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(Message started by: cossie_al on Mar 2nd, 2009, 10:12pm)

Title: Found my way back to the blue oval
Post by cossie_al on Mar 2nd, 2009, 10:12pm
Well guys not been around for a while but at last I have found my way back to the ford badge.
You will be pleased to hear that french pile of cr@p was traded in.
Managed to find a 55reg mondeo estate tdci apparently its the 130bhp.
only driven 3 miles since getting it but I am so happy to get back to ford. :D :D :D

Title: Re: Found my way back to the blue oval
Post by Highlander on Mar 3rd, 2009, 10:01pm
Happy and Mondeo all in the same sentence?? ;)

You're halfway Al ;) still looking for a Scorpio?? ;)

Title: Re: Found my way back to the blue oval
Post by Scorpio_Mike on Mar 3rd, 2009, 10:39pm
Welcome back Cossie_al - you saw the light and came back to the fold.

Guess the French 'mistress' was not all she seemed  ;)
Seductively styled but somewhat high maintainence  :'(

Get another Scorpio, you know it makes sense  ;D

Title: Re: Found my way back to the blue oval
Post by Jonnycab on Mar 3rd, 2009, 11:24pm
Nice buy Al  ;)..... but one thing to watch out for on the TDs (that I've heard from many a fellow cabbie that owns one) is injector problems. Apparently they are prone to getting gunged up/blocked easily & are very expensive to replace as they are coded to the ECU.

Might be a good idea to run some Wynns (or similar) diesel injector cleaner through the system  ;)

P.S....a mate bought a 607 diesel auto about 8 months ago & the box has just gone on that as well....must be a weak point on these cars  :)

Title: Re: Found my way back to the blue oval
Post by cossie_al on Mar 3rd, 2009, 11:41pm
Thanks Guys,
Mike you are spot on about the peugeot I wont bore you with the details but I have spent twice as much on repairs as I paid for the car. To be honest I should have cut my losses after replacing the gearbox but hindsight is a wonderfull thing.
I was intending to flog the pug and spend whatever I got on a scorp but now we have the caravan and a dog I realy wanted a derv estate so that would have norrowed the search even more.
Jonny I am aware of the injector probs, Apparantly its about £100 to have a dealership recode a set of injectors so I will be looking for a set off a low mileage scrapper.
Does any of the guys you know use wynns in there tdci motors? the reason I ask is on the tdci forum a lot of members have had problems after using injector cleaners in particular red ex ???

Title: Re: Found my way back to the blue oval
Post by Dave on Mar 4th, 2009, 2:40pm
I too have come back to the blue oval, it's an 02 plate Focus ST170. I think it's a rebound car. I miss the Scorpio horribly, but I know I got rid of it at the right time (i.e. before it destroyed me).

I'm very unimpressed with myself for buying a manual though, that's the hardest part to come to terms with.. again it was a decision I made after much thought. "Speed over comfort" I thought. See, a rebound car!

Glad to have had four happy years with the old cossie though. Happy happy days  ;)

Title: Re: Found my way back to the blue oval
Post by Jonnycab on Mar 4th, 2009, 4:04pm

on 03/03/09 at 23:41:08, cossie_al wrote:
Does any of the guys you know use wynns in there tdci motors? the reason I ask is on the tdci forum a lot of members have had problems after using injector cleaners in particular red ex ???


No, that's why they've all had to replace their injectors  }{

Honestly though, I'm not sure, so I wouldn't like to advise which product is the best  :)

Title: Re: Found my way back to the blue oval
Post by wumpster on Mar 4th, 2009, 7:53pm
many of the newer commonrail TD engines dont like ingector cleanner in em it can cause probs with seals on the pumps and injectors we runn mondeo tdci as taxis m8 they have now covered 190,000 plus and never had any cleaner in em and they have been fine just clutch probs with ours not a cheap job as its a duall mass flywheel and it always goes other than that they are ok

Title: Re: Found my way back to the blue oval
Post by cossie_al on Mar 4th, 2009, 8:38pm
Thanks wumpster,
I heard a tdci in a supermarket car park today and it was fairly rattling on tick over, it was like it was pinking badly. it sounded more like an agricultural vehicle ;D
Mine sounds nothing like that,
in two minds what to do now ???
I suppose if it aint broke it doesn't need fixing, but then keeping the injectors clean may prevent probs later but then it may cause problems putting the stuff in.
AARRGGHH!!!!! ??? ??? ??? ;D

Title: Re: Found my way back to the blue oval
Post by Jonnycab on Mar 5th, 2009, 2:02am
Hi Al, I've done a little digging & Wynns do a couple of products that state they are safe to use on TDCi common rail diesels....

HERE (http://www.wynns.be/product.aspx?nav=1&g=1&s=26&b=139&p=13964&l=EN)  &  HERE (http://www.auto-essentials.co.uk/ecomm/catalog/wynns-high-pressure-mainland-only-description-p-105.html)

Probably the same product but packaged differently  ::)

I couldn't recommend these products as I've never used them, so it's up to you mate  ;)

In theory I suppose, with fuel being so clean nowadays, then you shouldn't need to stick in fuel cleaners. But everytime you open the fuel cap then something will get into the tank.....moisture, dust being blown by the wind, crud from fuel pump nozzle etc....  :)

But as you said 'if it ain't broke, it doesn't need fixing', so might be best to leave it alone if it's running fine. But if you do start to get any problems with the injectors/fuel system, then it might be worth trying one of the above or similar before paying out loads of dosh for new injectors  ;)

Hope this helps with your dilemma  :)

P.S....most people I know who have had injector problems with these Mondeos have only had to have one or two injectors replaced. So maybe it's a possibility that the injectors just go bad all on their own  :-/

Title: Re: Found my way back to the blue oval
Post by wumpster on Mar 5th, 2009, 3:07pm
when the tdci gets a bad rattle that sounds like timing chain its normally the bottom pulley they are a common one for going they have a daft rubber crush system that drops to bits got loads of old ones here  ;D ;D ;D ;D



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