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(Message started by: cossie_al on Apr 29th, 2008, 11:18pm)
Title: Car polish
Post by cossie_al on Apr 29th, 2008, 11:18pm
I now have a new job as a car valeter and I had a lengthy discussion with my new boss about different brands of polish suiting different makes of car.
I have found that both the peugeots we have had get a far better finish with autoglym but I found my scorp came up far better with mer.
My new boss is of the opinion its how its applied, Cant say I have changed my technique any but without doubt I have had poor finishes with autoglym on the scorp and excellent finishes on the pug, the reverse is also true with mer :-/
Has anyone else found the same thing IE different brands of polish giving beter results on different makes of car.
Title: Re: Car polish
Post by Daven on Apr 30th, 2008, 8:22am
Not really - found using a clay bar followed by Zymol was good. Interesting test here (http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/products/products/207997/car_polish.html)

Have found the wax effect wears off a bit quicker than the cheaper polish - but that could just be SE London pollution :(  ;)

Dave
Title: Re: Car polish
Post by 98scenic on Apr 30th, 2008, 11:28am
I have found that different polish/waxes work differently on different cars

For the Scorpio, I used Muc Off first, followed by poorboys exp sealant and finally poorboys carnuba wax, car comes up a treat

However, my wifes Corsa just doesnt like the poorboys products at all, the stuff proves difficult to get off and just doesnt look good, so on hers I use the Meguiars 3 stage polishes

I guess it comes down to personal preference, the amount of time you have and the amount of want you want to spend

For me, 4-6hours is the maximum Im willing to spend on a polish/wax process, which I do every 2-3months
Title: Re: Car polish
Post by Matt on Apr 30th, 2008, 6:04pm
yeah found autoglym to be crap on the scorp but the meguires stuff to be top nothch on the fords we have
Title: Re: Car polish
Post by scorpio_man on Apr 30th, 2008, 8:55pm
hi there

get some jofs!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CARNAUBA-WAX-CAR-POLISH-pro-valeting-8000-Ebay-sales_W0QQitemZ320245217408QQihZ011QQcategoryZ72201QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

really good stuff.

hth
Title: Re: Car polish
Post by cossie_al on Apr 30th, 2008, 9:34pm
Never used Joffs. But I an willing to try it.
I have used clay bars and meguiars in the past and obviously they do make a big difference. The meguiars paint cleaner is absolutely fantastic at removing tar and tree sap etc.
I was just interested in the different brands on different makes of car side of things.
Title: Re: Car polish
Post by Tons_of_fun on May 1st, 2008, 5:22pm
Intresting topic.I have only used Autoglym for many years now ,as i felt it was the best product for the least amount of effort  ::).My last car was polished on a weekly basis (yes i know.....got no mates) using autoglym ultra deep gloss polish & i was amazed at how well it performed.Meguires i found is only effective on dark colours & i havent used mer in years (didnt know they still made it).I have read some good reports on the new Turtle wax "ice" polish.Its a clear liquid that leaves no chalky residue when dry ,so no spending hours with a cotton bud getting it out of hard to reach places  :o :o :o (Ok i think i had better shut up now !!! Loosing what little bit of credability i have ...If any )  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Car polish
Post by 98scenic on May 1st, 2008, 5:40pm
The Ultra deep gloss is a good product, along with the ultra gloss protection, I have never got on well with the super resin polish though, finding it difficult to remove
Title: Re: Car polish
Post by taliban aka Cheekyboy2 on May 1st, 2008, 6:09pm
i've never got on with autoglym or crystal glo whether thats on motorbikes or cars, for good quality reasonably priced versatility i find mer hard to beat, but the best i've found (reasonably priced too) is deffo the joffs....
Title: Re: Car polish
Post by Matt on May 1st, 2008, 7:00pm
not the best pic but heres what the cossie looked like after Meguires
http://i31.tinypic.com/2v0nwp4.jpg

that pic is a bit old now, shes got the facelift lighs and you can see the old 12v in the reflection lol
Title: Re: Car polish
Post by - Mike - on May 1st, 2008, 7:17pm
My word Matt what can one say but WOW  :) she looks fantastic!

Mine's silver which unfortunately is not a good colour in order to achieve a shine.  I have tried MER but found it too hard to take off and so have recently settled on the Autoglym High Gloss which is quite good.  But all ways willing to try new things I have just now ordered the JOFs via scorpio_man's link. Might yet even try the Maguires   ;).

Really need to get some polish on as I haven't, ashamedly, done so since ....well sometime last year.  :-[
Title: Re: Car polish
Post by cossie_al on May 1st, 2008, 8:17pm
Matt,
That looks the muts nuts. :o :o :o
I love to see a black car with that deep glossy shine.
Its a credit to you ;)
Title: Re: Car polish
Post by Matt on May 1st, 2008, 8:39pm
its dark aubergine actually, took a while to do but i did it panel by panel repeating it till i was happy lol, the rain ran off it faultlessly for a month or two  ;D i dont normally go to that extreme with it tho :(
Title: Re: Car polish
Post by wayne on May 1st, 2008, 10:23pm
Strange how peoples opinions differ., I tried Autoglym and thought it was too much hard work buffing it off, and the end result didn't justify the effort.
Been a devout Mer fan for years..until I tried Jofs! Easy on, easy off and a deeeep gloss shine.

Probably Scorpio-Man's recommend in the first place some time back. Good one!

Goes a long way too.. I thought 'this little bottle won't do the Scorpio' but it took just half the bottle.
That was last Summer. I add a couple of cap fulls of Mer polish to the Mer shampoo when I wash the car and that keeps her shiny. Will use the rest of the Jofs when the decent weather arrives.  ;D
Title: Re: Car polish
Post by gozz on May 1st, 2008, 10:57pm
wayne.
Are you taking your car to Spain then ?  ;D
                          GOZZ.
Title: Re: Car polish
Post by TiberiuS on May 2nd, 2008, 10:28am
Hi guys. I use both Autoglym and Jofs, like them both for different reasons.

Autoglym is a better product than Jofs, no question. After a while the Jofs matts up the paint and you have to use something else to clean it off...the finish lasts a bit longer but it also goes greasy and hazy after a few days if you keep the car covered and it sweats a bit., neither happen with Autoglym. Jofs though is softer, makes a good detailing polish, the finish is deeper and not quite as 'sharp', it's also more tolerant of water/weathered paint.

Autoglym has a mild cutting action like T-Cut. Super Resin (red label) is the best...High Gloss (black label) is great if you use it over the red but on it's own it doesn't take kindly to weathered paint...but then Autoglym doesn't anyway, that's why you have trouble taking it off afterwards. But red is the best if the car's been weathered a bit.  

Did my Scorp properly with the Autoglym once after I did some paintwork, took all one Staurday evening to clean and cut it back and most of the Sunday to polish it back up...but the result was stunning, believe me it really looked better than new.

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l89/TiberiuS1250/P789-3.jpg
Title: Re: Car polish
Post by wayne on May 2nd, 2008, 3:48pm

Quote:
wayne.
Are you taking your car to Spain then ?  
      GOZZ.

Hmm., Point well taken!
Fact that I haven't felt inclined to use the other half bottle is testimony to the rubbish weather we have here!  ::)
Title: Re: Car polish
Post by wayne on May 2nd, 2008, 3:58pm
If guys are posting pics, can I post mine?  ;D
This is after I'd Jof'd her last Summer...
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y247/wizwoz/DSCF0156.jpg
Title: Re: Car polish
Post by taliban aka Cheekyboy2 on May 2nd, 2008, 6:02pm
thats interesting tibs, i've never found autoglym to do anything of any note, i've never even got water to bead off with it, whereas the depth i get with joffs is amazing, i've never found it to go greasy or hazy either, but an interesting point you noted about the car being covered, mine lives outside...
Title: Re: Car polish
Post by IVANNE on May 2nd, 2008, 7:18pm
HI REF POLISH NEVER HERD OF JOFFS POLISH ALWAYS USE MEGUIRES WERE CAN I GET SOME FROM PLEASE           JUST BOUGHT COSWORH 1995 WITH ONLY 36000 MILE ON CLOCK BUT CANT USE IT TILL I SELL MY MERC TRIED EBAY BUT NO GO WILL TRY AUTO TRADER NEXT CANT WAIT TO GIVE SCORPIO A GO
Title: Re: Car polish
Post by taliban aka Cheekyboy2 on May 2nd, 2008, 7:28pm
joffs is sold on ebay....
Title: Re: Car polish
Post by scorpio_man on May 2nd, 2008, 9:33pm
hi there

get JOF'S wax here (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CARNAUBA-WAX-CAR-POLISH-pro-valeting-8000-Ebay-sales_W0QQitemZ320245217408QQihZ011QQcategoryZ72201QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem).

hth
Title: Re: Car polish
Post by 98scenic on May 2nd, 2008, 9:52pm
What I do find odd is that no picture of the product is visible on the link at all  :o other than a picture of a car and a lot of text
Title: Re: Car polish
Post by scorpio_man on May 2nd, 2008, 10:04pm

on 05/02/08 at 21:52:04, 98scenic wrote:
What I do find odd is that no picture of the product is visible on the link at all  :o other than a picture of a car and a lot of text


hi there

what do want to see? ;D

it's a wee plastic bottle with a white liquid in side. Jof's wax label on the side. not exactly photogenic, is it? }{

hth
Title: Re: Car polish
Post by cossie_al on May 2nd, 2008, 10:19pm
;D
Title: Re: Car polish
Post by gozz on May 2nd, 2008, 10:24pm
98scenic.
Aye laddie it's a wee roond bortle wi 500 ml o mulky jorlop unnit !
                                       GOZZ
Title: Re: Car polish
Post by Tons_of_fun on May 3rd, 2008, 12:46am
Ok,you have persueded me to try some Jofs.As they say a change is as good as a rest  ;).Just got to find a new car to try it on now  :-/ :-/
Title: Re: Car polish
Post by 98scenic on May 3rd, 2008, 9:01am
I think we will agree to disagree on our buying habbits  :)
Title: Re: Car polish
Post by TiberiuS on May 3rd, 2008, 10:40am
Tali, yes it's because the car is kept covered. Used it on the Mondeo which gets all the weather and no problems...but it does turn into a greasy mess on the paint if it sweats. You've also got to be careful of it on rubber trim, seems to attack some rubbers like the window seals.

Big thing against Autoglym is the white residue. You need really clean paint otherwise it's a pig to get on/off but it will cut the paint back nice, I use it after the rubbing compound when I finish clearcoat.

Just ordered myself a kit with some Meguires stuff in it, will give that a try too...

Car cleaning is a chore I really hate. But I like a clean car :)
Title: Re: Car polish
Post by - Mike - on May 3rd, 2008, 12:46pm
Well the JOF's arrived this morning, crickey that was quick, only ordered it on Thursday.
Hopefully I can try it out soon.  :)
Title: Re: Car polish
Post by sab6024 on May 3rd, 2008, 1:45pm
I'm a great fan of Autoglym and use it on both my Scorpy and my Capri, although both cars need the bodywork sorting  ::)  Simoniz products are too much like hard work and I didn't really get on with Meguiars either  :(
Title: Re: Car polish
Post by peteHull on May 3rd, 2008, 1:51pm

on 05/03/08 at 12:46:19, - Mike - wrote:
Well the JOF's arrived this morning, crickey that was quick, only ordered it on Thursday.
Hopefully I can try it out soon.  :)


Great, I have been watching this thread and ordered some Joffs on the strength of it yesterday so should arrive soon.  I'll give it a go next w/end when I have time at work.... ;D

Thanks for the info everyone.... ;)

Pete
Title: Re: Car polish
Post by taliban aka Cheekyboy2 on May 3rd, 2008, 8:16pm
i've bought a few different joffs products now and have to say their service i.e. speedy delivery is superb. another good one they make is the leather cream 'love leather', superb on the sofa, car seats etc.
never tried maguires, maybe oneday once i use up all my joffs, mer and a 5ltr tin of trade polish i have, which is actually pretty good stuff.
Title: Re: Car polish
Post by Matt on May 3rd, 2008, 9:59pm
TiberiuS,

that wouldnt happen to be the clay bar kit would it? used it on the diesel and my word its shines it up good and proper
Title: Re: Car polish
Post by Tons_of_fun on May 3rd, 2008, 11:52pm
Yep ,i can vouch for that  ;D.Actually Matt if you fancy giving it a real test you can always have a go at mopping my latest "project"  ::) :o ;D ;D
Title: Re: Car polish
Post by TiberiuS on May 4th, 2008, 12:38pm
Hi Matt, yes it was one of those kits containing some shampoo, polish and a couple of clay bars :). And yes, your cossie looks stunning, I still love those 7 spokers :-*

I bought (two) bars last year but neither ever arrived, clay must be very rare around the warehouse in Leeds where they were meant to ship from judging by the amount of time they kept promising to send them ::)

BTW, does anybody still use Turtle Wax (the stuff in the flat tin)? We used to use the coloured stuff on the Capri, being white it used to keep it looking good and it was just normal old fashioned, cellulose paint. But we started using the metallic TW on the Mondeo, never seemed to do much good :-/

Regards, Bruce :)
Title: Re: Car polish
Post by 98scenic on May 4th, 2008, 1:35pm
I have still got some tins of Turtle Wax and Turtle Wax metallic tucked away somewhere !
Title: Re: Car polish
Post by Matt on May 4th, 2008, 2:45pm
what ya brought then craig? wasnt that 2 tone 24v in leeds was it??
Title: Re: Car polish
Post by TiberiuS on May 8th, 2008, 10:22pm
No clay bars, I bought the wrong bleedin' kit, didn't I ;D

I thought it was cheap, bargain of the century me thought ::)

Anyhow, used it on the Mondeo tonight. The shampoo is better than Zip wax, nice suds and cleans the paint nice. The wax is good but not quite as good as Jofs I don't think. The paint on the Mondy isn't great, there's some orange peel here and there and it's a bit weathered and the wax still polishes out easily, Autoglym is hell to remove from the rough parts. But it doesn't seem to put the finish on that Jofs or Autoglym does.

Paint finish on the Jag is better, depends how it works over there. But it's still between Jofs and Autoglym I think :).
Title: Re: Car polish
Post by - Mike - on May 21st, 2008, 9:29pm
Well I've finally tried the JOF's and what can I say?
First of all I did half the bonnet in JOF's and the other half in Autoglym Ultra High Gloss (the one with the black label), now taking into account the car hadn't seen polish since sometime last year and despite washing it will Turtle Wax shampoo it still felt to be rough as bears behind, I would say that the Autoglym was easier to apply and remove, but the JOF's was a far superior gloss finish, even noticeable on silver.
So I set about doing the whole car in JOF's and the only thing was that even after two coats I had to use some GardX stage2 finishing polish to get the smoothness back, which unfortunately dampened the shine ever so slightly.

So in conclusion, The JOF's is good, better than the Autoglym and I'm sure next time as long as I don't leave it quite so long and prep better the application and finish would be improved.

Might experiment with the Meguirs next.  ;)
Title: Re: Car polish
Post by scorpio_man on Jun 13th, 2008, 5:45pm
hi there

just gave the car a quick coat of jofs wax. i gave it a coat of mer last week as a base to work from. came up not bad i'd say. :)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v521/scorpio_man/scorpio%20bits/Photo-0004s.jpg
Title: Re: Car polish
Post by Tons_of_fun on Jun 14th, 2008, 8:27pm
You,ve missed a bit  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Car polish
Post by wayne on Jun 14th, 2008, 10:44pm
I'm not a big fan of the estates but that one does look well.  Nice one!  
Title: Re: Car polish
Post by podge on Jun 23rd, 2008, 2:20pm
On recomendations from the members, I went for the Carnauba wax. fantastic shine.
regards,
podge.
Title: Re: Car polish
Post by amigafan2003 on Jun 25th, 2008, 7:41pm
Summers clean.

Poorboys medium clay bar followed by Meguirs Gold Class wax.  Quite pleased.  Only the arches  spoiling the car now :-(

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v25/amigafan2003/001.jpg
Title: Re: Car polish
Post by peteHull on Jun 26th, 2008, 8:21am
Still havn't done mine.... :( haven't had the time or inclination... :'(

Soon Maybe...

Pete
Title: Re: Car polish
Post by Geeker on Jun 26th, 2008, 5:59pm
Mine is in deperate need of a bit of TLC, what is putting me off is, the last few times I've gone to all the trouble of making it sparkle and gleam, some ignorant oik has run their key along all panels on both sides, as well as across the bonnet and boot ...what possible pleasure or satisfaction they get from doing it I'll never know or understand  :'(


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