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Title: Careful chaps these ain't facelift headlights!! Post by Baz on Oct 17th, 2006, 9:03pm Just in case anyone was thinking of having a bid, they are sprayed with a tint spray by the looks and will be technically illegal to put on the car! Baz http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=015&item=250039431452&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1 |
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Title: Re: Careful chaps these ain't facelift headlights! Post by taliban on Oct 17th, 2006, 9:32pm yeah, i notice he doesnt use the term facelift anywhere, and does describe them as tinted. as you say would probably be illegal, not to mention poor beam quality... |
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Title: Re: Careful chaps these ain't facelift headlights! Post by twinturbo on Oct 17th, 2006, 11:14pm I am half way though the PROPER conversion... looking good so far. TT |
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Title: Re: Careful chaps these ain't facelift headlights! Post by TiberiuS on Oct 18th, 2006, 11:33am They look bloody awful anyway ;) I don't get all this fuss over the facelift look, sure it looks nice but so does the chrome grille and untinted lamps on the pre '98, esp. in tourmallard, state blue or ash... Mine is a standard late '96, not sure I'd want to mod it :-/ Just a thought, are the front indicator/fog cluster on the facelift the same as the pre? Saw a '98 Ultima for sale the other night and the bumper has a tighter curve around the corners yet the lamps look the same??? Regards, Bruce :) |
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Title: Re: Careful chaps these ain't facelift headlights! Post by Butterfingers on Oct 18th, 2006, 12:29pm I agree. I don't really give a toss about faceliftedness. I am quite happy with the chrome, it gives a nice shine when cleaned up. I guess the chrome touch may have come from the States where it is much more popular than here. |
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Title: Re: Careful chaps these ain't facelift headlights! Post by jonnycab on Oct 18th, 2006, 12:37pm "Just a thought, are the front indicator/fog cluster on the facelift the same as the pre?" The cluster is the same but fogs on my facelift are blackened like the headlamps, but indicators look the same. :) |
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Title: Re: Careful chaps these ain't facelift headlights! Post by TiberiuS on Oct 18th, 2006, 3:51pm Aye Jonny, the latter fogs aren't tinted, the reflector tarnishes as with the older ones :) Had a cracked fog when I bought my car, bought a new one from FMD, (£50 :o), great but now I have one nice shiny silver one and one dull black one. Bothered the hell out of me until I realised the new one was tarnishing too, something had to be done... Got both stripped down and resprayed the reflectors silver, now they both match and don't tarnish either ;) I have some photos if anyone is interested ;) Regards, Bruce. |
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Title: Re: Careful chaps these ain't facelift headlights! Post by jonnycab on Oct 18th, 2006, 4:14pm The reflector is shiny silver but the surround that is directly behing the lens is defo black as in the headlamp. |
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Title: Re: Careful chaps these ain't facelift headlights! Post by TiberiuS on Oct 18th, 2006, 7:16pm What I mean: New vs. old surrounds, drove me mad having one silver and one dull black, newer one is tarnishing on the pic. http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l89/TiberiuS1250/Scorpio/Foglamp0.jpg And the finished result: http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l89/TiberiuS1250/Scorpio/Foglamp1.jpg Really bugged me, car looks much better with them both silver. Bruce :). |
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Title: Re: Careful chaps these ain't facelift headlights! Post by Kjetil S on Oct 18th, 2006, 7:22pm Looks nice. Any tips on taking the glass off? |
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Title: Re: Careful chaps these ain't facelift headlights! Post by taliban on Oct 18th, 2006, 7:26pm i prefer the facelift style lamps, will do mine soon... |
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Title: Re: Careful chaps these ain't facelift headlights! Post by taliban on Oct 18th, 2006, 7:29pm might colour code them with the body work |
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Title: Re: Careful chaps these ain't facelift headlights! Post by Baz on Oct 18th, 2006, 8:52pm Bruce, the facelift bumpers are different both in shape and size. They are not as bulbous as the earlier ones and do infact make the car slightly longer by a few mm. As for the fog lights, there are two different types, one with the chrome background and one with the black. I have a set of each, both brand new and still in the boxes so it isn't due to fading or tarnishing. The darker ones were fitted mainly to the facelift cars but not exclusively by the looks of things Baz |
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Title: Re: Careful chaps these ain't facelift headlights! Post by TiberiuS on Oct 18th, 2006, 9:35pm Thanks for making that clear Baz, mine were silver but the new one did start to tarnish like the old one (you can see it in the top picture), can't be through the heat of the bulb because I've never used the fogs. All done anyway, they suit the car better the colour they are now :) The facelift bumpers are sleeker looking, take some of the goofiness out of the front end, I do like my chrome grille though ;) Tips on getting them apart: remove the flange on the plastic case and slowly lever the glass out and cut the mastic as you go, not easy :-/. Sand 'em down, prime and paint and get some clear glazing silicone to stick them back together. Regards, Bruce. |
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Title: Re: Careful chaps these ain't facelift headlights! Post by jonnycab on Oct 19th, 2006, 1:39am I prefer the facelift front, but also prefer the chrome grill of the old ones. Thinking about doing a pre-facelift job on it ;D |
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Title: Re: Careful chaps these ain't facelift headlights! Post by LiverpaulH on Oct 19th, 2006, 9:23am On the saloons esp the darker colours I personally much prefer the clean lines of the facelift version. As for the fronts I'm happy with either but prefer the chrome grill of the prefacelift and the bumper of the post facelift! Paul 8) |
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Title: Re: Careful chaps these ain't facelift headlights! Post by Highlander on Oct 19th, 2006, 3:15pm Same here Paul, i can decide which i like best, there are a lot of modded combinations out there but i seem to like them all :) I think it depends on the colour too, some lights/bumpers.grill look better depending on the colours. Baz's Silver saloon looks great, as does AndyB's silver estate but I do like a nice black facelift, they look completely different cars though :) |
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Title: Re: Careful chaps these ain't facelift headlights! Post by TiberiuS on Oct 19th, 2006, 4:20pm [] I like 'em all, would love to pick up another one if it wasn't for all the problems I had with mine. The shape of the Scorpio has grown on me greatly over the years, no idea what people find so ugly about them when you look at some of the newer cars on the roads today, some of the varied comments I got over the 3D model on the RSC forum weren't too bad either. My opinion is just that I'm happy to keep mine original, thought more than once about fitting leather to mine but the Ultima raven velour trim is very nice :) The new colours and wheels suit the later cars nicely, not that I'd refuse if someone donated a '94 2.9 though :) Regards, Bruce. |
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Title: Re: Careful chaps these ain't facelift headlights! Post by taliban on Oct 19th, 2006, 5:25pm can i have your facelift rear lights then? |
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Title: Re: Careful chaps these ain't facelift headlights! Post by jonnycab on Oct 20th, 2006, 4:08am Tiberious wrote...."The new colours and wheels suit the later cars nicely" My facelift is Mid Atlantic Blue. Not seen this colour on the old Scorp.....looks fantastic when polished. :) Was at an American car show recently, & when we went back to the Scorp there were two guys hanging around it. ...."Got a Scorp me-self mate, but never seen one in this colour"..... Didn't know how to reply....so just said.."yeah.....it's blue" ;D |
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Title: Re: Careful chaps these ain't facelift headlights! Post by Highlander on Oct 20th, 2006, 8:52am I got an estate bumper off AndyB recently which seems to be in the same colour as yours Jonny but never seen another one |
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