, but I won't miss 25mpg.

So up next, either a smart roadster or a diesel peugeuot 407.

Title: Re: Life After The Scorpio
Post by Badboytunes on Jan 4^th, 2005, 4:47pm

i test drove the new diesel 407. it was a 136Hdi se auto.

lovely to drive with lots of kit. not so much rear headroom for adults and the build quality isnt that good. Ive gone for the saab 9-3 Tid150 vector sport. rool on march 1st......

Title: Re: Life After The Scorpio
Post by Danny_R on Jan 4^th, 2005, 9:01pm

Hey Baz,

Not a bad choice mate. It seems to be the American number one people carrier here in Florida. The smaller cheaper varients are badged as DODGE. The Grand model has absolutely EVERYTHING one could possibly want. Power sliding doors, Fridge, Tv's, DVD etc etc..

I'm sticking to my sedans though! oops sorry SALOONS ;D Going down my local government auction in a few weeks to see if i can get a police spec Crown Vic.

I wasnt really a big fan of SUV's until i came to the US. I fancy the V10 Ford Excursion. To call it huge is an understatement ;D

Still, the scorp remains back in the UK, stood in the cold with no one caring for her :'( anyone got a spare 3 grand laying around to help me get here out here ::)

Regards

Danny R

Title: Re: Life After The Scorpio
Post by nick on Jan 6^th, 2005, 12:08pm

ALREET danny mate,

MMMMM Life after the scorpio, dove my sister in laws audi rs6, what a machine, but out of my price range.

If my numbers come up, im straight over to this guy, theres a nice metro I fancy.

http://www.carclassic.com/html/RACING1.htm

Heres hoping

Nic

Title: Re: Life After The Scorpio
Post by Dave on Jan 6^th, 2005, 5:13pm

Woa, is it a Metro, is it a plane...

And for those of us who rather fancy the 300C: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=18301&item=4516215519&rd=1

D