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(Message started by: ferretmobile on Mar 4^th, 2005, 11:38am)

Title: facelift grill
Post by ferretmobile on Mar 4^th, 2005, 11:38am

Hi shipmates, can you fit a facelift grill and trim on to a non face lift?
Any ideas would be welcome. My existing non facelift grill is a bit stone chipped & I would like to improve its nose ;)
Ferret

Title: Re: facelift grill
Post by Richard on Mar 4^th, 2005, 2:18pm

Yes, but you have to have all the bits that go with it.
Others that have the facelift grill will be able to help but the bonnet is the same so it is a yes.

Title: Re: facelift grill
Post by craig on Mar 4^th, 2005, 2:47pm

richard..
although the bonnet is the same,the fixing holes for the grill are not,so what you will need is the bracket that ford sell,that you bolt the grill onto,then bolt the bracket with the grill on,onto the car....
price about 6 mts or so ago was about £13.00

HTH

CRAIG..

Title: Re: facelift grill
Post by Baz on Mar 4^th, 2005, 6:52pm

SHIPMATES??

Oh no not another one!!

Baz

Title: Re: facelift grill
Post by Paul B on Mar 4^th, 2005, 9:30pm

Oh please god, NO !!! :o

Title: Re: facelift grill
Post by Captain / Vice Admiral on Mar 4^th, 2005, 11:44pm

Another Crew Member - SHIPMATE

See Below -

Part of Speech: noun
Definition: shipmate
Synonyms: able-bodied seaman, barnacle bill, barrelman, bluejacket, boatman, cadet, circumnavigator, deck hand, frogman, gob, hearty, jack, jack tar, lascar, leatherneck, limey, marine, mariner, mate, middy, midshipman, navigator, navy man, old salt, pilot, pirate, sailorman, salt, sea dog, Seabee, seafarer, seaman, scorpio friend on forum, shellback, shipmate, swab, swabber, swabbie, tar, tarpaulin, water dog, windjammer, yachtie, yachtsman

Captain

Title: Re: facelift grill
Post by Baz on Mar 5^th, 2005, 12:39am

Oh....deck hand!!

Title: Re: facelift grill
Post by Captain / Vice Admiral on Mar 5^th, 2005, 12:45am

No Petty Officer or Boatswain or Lamptrimmer or Lookout

Captain

Title: Re: facelift grill
Post by Richard on Mar 5^th, 2005, 1:33am

on 03/04/05 at 14:47:51, craig wrote:

richard..
although the bonnet is the same,the fixing holes for the grill are not,so what you will need is the bracket that ford sell

CRAIG..

Craig.....
Like i said you need all the bits, ;) ;D

Title: Re: facelift grill
Post by waders on Mar 5^th, 2005, 5:13pm

on 03/04/05 at 23:44:06, Captain / Vice Admiral wrote:

Thats from the Oxford Dictionary then :P

8) ;D 8) ;D 8)

Title: Re: facelift grill
Post by OddJob on Mar 6^th, 2005, 1:45pm

Time to walk the plank me thinks me harty LOL ;D ;D

Title: Re: facelift grill
Post by ferretmobile on Mar 7^th, 2005, 8:55am

Arrr, be the frying dutchman...arrrr :D

Title: Re: facelift grill
Post by Nick_H on Mar 7^th, 2005, 2:29pm

Hi,

I'm curious what this 'bracket' actually does - if the bonnets are the same, then aren't the mounting holes in the same places? (Doesn't the grille/surround just bolt on with (6?) bolts?)

I'm not saying anyone's wrong, I'd just like to know more, as I want to make the same mod one day...

Cheers,
Nick H.
(No nautical references at all...)

Title: Re: facelift grill
Post by Baz on Mar 7^th, 2005, 5:47pm

I'm selling one on ebay at the moment but the mounting holes on the bonnet all appear to be the same as those on the non facelift. The opening bracket changed I believe but not the holes in the bonnet, otherwise, why are there so many old pre-facelifts driving round with the new and improved facelift ones?

Title: Re: facelift grill
Post by Nick_H on Mar 7^th, 2005, 5:59pm

Interesting, Baz...

My new Tourmallard Green Ultima could do with one of those...

[BTW: What the flip is a "Tourmallard" - who at Ford has the job of making up these names?! I'd like to read their job description... ;D ]

Title: Re: facelift grill
Post by Ultima_Bloke on Mar 7^th, 2005, 7:04pm

Hi all!! I've tried to fit a couple of facelift grilles to non facelift bonnets now, and the only fixings that line up are the ones on the ends, but not the middle ones! If you take a close look at a facelift grille fitted to a early scorp, you will find the middle of the grille is loose! (gibbio has got this problem if i remember rite) :)

Title: Re: facelift grill
Post by Baz on Mar 7^th, 2005, 7:23pm

Well I must bow to your superior knowledge on this one then as I thought they did line up.

Baz

Title: Re: facelift grill
Post by Vulcan on Mar 7^th, 2005, 11:44pm

Oddly enough I have fitted a pre facelift to my facelift car and it seemed to line up perfectly, at least I don't remember any problems. I did it in the summer...see pic below...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v389/VulcanScorpio/DCP04050.jpg

The extra holes in the bars are there to pull it back into line as the two end screws where missing from the grille I had, but if they had been there they would have slotted through the holes perfectly.

George

Title: Re: facelift grill
Post by craig on Mar 8^th, 2005, 4:08pm

i think there might be some confusion here.......

IF you buy/acquire/obtain a second hand grill from a facelift,and want to put it on your pre-facelift,there would not be a problem because the fixing bracket would already be on the grill in the first place.......

IF HOWEVER you buy one NEW from fords or equilavent,you WILL need the fixing bracket,because the holes will not line up,(well the 2 middle holes anyway),now dont ask me why this is because i dont know the answer to that,all i do know is this,when i bought my facelift grill NEW,that is all you get the grill,the badge,chrome surround and mounting bracket are all "extra",and to fit the grill to the car,you have to have the mounting bracket.................

hope this clears up the confusion...

Title: Re: facelift grill
Post by Nick_H on Mar 8^th, 2005, 5:22pm

Thanks, Craig.

That's certainly helpful to know.

Cheers,
Nick H.

Title: Re: facelift grill
Post by Nick_H on Mar 12^th, 2005, 4:04pm

Update for anyone interested...

After buying a facelift grille, I found that the old one had more nuts'n'bolts holding it on than the facelift one.

Facelift one has 1 at each end, plus the two bracket bars - the old one had the same, plus four other nuts'n'bolts beneath the upper, widest part of the grille.

It fitted fine and it doesn't seem to be too loose or wobbly - maybe Ford decided they could save money by using 4 fewer nuts...

N_H

Title: Re: facelift grill
Post by craig on Mar 12^th, 2005, 4:20pm

well knock me down :o :o :o
the one i bought about 2 years ago now has the 1 at each end,2 in the middle (which are again on the bracket which in turn are held to the grill by 4 bolts) and another 2 on the stabiliser bars...

all gets me confued

Title: Re: facelift grill
Post by Paul B on Mar 12^th, 2005, 5:01pm

The one I bought a few months ago is stilll in the garage in its box. Been meaning to get it painted.
Never have offered it up to the car, but I think I might do now just to see which 'version' I ended up with :-/