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(Message started by: TiberiuS on Jan 1^st, 2008, 6:25pm)

Title: Anybody remember the Racer Scorpio?
Post by TiberiuS on Jan 1^st, 2008, 6:25pm

Well, after months of being completely Scorpio-less, something had to be done. There's now another two versions of the Racer Scorpio released ::)

Stock 2.5 TD estate, you can grab it from the first post here. (http://forum.rscnet.org/showthread.php?t=306810&page=2)

Fantasy version, 'Cosworth RS6', you can grab it from the first post here. (http://forum.rscnet.org/showthread.php?t=304349&page=2)

Finally you'll need Racer, you need to download '0.5.3 b8' from the downloads section on the left. You can grab it from here. (http://www.racer.nl/)

You need a fairly good PC to run Racer (there's no minimum requirements, just try it and see how it runs). No spyware or other stuff to worry about, it's all free :)

The performance version I made ages ago from photos sent to me by Richard MS and Octavian P, it's a fantasy performance version of the 24v, custom colours and polished 18" 7 spoke alloys, supercharged with 312bhp and limited 155mph top speed. The TD is still a 'beta', it needs some finishing on the rear end. But it drives nice.

Physics are pretty good, I got all the camber/toe/engine settings from the manuals on the site. I could still do with rear suspension (toe/camber) settings too and some wheelrates. But other than that, they're accurate. The estate will be finished and released as a final version soon, I'm also on the tail end of finishing the stock 24v saloon.

So if you've ever wanted to chuck a TD estate around the ring or storm a supercharged cossie around an oval at 165mph, now's your chance ;D

Happy new year.

Regards, Bruce :)

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l89/TiberiuS1250/rs62.jpg

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l89/TiberiuS1250/rs6_blur.jpg

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l89/TiberiuS1250/rs6-12.jpg

Title: Re: Anybody remember the Racer Scorpio?
Post by Highlander on Jan 1^st, 2008, 9:01pm

Hi Bruce ;D

Yep we have it installed on every pc in the house ;D

My son Andrew is a regular forum member and downoaded you RS6 the day you posted it :)

Very nice, keep up the good work..

P.s. just to make it more realistic can you make them cough splutter and die completely now and again?? ;) or how about some damp fusebox special effects? :)

your diesel had a 3.61 diff? stock ratio is 3.36 does that make a difference?

Title: Re: Anybody remember the Racer Scorpio?
Post by RichardMS on Jan 1^st, 2008, 9:55pm

Looking good as ever Bruce :), I will look at downloading racer when i'm next off work 8)

Title: Re: Anybody remember the Racer Scorpio?
Post by TiberiuS on Jan 1^st, 2008, 11:49pm

Hi guys, nice to be back :)

on 01/01/08 at 21:01:26, Highlander wrote:

your diesel had a 3.61 diff? stock ratio is 3.36 does that make a difference?

I know, I couldn't remember for the life of me which it was, one reference on the site says 3.61 but the axle manual says 3.36. Yup it makes a difference, makes it a d**n sight quicker as you should know from cutting up all those 2 litres ;)

Some extra data would be really, really nice. Like toe/camber for the rear suspension (only front listed onsite), also some wheel and damper rates would be great. Oh, and if anyone has individual axle weights, so I can work out the weight distribution more accurately..

Also the guy who made me the sounds for the RS did a good job but I think he lost the reality of what a road car sounds like...even a tuned one. I tried to explain that an ally engine doesn't sound quite that throaty..but hell, they sound good ;D

So some sounds for a 24v would be very, very welcome ;)

All nerdy stuff to do with figures, I've just been told how to work out the spring and damper rates too ;D

Regards, Bruce :)

Title: Re: Anybody remember the Racer Scorpio?
Post by Al_Sithi on Jan 2^nd, 2008, 8:43pm

It's definitely realistic- the Scorpio TD broke down while going down the straight at Brands Hatch!

Title: Re: Anybody remember the Racer Scorpio?
Post by Ultima2300 on Jan 2^nd, 2008, 10:13pm

Is it faster than Postman Pats van??? ;D

Geoff

Title: Re: Anybody remember the Racer Scorpio?
Post by Al_Sithi on Jan 2^nd, 2008, 11:01pm

I set up a race with 5 other scorpios, and mine suddenly wouldn't do more than 45mph, then down the straight it slowed to nothing and stalled.

Actually the exact same thing happened to me for real in my wife's nissan micra- that turned out to be the maf!

Title: Re: Anybody remember the Racer Scorpio?
Post by TiberiuS on Jan 3^rd, 2008, 4:46pm

on 01/02/08 at 22:13:21, Ultima2300 wrote:

Is it faster than Postman Pats van??? ;D

Geoff

Ahh yes, who could forget Postman Pat's van. Had a blast of a time chucking that thing around the Nurburgring, couldn't get it below 13 minutes though. The derv does a 11:30 if I don't crash ::)

This 'bug' where you can't overtake the computer controlled (ai) cars was in beta 7, I thought he'd corrected it in beta 8. It can be sorted though, you have to change something in the racer.ini if I remember rightly. You also need a config file to make the computer cars go faster than 30mph, if you press CTRL+F6 and drive a lap, then press CTRL+F7 to save it should do the trick ;)

Racer does have some bugs but even so, it's free and still a bloody lot of fun ;D

Also, does anyone know what rpm the injectors shut off on the stock 24v? I've got 6250rpm max rpm but surely it'd go higher before the ECU cut the fuel? I think it's somewhere like 6450rpm on the Zetec. Also, does anyone know what sort of 0-60 to expect from a stock 24v kitted with standard diff but an MT75 trans?

At the mo it's on MT75 gear ratios, standard 3.64 diff, 1638kg kerbweight, 24v torque curve from the site with 286nm/207bhp and I'm getting 0-60 around 8 seconds, 1/4 mile in about 16. The site says 8.5 sec 0-60 for the auto, 16.8 quarter mile. Just seems a bit slow for a manual box, expected to gain at least a second over the auto :-/

Cheers guys ;)

Title: Re: Anybody remember the Racer Scorpio?
Post by Dave on Jan 4^th, 2008, 3:39pm

Ye gads Bruce :o

I saw this post yesterday, and have barely left the computer since, I have just been playing with Racer :o

This is amazing! Thanks for posting about it! Am LOVING the td estate on the Nurburgring }{ }{ }{

That Polish stage with some 24v action is amazing 8)

Well done mate :D

Title: Re: Anybody remember the Racer Scorpio?
Post by TiberiuS on Jan 11^th, 2008, 8:40pm

Hi guys, final version of the stock 24v saloon out. You can grab it here. (http://forum.rscnet.org/showthread.php?p=3669620#post3669620)

Let me know what you think.

Regards, Bruce :)

Title: Re: Anybody remember the Racer Scorpio?
Post by Scorpioen84 on Jan 13^th, 2008, 11:29am

I had my front and rear chamber/toe checked befor x-mas, but i dont know if its of any help since mine has H&R springs, and are a 2.0l....

Rear Axel Target data
chamber -0°26
chamber max diff 1°15'
toe +0°05'
toe max diff ---
total toe +0°11'

Title: Re: Anybody remember the Racer Scorpio?
Post by Big_Green_Tank on Jan 14^th, 2008, 6:14pm

I guess you guys don't get out much!!!!

Bob

Title: Re: Anybody remember the Racer Scorpio?
Post by TiberiuS on Jan 15^th, 2008, 12:54am

on 01/14/08 at 18:14:00, Big_Green_Tank wrote:

I guess you guys don't get out much!!!!

Bob

Yeah, sad life, eh? :-/

Title: Re: Anybody remember the Racer Scorpio?
Post by Highlander on Jan 15^th, 2008, 9:51am

Its great ;D

Bruce is there any way to change the number plate?

Title: Re: Anybody remember the Racer Scorpio?
Post by scruffygyt on Jan 15^th, 2008, 11:16am

i feel like im missing out on somthing here, not being up to scratch with computers(turning it on and typing in web address is about it) could any one tell me how i can access this so i can find out what all the fuss is about,

Title: Re: Anybody remember the Racer Scorpio?
Post by Big_Green_Tank on Jan 15^th, 2008, 11:25am

[quote author=scruffygyt could any one tell me how i can access this so i can find out what all the fuss is about, [/quote]

It's only a "Daft" boy racer computer game.
You are better off in the Pub at night, you can meet real people.

Bob

Title: Re: Anybody remember the Racer Scorpio?
Post by scruffygyt on Jan 15^th, 2008, 11:45am

the more people i meet the more i like my dog!!!!!

Title: Re: Anybody remember the Racer Scorpio?
Post by Highlander on Jan 15^th, 2008, 2:37pm

on 01/15/08 at 11:45:59, scruffygyt wrote:

the more people i meet the more i like my dog!!!!!

LMAO yes agreed ;D

I enjoy playing "Daft" games and I and I'm sure many others would view sitting in the Pub as the "Daft" option although you are free do do as you choose.. as are we! ;)

Title: Re: Anybody remember the Racer Scorpio?
Post by peteHull on Jan 15^th, 2008, 3:24pm

on 01/15/08 at 14:37:48, Highlander wrote:

LMAO yes agreed ;D

I enjoy playing "Daft" games and I and I'm sure many other would view sitting in the Pub as the "Daft" option although you are free do do as you choose as are we! ;)

Cat's Cradle anyone?

;D ;D

Title: Re: Anybody remember the Racer Scorpio?
Post by Big_Green_Tank on Jan 15^th, 2008, 5:09pm

But you meet real people at the Pub.
Can't remember when I met a real person in a computer program!

Title: Re: Anybody remember the Racer Scorpio?
Post by Ultima2300 on Jan 15^th, 2008, 7:54pm

I think quite a few of us on here are real :o

Pleased to meetcha ;)

Geoff

Title: Re: Anybody remember the Racer Scorpio?
Post by scruffygyt on Jan 15^th, 2008, 9:34pm

think i"ll take the dog for a walk!

Title: Re: Anybody remember the Racer Scorpio?
Post by TiberiuS on Jan 16^th, 2008, 2:34am

on 01/15/08 at 09:51:36, Highlander wrote:

Its great ;D

Bruce is there any way to change the number plate?

LOL. How about www.fordscorpio.com/XJ, that's a nice plate... No, you don't want to see the XJ I'm making ;D ::)

Just put the body.tga into a graphics program like PSP, you can change the plate easy then ;)

What plate were you thinking of? Give me a body colour and I can do both for you ::)

Title: Re: Anybody remember the Racer Scorpio?
Post by Highlander on Jan 16^th, 2008, 10:33am

Yep lets see the XJ :)
My son collects every car thats made for Racer!! :)
Will try the number plate thing later tonight, I think we have most of the colours already (except Belladona) ;)

Title: Re: Anybody remember the Racer Scorpio?
Post by TiberiuS on Jan 16^th, 2008, 6:06pm

Belladona? Who's she then? ;D

I have most of the common colours I think, if you've got another I'll make a texture for it...only takes a couple of minutes :)

About the XJ, you're right...I should keep quiet, you won't see it here ;)

There's some screenshots over on RSC, it's not released yet though, still needs interior and textures. That one will likely go into rFactor too. Racer's pretty dead lately so it shouldn't be hard finding the thread over on the forum :)

Title: Re: Anybody remember the Racer Scorpio?
Post by - Mike - on Jan 16^th, 2008, 6:07pm

Just thought I'd ask first before installing it and finding it messes everything up.........will it run on Vista ???

TIA

Title: Re: Anybody remember the Racer Scorpio?
Post by TiberiuS on Jan 16^th, 2008, 6:10pm

on 01/16/08 at 18:07:01, - Mike - wrote:

Just thought I'd ask first before installing it and finding it messes everything up.........will it run on Vista ???

TIA

Some say yes, some no. It will run and won't mess anything up but might be a bit buggy, mainly down to the newer DirectX I think. Best to try and see.

Regards, Bruce.

Title: Re: Anybody remember the Racer Scorpio?
Post by - Mike - on Jan 16^th, 2008, 6:17pm

OK will do! I'll do a system restore point first just to be safe.

Title: Re: Anybody remember the Racer Scorpio?
Post by TiberiuS on Jan 16^th, 2008, 6:21pm

lol Mike, I don't think you need worry mate but better to be safe..

People do run it on Vista and it's a mixed bag about how well it runs, the guy who develops it started developing it for Vista but he went back into XP because Vista still has some issues. AFAIK it should all run fine :)

Title: Re: Anybody remember the Racer Scorpio?
Post by - Mike - on Jan 16^th, 2008, 6:26pm

Should I use version 0.5 or the beta 0.53.
Downloading both as we speak.

Title: Re: Anybody remember the Racer Scorpio?
Post by TiberiuS on Jan 16^th, 2008, 6:39pm

Version 0.53 b8. If you get any issues with the menus etc, try 0.53 b5.

0.50f is very old (2003), you'll get some texture issues in there I think.

Just copy the car over into the racer/data/cars folder and you should be good to go ;)

Title: Re: Anybody remember the Racer Scorpio?
Post by RichardMS on Jan 17^th, 2008, 7:02pm

Downloaded it today along with the Scorps but I aint got a clue how to install it :-/ ??? ::)

Title: Re: Anybody remember the Racer Scorpio?
Post by scruffygyt on Jan 17^th, 2008, 8:45pm

i"m not the only one then!

Title: Re: Anybody remember the Racer Scorpio?
Post by Highlander on Jan 17^th, 2008, 9:07pm

If i remember right you dont install it, you just click the racer.exe in the folder to run it

Title: Re: Anybody remember the Racer Scorpio?
Post by RichardMS on Jan 18^th, 2008, 6:20pm

I can't even find that :-/

Title: Re: Anybody remember the Racer Scorpio?
Post by TiberiuS on Jan 18^th, 2008, 8:31pm

When you download Racer, it's normally a ZIP file. So it depends on whereabouts your downloaded files go, mine go to desktop, yours might go to a temp folder or something. When you find the zip, just create a new folder where you want it to be installed and unzip the file you just downloaded into that folder and it should all be done. Same with cars and tracks, they go in the racer\data\cars and racer\data\tracks folders.

Hope this helps :)