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(Message started by: monghad on Apr 15^th, 2006, 9:03pm)

Title: Road Tax
Post by monghad on Apr 15^th, 2006, 9:03pm

Will there be any increase of Road Tax fund for the bigger Scorps.

Title: Re: Road Tax
Post by meg on Apr 15^th, 2006, 9:11pm

new tax band is for larger engines is for vehicles bought new after march 23 /2006

Title: Re: Road Tax
Post by monghad on Apr 15^th, 2006, 10:34pm

Thankyou for clearing that up Meg. My ignorance has been enlightened. :)

Title: Re: Road Tax
Post by andyjones on Apr 15^th, 2006, 11:20pm

it will go up. my 1988 seirra cosworth went up to 96.25 for 6 months. i taxed it on the 1st of april. it was 93.00 :-/

Title: Re: Road Tax
Post by jonnycab on Apr 15^th, 2006, 11:42pm

Get this right...my 1998 2.3 Scorpio road tax went up by a couple of quid (£96 & a bit) for six months, but my 2001 2.0 Mondeo (which I just sold) went up by a wopping £10 (£104 & a bit) for six months. The reason being that any car registered after April 2001 has a CO2 rating on the reg document. Any car registered before that date only has the engine size printed on the reg document.
So obviously Gordon Brown has consulted his lawyers & they've said "sorry Gordon, you can't tax drivers more unless you know how much they are contributing to the greenhouse effect'.
Therefore, you can now buy an old oil burner that does 15mpg & pay less road tax than a brand new, fuel efficient, family size car......huh

Title: Re: Road Tax
Post by andyjones on Apr 15^th, 2006, 11:54pm

well jonny, you've just cheered me up no end. my other car is a 2.5 v6 land rover freelander 2001. wonder how much this is going to go up to when i tax it in may >:(

Title: Re: Road Tax
Post by jonnycab on Apr 16^th, 2006, 12:13am

Sorry Andy...If I were the chancellor I wouldn't charge you any road tax, just as long as you stuck to the mud tracks. ;D

Title: Re: Road Tax
Post by jonnycab on Apr 16^th, 2006, 12:15am

On a brighter note (I hope), i've got a 1976 MK1 3.0L Granny, & that should be cheaper to tax than a brand new Mondeo. :)

Title: Re: Road Tax
Post by sector-9 on Apr 17^th, 2006, 12:33am

Personally I'd do away with road tax and just have tax on fuel - that way anybody that pollutes (be it car, bike, lawnmower or generator) pays and it's in everybody's interest to cut fuel usage. Also people wouldn't need to spend money needlessly on classic cars which may only come out twice a year.

Darren

Title: Re: Road Tax
Post by JohnJ on Apr 17^th, 2006, 8:56am

On the Feul is a brilliant Idea, but gordan will loose a fortune from Northern Ireland as most people here buy the fuel in Southern Ireland. ;)

Title: Re: Road Tax
Post by lonesomecajun on Apr 17^th, 2006, 9:20am

Adding a penny to a litre of fuel and scrapping road tax altogether would be a great idea but it'll never happen.

We'd end up paying more (Government should be happy) but wouldn't notice it as much (I'd be happy) and it would save a lot of aggro in the Post Office (me happy) etc

However millions upon millions of people would lose their jobs and that simply wouldn't do - do you realise how many penpushers and seatshiners it takes to deal with each tax form - 34 - once you've been to the Post Office the details then get sent back and forth amongst various Govt offices where people sit and drink coffee dreaming of their retirement before it is actually entered into some computer system that takes 1 person about 1 minute (about 306 Fully Paid Man Hours - paid for by the Tax payer)

Title: Re: Road Tax
Post by monghad on Apr 17^th, 2006, 9:28am

Putting tax on fuel is good for the average punter, but how would this affect the haulage firms who use ample quantities, and cannot govern the amount of miles that they do.
The increase that they face on fuel tax would work it's way down the line and end up on our laps through the produce that they deliver. :-/

Title: Re: Road Tax
Post by sector-9 on Apr 17^th, 2006, 10:30am

Indeed, it would be harder for those who do mega mileages. I was trying to think of a fair way that makes everyone pay their share, and encourages them to drive economically and efficient vehicles. The alternative would be astronomical road tax but nowt on fuel (which old Gord ain't going to agree to); but that'd price poorer motorists like myself off the road (all has to be paid in one go) and mean that those with generators, lawnmowers, etc. get away scot free - despite their engines being much less efficient and more polluting (size for size) than our cars. Generators don't have cats, or EGR/evap systems; neither do they have to pass an emissions test...

Darren

Title: Re: Road Tax
Post by jonnycab on Apr 19^th, 2006, 1:05am

Doing away with road tax & adding a penny on fuel (it would probably be closer to an extra 10p) is probably the way to go. Even though my Scorpio is a Taxi, I would welcome this as I feel we should all pay for how much we contribute to pollution levels. Besides, what ever I spend on fuel is tax deductable anyway.
What really gauls me is the fact that I have to pay the full road tax on my 1976 3.0 MK1 Granada. It is only driven on nice days & last year I only did 600 miles in it.

Title: Re: Road Tax
Post by monghad on Apr 21^st, 2006, 7:58pm

Some haulage firms register their lorries abroad to avoid road tax, is this true, or have I picked up only half the story. :)

Title: Re: Road Tax
Post by jonnycab on Apr 23^rd, 2006, 12:02am

I know alot of ships are registered abroad. Could this be for similar Tax reasons?