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(Message started by: cossie_al on Oct 24^th, 2006, 9:56pm)

Title: Modded fog lamps (lexus style?)
Post by cossie_al on Oct 24^th, 2006, 9:56pm

I know not all of you will like them but really they are now driving lamps due to th 15, 10mm led's at 125000mcd 8)
going to do something similar with the indicators next
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g65/cossieal/DSC00040.jpg

Title: Re: Modded fog lamps (lexus style?)
Post by Octavian_P on Oct 24^th, 2006, 10:00pm

Nice ideea, my fog lamps are in not so good condition, the glass is "brushed" by 10 years of "heavy duty roads" and the internal mirror has black spots on it ....they look kind of dull and don't make much light, i'm afarid of asking mr. ford how much will be a new pair.... :P

Title: Re: Modded fog lamps (lexus style?)
Post by Kjetil S on Oct 24^th, 2006, 10:02pm

Get a set of new old ones on ebay ;)

Title: Re: Modded fog lamps (lexus style?)
Post by Octavian_P on Oct 24^th, 2006, 10:20pm

a bit off-topic

Hard chances to buy off e-bay living in romania, and did i forgot to mention, no paypal....., it's like living in stoneage sometimes ;D. But for now no more expenses i'm having other things to fix first ...like hmm.... a clutch, some tyres, ac-regass, spark plug leads, HT coils....and the list never stops ;)

Title: Re: Modded fog lamps (lexus style?)
Post by Highlander on Oct 24^th, 2006, 10:24pm

Nice Al :)

Any more pics on how you did it?

Title: Re: Modded fog lamps (lexus style?)
Post by Kjetil S on Oct 24^th, 2006, 10:25pm

still a bit off-topic, but, shouldn't be a problem buying from ebay.co.uk, most sellers ship worldwide (or atleast Europe). No paypal?

on-topic: I think I like the looks on those fog lamps, would be nice to see them in action :)

Title: Re: Modded fog lamps (lexus style?)
Post by Octavian_P on Oct 24^th, 2006, 10:28pm

Full on topic ;D

We want to see them in full action 8)

Title: Re: Modded fog lamps (lexus style?)
Post by cossie_al on Oct 24^th, 2006, 10:29pm

Okay guys,
Give me 10 minutes I will go find a battery etc ;D

Title: Re: Modded fog lamps (lexus style?)
Post by cossie_al on Oct 24^th, 2006, 10:43pm

Here you go, the first is the beam inside my garage the door is about eight strides from the lamp.
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g65/cossieal/beam.jpg
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g65/cossieal/lamp.jpg

Title: Re: Modded fog lamps (lexus style?)
Post by cossie_al on Oct 24^th, 2006, 10:45pm

Highlander,
I will take pics along the way when I do the other side and post them if you are interested ;)

Title: Re: Modded fog lamps (lexus style?)
Post by Kjetil S on Oct 24^th, 2006, 10:47pm

Very nice!

Remember to update with more pictures when you have them on the car :D

Title: Re: Modded fog lamps (lexus style?)
Post by cossie_al on Oct 24^th, 2006, 10:52pm

Thanks Kjetil S,
These are a spair set so I can fit standard ones at mot time ;)
I will be experimenting with clear perspex lenses and led's on the indicators.
When I finish this side I will take step by step photos of the modifications on the other side and of course a final photo of the finished article on the car :D

Title: Re: Modded fog lamps (lexus style?)
Post by Octavian_P on Oct 24^th, 2006, 10:54pm

NICE :o , only one thing makes me think, what dispersion angle do the leds have...looking a bit narow

Title: Re: Modded fog lamps (lexus style?)
Post by Matt on Oct 24^th, 2006, 10:55pm

hey

i have to say i rather like them, look modern, but i see a legal issue, on the normal bulb lit fogs, there is a deflector on there to stop the light beam blinding oncomming drivers, i know there led's but i have some 3w luxon star led (not on the car, yet :P)and there blinding, so you would need to direct their out put down a bit.

for now im gonna follow baz and do a HID conversion, then get the headlights aligned again hehe

matt

Title: Re: Modded fog lamps (lexus style?)
Post by cossie_al on Oct 24^th, 2006, 10:58pm

I agree Mat I think I may wire them as extra driving lamps and perhaps just use a portion say five led's as fog lamps

Title: Re: Modded fog lamps (lexus style?)
Post by cossie_al on Oct 24^th, 2006, 11:04pm

Octavian_P the angle on these is supposed to be 25 degrees but I reckon its narrower than that. However, I did buy them with a driving lamp project in mind and wanted as much light thrown forward as possible.

Title: Re: Modded fog lamps (lexus style?)
Post by Spannerdemon on Oct 25^th, 2006, 7:04am

Is there any way of getting round the internal reflective mirror problem?
My N/S one could do with some TLC. :)

Title: Re: Modded fog lamps (lexus style?)
Post by cossie_al on Oct 25^th, 2006, 8:23pm

on 10/25/06 at 07:04:35, Spannerdemon wrote:

Is there any way of getting round the internal reflective mirror problem?
My N/S one could do with some TLC. :)

Not sure if you can get them refinished never heard of it.
I wouldn't care the reflectors on these ones are pretty good.
I did say in parts wanted that I wasnt bothered about the reflector condition but I ended up with a good pair.
If only I had known before I started the mod that there were a number of people neading replacements.

Title: Re: Modded fog lamps (lexus style?)
Post by wickedteen on Oct 28^th, 2006, 7:27pm

any chance you making us all some, cheers

Title: Re: Modded fog lamps (lexus style?)
Post by Baz on Oct 28^th, 2006, 10:28pm

I have a few spare rear facelift units which I was going to install LED's into but as yet have not got round to it. Might be something for the winter!!

Baz

Title: Re: Modded fog lamps (lexus style?)
Post by cossie_al on Oct 28^th, 2006, 11:10pm

on 10/28/06 at 19:27:10, wickedteen wrote:

any chance you making us all some, cheers

Okay mate just let me get mine sorted then I will work out a price or I can just post instructions on here and you can do it for yourself ;D

Title: Re: Modded fog lamps (lexus style?)
Post by cossie_al on Oct 28^th, 2006, 11:14pm

Baz,
I want to experiment on the rears when I eventualy finish the front ones.
I do like the idea of clear lenses over the led's so until anything lights up all you have is nice shiney bling lights ;D

Title: Re: Modded fog lamps (lexus style?)
Post by Kjetil S on Oct 28^th, 2006, 11:28pm

Ooooh.. sounds nice! (but illegal :-/)

Title: Re: Modded fog lamps (lexus style?)
Post by cossie_al on Oct 28^th, 2006, 11:38pm

on 10/28/06 at 23:28:18, Kjetil S wrote:

Ooooh.. sounds nice! (but illegal :-/)

Why if lexus lights pass mot's? ??? ???
???

Title: Re: Modded fog lamps (lexus style?)
Post by Kjetil S on Oct 29^th, 2006, 12:49am

Atleast up here, everything originally on the car is legal. Modifying the lights in any way automatically makes them illegal, even if they are working perfectly within specs.

You _could_ ofcourse take the route of having them approved, but it is never worth the hassle.

Edit: Aftermarket parts are usually pre-approved (often by Tüv?), and are therefore legal (most of the time)

Title: Re: Modded fog lamps (lexus style?)
Post by cossie_al on Oct 29^th, 2006, 12:57am

As I have said previosly at mot time I would refit the standard equipment.
And as for the rest of the year........................ Well lets just see ;)

Title: Re: Modded fog lamps (lexus style?)
Post by Kjetil S on Oct 29^th, 2006, 1:00am

Title: Re: Modded fog lamps (lexus style?)
Post by Matt on Oct 29^th, 2006, 10:21am

if find this place very good, and have ordered many leds off him for various stuff. he's now got 5w 12v luxon star leds :o :o :o

http://www.ultraleds.co.uk/images/ultraleds.gif (http://www.ultraleds.co.uk)
click the pic

Title: Re: Modded fog lamps (lexus style?)
Post by Kjetil S on Oct 29^th, 2006, 11:25am

Oh, and while we're on the subject of LEDs, will these (http://www.ultraleds.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=44&products_id=836) fit behind the clock?

Title: Re: Modded fog lamps (lexus style?)
Post by cossie_al on Oct 29^th, 2006, 12:36pm

Not had chance to do anything with the clock or instrument bulbs yet so not sure if they will fit or not.
There was a thread a few weaks back about changing the clock bulbs it was more about how to get the clock out but one of the guys is sure to know.

Title: Re: Modded fog lamps (lexus style?)
Post by Kjetil S on Oct 29^th, 2006, 12:48pm

They look identical to me, but don't know if there are different sizes. Want to be sure before I order some :)

Title: Re: Modded fog lamps (lexus style?)
Post by taliban on Oct 29^th, 2006, 4:38pm

' Why if lexus lights pass mot's? '

simply because lexus have put their lights through the required tests and will have the eec stamp on them, homemade ones will not have.
this is why a lot of kit car companies use other makes of light clusters, it saves designing their own and paying for the tests to make them pass regulations.
its perfectly legal to have clear lenses as long as they have the 'stamp'.

Title: Re: Modded fog lamps (lexus style?)
Post by Baz on Nov 1^st, 2006, 12:18am

Matt,

these are what the HID lamps look like when lit..... a lot brighter than the standard ones (all be it a little difficult to focus on them.... but you get the idea!)

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y147/Bazunitec/DSCF0394Small-1.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y147/Bazunitec/DSCF0391Small.jpg

Title: Re: Modded fog lamps (lexus style?)
Post by Matt on Nov 1^st, 2006, 8:27pm

Why ford didnt fit a HID system as standard to this car is beond me, and now ive seen that, im off to ebay, i still have the link to the guy u got yours from lol!

Title: Re: Modded fog lamps (lexus style?)
Post by Baz on Nov 2^nd, 2006, 8:04am

I'll take some pics of the fittings later

Baz

Title: Re: Modded fog lamps (lexus style?)
Post by - Mike - on Nov 2^nd, 2006, 5:31pm

The question now Baz is are spare bulbs readily available and do they cost the earth. ??? I know xenon bulbs can cost at least £100 each to replace :o

Title: Re: Modded fog lamps (lexus style?)
Post by Matt on Nov 2^nd, 2006, 6:32pm

you can get them and yes they are expensive (ive seen them between £20 - £40 each). on the plus side, they last a lot longer, as they run at cooler temps.

Title: Re: Modded fog lamps (lexus style?)
Post by Baz on Nov 2^nd, 2006, 7:01pm

Mike.... they are available and the answer to the question is..... who cares? It's only money!!

Seriously, I don't know. The blub about the xenon lamps is that they tend to be lasting the life of the car under normal use so may not need any

Baz

Title: Re: Modded fog lamps (lexus style?)
Post by Big_Green_Tank on Nov 3^rd, 2006, 2:08pm

Baz
So what type are your new headlights?
And do you still have the shop link from Ebay or where-ever?
Pleas

Bob

Title: Re: Modded fog lamps (lexus style?)
Post by Baz on Nov 3^rd, 2006, 3:49pm

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130038466526&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ebay.co.uk%3A80%2Fsearch%2Fsearch.dll%3Ffrom%3DR40%26satitle%3D130038466526%26fvi%3D1

This is the actual set I have. Good quality and easy to fit. I will post some pics later These are TUV approved as well. Just for further information, my car passed its MOT two weeks or so ago with no problems regarding the lamps or the LED side lamps I have installed either!

Baz

Title: Re: Modded fog lamps (lexus style?)
Post by Matt on Nov 3^rd, 2006, 5:12pm

Big_Green_Tank,

or anybody intrested in doing a HID conversion, make sure your headlight alignment is correct, these lights are a lot brighter and can really dazzal oncomming traffic

ive got me a set on there way woo!

matt :)

Title: Re: Modded fog lamps (lexus style?)
Post by TiberiuS on Nov 4^th, 2006, 11:07pm

Driving lamps would be of more use than fogs, something to throw the dipped beam further. Been thinking myself about changing the beam pattern on the fogs, not sure if this can be done though; standard setup on the Scorpio is good but something more for the unlit roads this time of year would be ideal.

Thinking myself about a xenon conversion, any ideas on the LEDs for the sidelights though Baz?

Regards, Bruce.

Title: Re: Modded fog lamps (lexus style?)
Post by Baz on Nov 5^th, 2006, 1:35am

I already have the LED bulbs in the side lights. They look pretty good. Only need the ones for the main beam now for the bi-xenon look!

BAz

Title: Re: Modded fog lamps (lexus style?)
Post by Matt on Nov 5^th, 2006, 6:01pm

baz, you could buy another HID kit and have all the daylight at night driving you could need... :P

with modding the fogs into driving lamps, couldnt you remove the deflector in the fog unit then fit a lower wattage bulb?

Title: Re: Modded fog lamps (lexus style?)
Post by TiberiuS on Nov 6^th, 2006, 9:02pm

on 11/05/06 at 18:01:43, Matt wrote:

with modding the fogs into driving lamps, couldnt you remove the deflector in the fog unit then fit a lower wattage bulb?

Mabye but then you just remove the dip pattern and the lower wattage bulb wouldn't give the same light. Thinking more of a way of changing the dispersion to improve the main headlamps without main beam, switching the fogs on with the headlamps doesn't make much difference. Perhaps brighter main lamps are the way to go.

Title: Re: Modded fog lamps (lexus style?)
Post by Matt on Nov 6^th, 2006, 9:29pm

here a thought, and i should of mentioned it before

when i painted the oxidised metal ring that retains the headlight lense, i noticed that the lense it's self was filthy and i mean filthy. i managed to get a paper towl down behind the lense and give it a good clean, and ofcorse made the headlights brighter, maybe it's worth popping off the glass cover part and try cleaning the lense before you buy new bulbs and stuff...

Title: Re: Modded fog lamps (lexus style?)
Post by Kjetil S on Nov 6^th, 2006, 9:41pm

If you get the glass itself off on both sides (for instance if you're planning on darkening the chrome finish), a tip would be to run the lenses through the dishwasher ;)

DO NOT DO THIS WITH THE CHROME FINISH ATTACHED TO THE LENSES!

Title: Re: Modded fog lamps (lexus style?)
Post by Matt on Nov 6^th, 2006, 9:43pm

i dont mean the inner of the glass bit (either chrome or black) i mean the small round lense that is infront of the dip beam,

it's not removable.. i tried with a scorpio i found in a scrappy first ;)

Title: Re: Modded fog lamps (lexus style?)
Post by Kjetil S on Nov 6^th, 2006, 9:46pm

Ah ok, but my tip still doeswork though ;)

Title: Re: Modded fog lamps (lexus style?)
Post by Matt on Nov 11^th, 2006, 2:44pm

Fitted the HID kit, bit of a b****r fitting the balasts, but got there in the end, i'll take some pics when i gets dark!

Title: Re: Modded fog lamps (lexus style?)
Post by Baz on Nov 11^th, 2006, 7:35pm

I just cable tied the ballasts close to the rear of the head lights. I was a bit daunted by having to drill a 25mm hole in the rear of the plastic cover but it does still come off ok as I found when having to fit new side light bulbs a few weeks ago!

Did you get the same ones I got Matt?

Baz

Title: Re: Modded fog lamps (lexus style?)
Post by Matt on Nov 12^th, 2006, 12:24pm

Hey all

Baz, got the exact same kit as you, as for the ballasts, i removed the headlights and fitted them under the headlight unit using a self tapper, so i dont loose any more of the very limited engine compartment space.

http://i15.tinypic.com/4hicm5d.jpg

i know what you mean with drilling the hole though, still end result more then makes up for a bit of butchering hehe

Matt ;D

Title: Re: Modded fog lamps (lexus style?)
Post by TiberiuS on Nov 12^th, 2006, 12:28pm

Matt, don't get me wrong mate but unless the ballasts are sealed you'll get fireworks when it rains, that ledge behind the headlamp gets soaked in water.

Regards, Bruce.

Title: Re: Modded fog lamps (lexus style?)
Post by Matt on Nov 12^th, 2006, 12:29pm

there sealed ;)

matt :)

Title: Re: Modded fog lamps (lexus style?)
Post by cossieguy on Nov 13^th, 2006, 11:43am

on 11/06/06 at 21:29:23, Matt wrote:

[] Matt, just did my inner lenses they were whitish, cleaned them up and they're now brill, headlights much brighter a great tip for other owners.
Guy.

Title: Re: Modded fog lamps (lexus style?)
Post by Matt on Nov 13^th, 2006, 3:16pm

glad to hear it, ;D

it's supprising just how dirty they can get in whats ment to be a sealed unit

matt :)