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Title: AAARRRRRRRR...................................... Post by waders on Jan 26th, 2005, 11:16am AAARRRRRRRRR...................................................... Gutted. I only left her for 20mins, no note, no witness ??? :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( http://tinypic.com/1gk4d3 http://tinypic.com/1gk4di http://tinypic.com/1gk4e1 http://tinypic.com/1gk4kw £%$**%$*&^* is all I can say! Scraped from start of wing, both doors and all the way to the tail lights. Mirror gone, both door handles and the rear arch is ripped. Going to sulk for a while now.......... |
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Title: Re: AAARRRRRRRR................................... Post by wumpster on Jan 26th, 2005, 12:07pm what a bummer mate looks like a white van man job by how high up the marks are had it done to me a couple of years ago not nice :'( :'( |
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Title: Re: AAARRRRRRRR................................... Post by waders on Jan 26th, 2005, 12:31pm AAARRRRRRRRRR................................ |
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Title: Re: AAARRRRRRRR................................... Post by daven on Jan 26th, 2005, 1:08pm Bad luck or what! >:( Dustcarts are good at doing that round by me! Hope the driver who did it has a bad year! Daven |
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Title: Re: AAARRRRRRRR................................... Post by low_tom on Jan 26th, 2005, 1:20pm blimey dude thats harsh. it wasn't somewhere you frequent often and could keep an eye out for paint marks is it? >:( |
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Title: Re: AAARRRRRRRR................................... Post by waders on Jan 26th, 2005, 1:24pm on 01/26/05 at 13:08:00, daven wrote:
Yep, bin day and recycling day here today. I'm truly gutted, the rear arch looks bad, real bad. The front wing is also badly scored and out of shape. And the real twist is I wasn't well yesterday and I got Ellie to move the car round the corner 'cos it was the last car in a row and I was paranoid about someone hitting it. Laugh, I'm certainly not >:( |
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Title: Re: AAARRRRRRRR................................... Post by waders on Jan 26th, 2005, 1:26pm on 01/26/05 at 13:20:57, low_tom wrote:
The big stick awaits Tom, it awaits!! |
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Title: Re: AAARRRRRRRR................................... Post by Dave on Jan 26th, 2005, 1:47pm OH MY GOD >:( :-[ :'( Waders, much sympathy my friend :o Don't know what to say :( :( |
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Title: Re: AAARRRRRRRR................................... Post by Dave on Jan 26th, 2005, 1:49pm Actually, could you get on to the council and find out which van(s) were round that day then check them for damage? Swines.... :( |
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Title: Re: AAARRRRRRRR................................... Post by waders on Jan 26th, 2005, 2:08pm Dave, I have this feeling that without a witness, even if I found a lorry with damage to it (and my paint), it would be a vain attempt. Looks like I'll repair it myself AGAIN....though I think the rear arch or front wing will ever be the same :'( :( :( :( :( :( |
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Title: Re: AAARRRRRRRR................................... Post by Dave Boulton on Jan 26th, 2005, 2:17pm Sorry to see this Barry, especially after all the work you put in when the chavs had the front off it :'( Seriously, if you could find the bin lorry that did it, well, the driver did leave the scene of an accident didn't he? Mind you, these days, it's probably some contract collection service operated by the lowest bidder - and I bet they give a t*ss what their drivers do :-/ Chin up mate. I'm sure you'll get it back in good order. Dave |
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Title: Re: AAARRRRRRRR................................... Post by waders on Jan 26th, 2005, 2:48pm Oh yes she'll be put as right as can be done, within reason. Responce from phone call to Barnet refuse dpt, If you have a Reg number report it to the police...and no, you can't come to look at our lorry's for paimt... Next call will be a body shop me thinks. I suppose at least It's perfectly drivable once I replace the mirror glass. (although I'll have to open the door from inside to let Ellie in) Anyone got any spare door handles :-/ |
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Title: Re: AAARRRRRRRR................................... Post by LiverpaulH on Jan 26th, 2005, 2:55pm Waders Bad luck mate, but it is worth checking with the council if the bin men could be culprits. I had my 1983 Crappy hit when parked over night a few years back on a main road. My sister saw the car the next morning and asked what I'd driven into the night before! Not amused. The car was parked next to a bus stop and had damage to the right front wing and the bumper. It was very likely that a bus did the damage. I wrote immediately to the bus company (Travel WM) who basically said no way. So I phoned and wrote again asking for full details of the buses on the route overnight and for them all to be checked. They said no accidents had been reported but I persisted and persisted and eventually they sent an assessor out to check the damage on my car and that it was possible. They eventually paid up in full what I asked for stating payment was in full and final settlement with no admittance of liability. It took 3months and about 10 letters and numerous phone calls, but eventually result. I'll try and dig out my correspondence tonight so I can assist with wording if you need. All I can say is it can't hurt to try. Hope this helps Paul |
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Title: Re: AAARRRRRRRR................................... Post by waders on Jan 26th, 2005, 3:21pm on 01/26/05 at 14:55:16, LiverpaulH wrote:
Time is the one thing I've got as the car drives fine. I may yet find a witness that "saw" "a" bin lorry hit my car, so I'd be very interseted to see your paperwork and I think I'm going to the local small claims court for some forms tomorrow. I realy think an independent witness would swing all in my favor. Paul, please Email me or send a PM if you find your paperwork, thanks Barry. Edit; 2 of my neighbours saw our BIN LORRY struggling to get out of the side road I was parked in (narrow road cars park both sides) but can't say they saw it hit the car!! Getting closer I feel............. |
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Title: Re: AAARRRRRRRR................................... Post by LiverpaulH on Jan 26th, 2005, 3:33pm Barry Will do. Paul |
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Title: Re: AAARRRRRRRR................................... Post by daven on Jan 26th, 2005, 3:51pm Waders, If you need one - I have a brand new wing, unpainted (just black primer) - yours for £30 (cost) if you can collect from SE London!? Cheers Daven |
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Title: Re: AAARRRRRRRR................................... Post by Vulcan on Jan 26th, 2005, 4:05pm Waders, did you call the Police at all? It will actually be a criminal offence, leaving the scene of an accident. If you pass on all the info that you have they will do the investigating, the response of Barnet refuse is immaterial, regardless of whether you have a reg no, the Police will have the powers to search their yard for suspect lorries. All you need is the evidence that your car was parked in the area on collection day and the witness to say they saw a lorry having probs. Hope you get it sorted mate.... good luck. George |
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Title: Re: AAARRRRRRRR................................... Post by waders on Jan 26th, 2005, 4:07pm Wow Daven, Definitely, a new wing is the only real option I can see. The groove could be filled but getting anything like back to shape I think is asking a bit much! I'll PM you and make arrangements. THANKS, THANKS, THANKS. (I nearly smilled then) Barry. |
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Title: Re: AAARRRRRRRR................................... Post by waders on Jan 26th, 2005, 4:30pm on 01/26/05 at 16:05:36, Vulcan wrote:
Yes, I phoned the police (before I found witnesses) They asked if anyone was hurt or if I had a Reg number or description for whatever hit me. The answer to all these was no at that time. They told me to claim from MY insurance as thats what it's for!! (I Think I only got to speak to a desk clerk) I will Go to the police station in the morning but I'll not be putting much hope on them investagating. Down to me to be detective I think!! |
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Title: Re: AAARRRRRRRR................................... Post by Lee on Jan 26th, 2005, 5:17pm Barry sorry mate i'm gutted for you but what goes around comes around he will get his, it's a shame that you won't know about it, if you need a handle i'll see if the is one at work but like i said before they are few and far apart, |
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Title: Re: AAARRRRRRRR................................... Post by mr._floppy on Jan 26th, 2005, 5:23pm Bad luck mate, the most expensive type of accident, no structural damage , but every panel dented or scored and very difficult to repair successfully . Check for any shop , pub or Police CCTV cameras that may have caught the incident. |
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Title: Re: AAARRRRRRRR................................... Post by waders on Jan 26th, 2005, 5:57pm Thanks to you all for your obvious genuine concern. It has eased the sadness muchly. I just went to pick up Ellie from work and she (the car) still drives lovely, alot of the scrapes T-cutted off the doors and wings but a new front wing is in order , two s/hand doors and I recon I'll always have some dents left at the rear wing, she WILL be repaired. Mr floppy, It was a residential road, no hope of CCTV. A sad but not out Waders. |
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Title: Re: AAARRRRRRRR................................... Post by Simmo on Jan 26th, 2005, 8:37pm Waders, The Council may not let you on to their property to inspect but they sure as hell can't stop you standing outside and watching the lorries come out of the depot. What you may be able to do is have a sample of the paint analysed as that should identify the vehicle by type,manufacture etc and certainly if you eventually have a 'suspect' vehicle it would be excellent if not conclusive evidence of contact between the two vehicles. If the vehicle does a regular collection how about being there 'same time same place' next week. Also a letter pushed through a few doors in the road may find you the eyewitness you're looking for. If you do find a possible culprit don't forget you'll need to get,officially, the paint sample you think is from your car. Good luck. Simmo |
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Title: Re: AAARRRRRRRR................................... Post by Paul B on Jan 26th, 2005, 8:47pm Your subject title says it all mate :o >:( :'( I'm gutted for you, just as everyone else seems to be. |
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Title: Re: AAARRRRRRRR................................... Post by desperate on Jan 26th, 2005, 9:28pm barry that is awfull luck mate. I hope them witnesses come good for ya bud. |
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Title: Re: AAARRRRRRRR................................... Post by bertie on Jan 26th, 2005, 11:02pm Waders my deepest sympathy goes out to you...I would be devastated so I can only imagine how you feel PM me with your address and I will post 2 door handles and the mirror glass to you free of charge...door handles are in black so will need to be blown in when you paint your car... it's a shame I do not live closer to you, I live in NE England cos I would have painted the side for you Simon |
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Title: Re: AAARRRRRRRR................................... Post by waders on Jan 28th, 2005, 11:00am I spoke to the local refuse dept today, got a name and address to write to. Once I told them I have two independent witnesses (thats all I said, no detail) the attitude seemed to change!! So, two quotes and a long letter will be prepaired this weekend, popped into the post monday morn and I'll see what happens. :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ |
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Title: Re: AAARRRRRRRR................................... Post by Just Call Me Captain on Jan 28th, 2005, 2:58pm Sorry to see that WADERS - I know exactly how you feel I hope you can find a solution and get things put right Captain |
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Title: Re: AAARRRRRRRR................................... Post by JohnJ on Jan 28th, 2005, 3:41pm sorry to read that, but from now on you should keep all you proceedings, i.e. letters and corespondance of what you are doing private as you never know whos reads this, but I do hope you get your money as this is both terrible and unfair how some mindless driver does not respect someone elses tressured property, he probley came in to close and said sod it I'll be gone in a jiffy! Aaaararaarararararrrrrrrr. |
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Title: Re: AAARRRRRRRR................................... Post by waders on Jan 28th, 2005, 7:03pm on 01/28/05 at 14:58:54, Just Call Me Captain wrote:
Michael, I think I'm the one that knows how you felt now!! (any luck with a Scorp yet?) Johnj, advice taken! I will post the result in time though. Waders. |
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Title: Re: AAARRRRRRRR................................... Post by Just Call Me Captain on Jan 28th, 2005, 7:56pm Hi Waders - Thanks for your reply No luck with a Scorp - I was looking everywhere You call up - it was either sold or did not meet specific criteria I was looking for Example - 32000 on the clock - superb Called up - a printing error - should have been 132000 Bit of a difference :-/ :-/ :-/ Even the cars on our FOR SALE had been sold a long time ago One at the auction - last week - 45,000 R Plate 2.3 ULTIMA - yippee :D :D :D When I started it - Engine was rough - no MOT :-[ :-[ Paintwork - uneven - had a lot of work To top it all whist engine was running - I was looking under the bonnet - car locked itself - after pneumatic bag was used to pry open door - no locks were working - sun roof problem - steering pump leaking etc etc etc It went for GBP 2100 - I did not even bother to bid After all of this frustration - searching etc I have had to ( TEMPORARILY ) split from the ranks - I needed a car Got an Auto Vauxhall Vestra 2.5i CDX - Leather - all of the toys - Plus sat nav - loop phone I have not given up my search though - but I was getting so fed up :-/ - travelling miles - and when you get there :-[ the SCORPIO was not even half as good as my old one that got torched Michael ( Captain ) |
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Title: Re: AAARRRRRRRR................................... Post by waders on Jan 28th, 2005, 9:22pm ::) ::)I'll keep them peeled ::) ::) 50,000 or less? not easy to find but then there's a mk3 with 46,000 on eb** at the moment, one owner (the sellers grandad) and does look mint. Rocking horse springs to mind :o There's one out there somewhere ;) Fight the good fight! 8) ;D 8) ;D 8) |
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Title: Re: AAARRRRRRRR................................... Post by Vulcan on Jan 29th, 2005, 12:54am Michael, I'm still keeping an eye out for a good 2.0 or 2.3 up here but nothing worth having has surfaced recently. I'll be in touch if I see anything... There's an M reg 2.0 est in my local dealer for 10 months now... all cloth and no toys... aside from that it looks nice and clean with no major bodywork problems. Nowhere near what you had though.. I'll keep looking... do you like diesels? George |
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Title: Re: AAARRRRRRRR................................... Post by Just Call Me Captain on Jan 29th, 2005, 2:37pm Hi George I am looking for ( IDEALLY ) 2.3 ULTIMA (LT) Auto - Petrol Between 50 - 80K on an R or S Plate Thanks for looking - Michael |
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Title: Re: AAARRRRRRRR................................... Post by OddJob on Jan 29th, 2005, 4:38pm Just seen! Unbeliveable!! So sorry to see!! How can I help?? |
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Title: Re: AAARRRRRRRR................................... Post by waders on Jan 29th, 2005, 5:10pm on 01/29/05 at 16:38:13, OddJob wrote:
;DYou just did ;) waders. |
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Title: Re: AAARRRRRRRR................................... Post by nadaman on Jan 30th, 2005, 11:11am on 01/29/05 at 14:37:57, Just Call Me Captain wrote:
my scorp meets all that criteria exept the mileage, i my be selling it soon as i can't get used to it, may go back to a mk2 granny. paul |
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Title: Re: AAARRRRRRRR................................... Post by Baz on Jan 30th, 2005, 11:50am Can't get used to it?? May go back to a MK 2 Granny?? That's like saying you can't get used to money and are going back to bartering or something!! |
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Title: Re: AAARRRRRRRR................................... Post by Just Call Me Captain on Jan 30th, 2005, 1:47pm Hi NADAMAN - Please tell me more about your scorpio, plate ,owners /mileage etc etc also - any pics to my email address - I have sent you PM - plus an indication of what price you want and its approximate availability Thanks - Michael ( Captain ) |
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Title: Re: AAARRRRRRRR................................... Post by Richard on Jan 30th, 2005, 8:13pm Ouch........Sorry to see your car in such a bad way Waders, Hope you get it all sorted out one way or another. Best Regards Richard |
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Title: Re: AAARRRRRRRR................................... Post by nadaman on Jan 31st, 2005, 3:27am hi captain have sent you pm about my car. paul (nadaman) |
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Title: Re: AAARRRRRRRR................................... Post by nadaman on Jan 31st, 2005, 3:31am captain did you ever find out who torched your car? paul (nadaman) |
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Title: Re: AAARRRRRRRR................................... Post by Eddie on Feb 2nd, 2005, 6:07pm Just come across this thread,GUTTED! What a state to see a Scorpio in,especially someones pride and joy!. Reading through, likely culprit=council dusty bin wagon. Looking at those rear load wagons they do have a long overhang at the rear that swings out quite threateningly and by the looks of it at the right height too. Get your tape measure out waders and see if the marks correspond to the height of the dangly bits at the back of a dustcart.!! eddie |
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Title: Re: AAARRRRRRRR................................... Post by Simmo on Feb 6th, 2005, 6:55pm Any update on your search for the offending vehicle Waders? Just hope you're having some luck. Regards, Simmo |
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Title: Re: AAARRRRRRRR................................... Post by waders on Feb 6th, 2005, 7:09pm Hi Simmo, The big fat envelope is in the post tomorrow, containing photo's, copies of advice taken, repair estimates, a witness statement and a very long letter!! Both estimates are over a grand ::) the waiting game now starts............................. 8) ;D 8) ;D 8) |
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Title: Re: AAARRRRRRRR................................... Post by Badboytunes on Feb 6th, 2005, 8:04pm give them sum stick M8 >:( >:( >:( >:( |
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Title: Re: AAARRRRRRRR................................... Post by Rod on Feb 7th, 2005, 7:12pm Really sorry to read of your problems Waders. Let's hope that your refuse contractors wheelie have a conscience. But just in case they don't, I would suggest that you write a short note to the Local Authoity addressed to the Contracts Manager simply explaining that you are putting him on notice that you have a claim against the contractors. Give only very brief details (Their bin wagon hit my car and caused £1,000 damage.) If he is doing his job properly, he should then contact the contractors. In my experience, this form of 'scissor' attack does tend to focus the attention of people being claimed against. If the contractors don't settle, you can then go back at them via the Council because you have already told them, in writing, about your problem. I hope that this helps. Rod |
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