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(Message started by: Highlander on Nov 19^th, 2009, 12:05pm)

Title: 24v 4x4 Scorpio Estate
Post by Highlander on Nov 19^th, 2009, 12:05pm

I've finally managed to get round to starting this project! :)

Previous Thread (http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=Advice;action=display;num=1246141601;start=0)

I have a Diesel estate to use as a donor which is currently having the engine/box removed ready to begin.

I have plenty parts now from two Sierra XR4x4's (The 1990- 2.9 models, not the 2.8 )

The plan is to fit a 24v BOB from a Scorpio onto the alloy Sierra 4x4 front subframe (which fits the Scorpio perfectly) to the XR4x4 MT75 4x4 box and 4x4 running gear (sounds easy when you say it quickly) :)

All info, ideas, contributions and ridiculing welcome ;D

Watch this space:

Title: Re: 24v 4x4 Scorpio Estate
Post by Dave2302 on Nov 19^th, 2009, 12:18pm

Stuart,

I did exactly this conversion to a Sapphire a while back. Will help all I can just e mail or phone. Wiring will be yr biggest headache, but I used BOA management and made wiring loom from XR and BOA wiring. Oil drains into 4x4 sump a bit fiddly, but patience and a good ally welder makes a neat job of em ;)

Just starting my new project...

24v BOB 4wd Focus rally car.

Any 4x4 bits you wanna sell I'm yr man, need floorpan / tunnel from XR4x4 plus all running gear sump etc. So anything you wanna get rid of, body shell etc lol gissa shout. Collection pref after Xmas as Im a Blue @rsed Fly at the mo ;D

Regards Dave

Title: Re: 24v 4x4 Scorpio Estate
Post by Highlander on Nov 19^th, 2009, 1:02pm

on 11/19/09 at 12:18:47, Dave2302 wrote:

Oil drains into 4x4 sump a bit fiddly, but patience and a good ally welder makes a neat job of em ;)

Yep had a look at them on someone elses project, not much room for error :)

Dont have any Sierra bodyshells left sorry :-/

Title: Re: 24v 4x4 Scorpio Estate
Post by Scorpio_Mike on Nov 19^th, 2009, 5:05pm

Do you think you will have to modify the front chassis rails to clear the front driveshafts as per the XR4x4 or not ?

Title: Re: 24v 4x4 Scorpio Estate
Post by Dave2302 on Nov 19^th, 2009, 6:41pm

I did 'em on the Saff easy peasy, 'bout half hour per side when there's no x member in it. ;)

Title: Re: 24v 4x4 Scorpio Estate
Post by Dave2302 on Nov 19^th, 2009, 6:48pm

on 11/19/09 at 13:02:07, Highlander wrote:

Dont have any Sierra bodyshells left sorry :-/

Awww poo, suppose I'll end up buying a complete 4x4 Sierra but they gettin' a bit thin on the ground now :(

Title: Re: 24v 4x4 Scorpio Estate
Post by Scorpio_Mike on Nov 19^th, 2009, 7:24pm

on 11/19/09 at 18:41:33, Dave2302 wrote:

I did 'em on the Saff easy peasy, 'bout half hour per side when there's no x member in it. ;)

I've heard of 4x4 conversions on 2wd Sierra's where the front chassis rails have been left unmodified ???

Title: Re: 24v 4x4 Scorpio Estate
Post by Scorpio_Mike on Nov 19^th, 2009, 7:25pm

on 11/19/09 at 18:48:20, Dave2302 wrote:

Awww poo, suppose I'll end up buying a complete 4x4 Sierra but they gettin' a bit thin on the ground now :(

Ooops....gave a 4x4 Sierra shell away a few months ago :-[

Title: Re: 24v 4x4 Scorpio Estate
Post by Highlander on Nov 19^th, 2009, 7:36pm

on 11/19/09 at 17:05:09, Scorpio_Mike wrote:

Do you think you will have to modify the front chassis rails to clear the front driveshafts as per the XR4x4 or not ?

Possibly, theres not much in it but i'll see how it looks

Title: Re: 24v 4x4 Scorpio Estate
Post by Dave2302 on Nov 19^th, 2009, 8:27pm

on 11/19/09 at 19:24:58, Scorpio_Mike wrote:

I've heard of 4x4 conversions on 2wd Sierra's where the front chassis rails have been left unmodified ???

Yeah lotsa ppl said that to me but they looked mighty close to me and mine was gonna be lowered so I took the safe route and did it, like I say wee bit of grinding with small angle grinder, bend up a bit of steel and weld it in, very easy.

Shame about the shell, I know where theres a crossmember and a v6 sump wiv diff, poss a backend too, will be using Bilstein shox and springs but the basis of the project requires 4x4 Sierra floorpan and tunnell welding into Focus Shell ;D

Title: Re: 24v 4x4 Scorpio Estate
Post by Highlander on Nov 19^th, 2009, 8:28pm

Scorpio floorpan no good?

I might have one spare ;)

Title: Re: 24v 4x4 Scorpio Estate
Post by Dave2302 on Nov 19^th, 2009, 8:34pm

Would B more work, the transfer box hits the tunnell and the cradle bolts are different place, but if I can't get one a Scorpio one would B the next best thing, I'm assuming the back end is the same mountings etc ?

Dont Scrap em just yet lol ;D

Title: Re: 24v 4x4 Scorpio Estate
Post by Scorpio_Mike on Nov 19^th, 2009, 9:05pm

Ebay seller Sierrashack may be worth contacting for a Sierra 4x4 floorpan :-/
About £60 or so.

Title: Re: 24v 4x4 Scorpio Estate
Post by Highlander on Nov 19^th, 2009, 9:06pm

I paid that for my last Sierra! ;)

Title: Re: 24v 4x4 Scorpio Estate
Post by Highlander on Nov 19^th, 2009, 9:11pm

What I am after is a pair of 3.92 diffs from a 2.0 XR4x4 Sierra.

There was an estate sold on ebay yesterday for £235 just down the road from me but I dont have any room just now! ;D

Title: Re: 24v 4x4 Scorpio Estate
Post by Scorpio_Mike on Nov 19^th, 2009, 9:15pm

on 11/19/09 at 21:11:09, Highlander wrote:

What I am after is a pair of 3.92 diffs from a 2.0 XR4x4 Sierra.

There was an estate sold on ebay yesterday for £235 just down the road from me but I dont have any room just now! ;D

Maybe if you stacked your scrap cars like the old breakers yards ;D

Title: Re: 24v 4x4 Scorpio Estate
Post by Scorpio_Mike on Nov 19^th, 2009, 9:18pm

on 11/19/09 at 20:27:05, Dave2302 wrote:

So you didn't actually notch the rails as per factory ?

I'm keeping mine standard ride height so hopefully will get away with leaving the rails alone.

Title: Re: 24v 4x4 Scorpio Estate
Post by Highlander on Nov 19^th, 2009, 9:19pm

What about a spacer on the subframe to lower it slightly?

Title: Re: 24v 4x4 Scorpio Estate
Post by Dave2302 on Nov 20^th, 2009, 1:08pm

on 11/19/09 at 21:18:03, Scorpio_Mike wrote:

So you didn't actually notch the rails as per factory ?

Yeah, as per original.

Also,when I say they look close, that was at std ride height before I fitted the lowered Koni kit.

I cleaned off the rails on the old XR4x4 shell that I broke up, and did an exact copy. Like most chassis rails, the rails are double skinned. On the 2wd Saff shell when I ground the curve out from the first skin, the second skin underneath has the curve in it. You then weld in another piece on top of this to give the second skin the curve, soft disc grind the welds and underseal, its an exact copy of the 4wd shell rails then.

It sounds hard but once you start grinding off the first skin (carefully) you'll see what I mean, it really is easy.

So easy I wouldn't take the chance, and I wouldn't spacer the subframe either.

Like I said half hour per side on a stripped out front end.

HTH Dave

Title: Re: 24v 4x4 Scorpio Estate
Post by Highlander on Nov 20^th, 2009, 2:43pm

on 11/20/09 at 13:08:01, Dave2302 wrote:

On the 2wd Saff shell when I ground the curve out from the first skin, the second skin underneath has the curve in it.

Now theres a thought, I WONDER if the Scorpio has the same inner curved skin left over from the Granada.....

Will investigate tomorrow ;)

Title: Re: 24v 4x4 Scorpio Estate
Post by Dave2302 on Nov 20^th, 2009, 3:19pm

Would be very interested to know that Stuart, cos if I go the Scorpio floorpan route, it maybe easier for me to cut the rails and inner wings out with it and weld the whole lot into the Focus shell.

I'm not sure yet how the Focus inner wings and chassis rails are gonna look with regards to the 4x4 xmember and strut top mounts ;)

It may be that I'll remove the complete Focus floor from back panel thru floor / tunnel, bulkheads and inner wings / chassis rails and then cut a sierra / scorpio pan out the same. Then cut the sierra / scorpio pan behind the handbrake and remove enough to get the lengths / wheelbase correct. Trim each side to get widths correct across sills bulkheads and arches.

Weld it all in and Roberts the brother of yr mother ;)

Instant 4x4 Focus shell ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: 24v 4x4 Scorpio Estate
Post by Matt on Nov 20^th, 2009, 6:38pm

if you need any help with geting round the auto electrics give me a pm :)

Title: Re: 24v 4x4 Scorpio Estate
Post by Highlander on Nov 20^th, 2009, 8:20pm

Cheers Matt, will need to find out how that works, i've had various people giving me very vague and ropey descriptions of whats involved so far lol

Title: Re: 24v 4x4 Scorpio Estate
Post by Matt on Nov 21^st, 2009, 11:22am

ive got a few photos i took when i did mine but there are a few things id do diffrent when i take it all out again and fit the 4.0, (less wireing and bits lol)

Title: Re: 24v 4x4 Scorpio Estate
Post by Dave2302 on Nov 22^nd, 2009, 5:40pm

Stuart... Any news on the chassis rails yet?

Matt... How did you stop the transmission from flagging an error code and defaulting once your roadspeed rises and you start shifting the manual box...

I say this because the transmission control looks at input rpm v output rpm and if it doesnt change gear within its parameters it will flag a slip or ratio error. Also a converter lockup slip ???
AFAIK the ECU is also monitoring the Overdrive gearset speed via the internal speed sensor in the front of the auto tranny, (not the VSS). It's all very well fooling the ECU into thinking the solenoids and sensors are connected but I doubt it will stop the above happening. once the vehicle is underway ???

Have you scanned it for transmission codes once you've driven it (not just OBD scan) ?

That is why I have in the past used BOA EEC IV on Manual / 4x4 BOB's. as the BOA tranny is hydraulic and vac modulated it avoids all this, and its parameters and lambda's will correct the fuelling, so that's not an issue.

I may try using a 2.0 16V Scorpio Manual EEC V ECU on the 24V Focus as they can be re - flashed, if necc. But again I doubt the fuelling will be that far off, only problem may be injector sequencing, but I'm not sure if the BOB is fully sequential or just one crank revolution i.e bank to bank ???

...or...

It also may be worth getting the 24V BOB ECU re flashed to remove the gearbox program, I have a mate who maps for Ford's, General Motors etc etc and has the software to do this.

If anyone has a spare BOB ECU (Stuart ?) we could try this out.

Jeez, now I got a headache }{

HTH

Regards Dave

Title: Re: 24v 4x4 Scorpio Estate
Post by Matt on Nov 22^nd, 2009, 8:49pm

Hi Dave

The way i did it was i used relays for the shift sols and resistors for the sensors, the EPC is the one i had trouble with so i stripped the box and just stuck the solenoid back in for now (cooked resistors and as its always pulsing so made relays noisy and in time would burn out), ive not used that internal transmission speed sensor, on my car at least it doesn't appear to need it/monitor it?

Ive got it wired so that its permanently in neutral resistance wise, also not all functions of the auto box are tested when its in park or neutral. You can remove the start inhibit very easily on the auto box

i road tested the car for about 10-15 miles and it never faultered or went in to limp mode, revs all the way up to the red line, it seems ok with the traction control to

one thing i have noticed is the E and S buttons make a difference to the shift sols, in E solenoid 1 and 2 constantly pulse in S they dont

the OD just leave open circuit (i pulled the wires from the multi plug)

i will be modifying my set-up a bit fooling wise as i dont need some of the circuit board i made up and want to find a better way of fooling the EPC, and having it so that it will always be in S mode

not had it tested on a computer for codes but driving it would appear to be ok

when the 4.0 is built and ready to be fitted i hope to run it all off a stand alone ecu so none of this will be an issue, that will be the turn of mapping that engine lol

Title: Re: 24v 4x4 Scorpio Estate
Post by Stixy on Nov 22^nd, 2009, 10:22pm

I know on the 2.0 and 2.3 just disconnecting the 3-4 shift wire will stop the engine starting so i am also interested to hear about this fool box :)

There is a guy in Finland on FSOC who fitted a 2.3 16v to a Sierra he bought a new crate engine and autobox ecu and loom etc he never used the autobox and fitted his manual box so i asked him how he fooled the ecu he said

[quote="Sierra Finland"]"Hi, It was quite easy, just had to cheat the ecu to think that there is an autobox, and it is on position "N". You can use the position sensor from the 2,3 autobox"

Instead of scorpio autobox´s position sensor, you can use 750 ohm (dont know the word :oops: )

750 ohms equals the position "N"

-Ville[/quote]

he took a lot of pics
http://s128.photobucket.com/albums/p195/caprimies/Dohc%202300%20projekti/

Title: Re: 24v 4x4 Scorpio Estate
Post by Dave2302 on Nov 23^rd, 2009, 6:26pm

Ah, yes cheers Matt, I've just realised as you rightly say the box control won't monitor shifts if it thinks its in neutral.

Doh.... didn't think of that :-[

Still in my defence it was a very late lock in down our local Saturday night / Sunday morning and my brain wasn't exactly in gear yesterday ;D

Think the best plan for me, for the Focus Rally Car is to give my mate the 24V BOB ECU to reflash though, it will just remove the Auto Box programming completely ;)

Title: Re: 24v 4x4 Scorpio Estate
Post by Dave2302 on Nov 23^rd, 2009, 6:39pm

Stuart,

If you find a 2.0 4x4 for sale cheapish, Id be happy to stump up some dosh and let you drop the car here, I can pull out the diffs for you as I dont need them but need all the rest. I dare say you probably got a spare 2.9 4x4 rear diff and I already have the V6 sump and front diff.

Let me know what ya think

Regards Dave

Title: Re: 24v 4x4 Scorpio Estate
Post by Matt on Nov 24^th, 2009, 11:36am

dave would a stripped 24v scorpio body shell be any good to you? well the floor plan?

Title: Re: 24v 4x4 Scorpio Estate
Post by Dave2302 on Nov 24^th, 2009, 11:58am

Hi Matt, and thanks for the offer.

Yeah have considered Scorpio Floorpan, and the answer is maybe, but coz I need all the 4x4 running gear at the mo I'm gonna keep looking for an XR4X4 Sierra.

The Scorpio floorpan would go but is more work involved, the Sierra 4X4 ones will go in the Focus with little modification, saving time on tunnel mods, rear suspension hook up etc. Will also be easier to keep it all geometrically correct with less mods LOL.

I'm going to get my 24V Estate MOT'd in the near future so I can put the private plate on me Explorer, then I'm gonna have the Engine etc out of it for the Focus, so if I'm really stuck guess I can use the floorpan out of the Estate.

Regards Dave

Title: Re: 24v 4x4 Scorpio Estate
Post by Highlander on Nov 24^th, 2009, 7:20pm

on 11/23/09 at 18:39:24, Dave2302 wrote:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140361337340&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

A bit far away but i'm watching for them ;)

I dont have the rear diff Dave sorry, I sold it on ebay and got nearly as much for it as I paid for the whole car! :)

I do have a couple of front ones still but not much good to you

Title: Re: 24v 4x4 Scorpio Estate
Post by Dave2302 on Nov 24^th, 2009, 8:35pm

I saw that one Stuart, but it's even further for me ;D

Shame you not got a V6 rear diff but offer still stands if you find one locally.

p.s. PM me if yr bidding on one on Ebay, would be a bit daft if we both bidding on the same one }{

Title: Re: 24v 4x4 Scorpio Estate
Post by Highlander on Jul 9^th, 2010, 8:22pm

Now got a complete set of 3.92 diffs Thanks Mike ;)

Title: Re: 24v 4x4 Scorpio Estate
Post by Scorpio_Mike on Apr 19^th, 2011, 9:11pm

How are you getting with your project Stuart ?

Got mine back now, just fitting it all up ;)

Title: Re: 24v 4x4 Scorpio Estate
Post by Highlander on Apr 20^th, 2011, 12:47am

VERY slowly, got another two in front of it! ;D

Title: Re: 24v 4x4 Scorpio Estate
Post by Highlander on Apr 22^nd, 2011, 2:32pm

Just off to pick up another donor 2.9 4x4 Ghia Estate :)

Title: Re: 24v 4x4 Scorpio Estate
Post by Scorpio_Mike on Apr 22^nd, 2011, 7:57pm

on 04/22/11 at 14:32:13, Highlander wrote:

Just off to pick up another donor 2.9 4x4 Ghia Estate :)

Oooh...rare :o

Starting to refit the interior of my project now :)

Title: Re: 24v 4x4 Scorpio Estate
Post by Highlander on Apr 23^rd, 2011, 2:03pm

Picked this one up last night, it was only described as an 4x4 estate non runner (suspected engine seized) .... £200

2.9 Ghia 4x4 estate in mint condition, inside and out, no rust at all, undersealed with some black waxy looking stuff. all Ghia 4x4 refinements, headlight protectors, spare alloys, new tyres, taxed till August, Mot October

Had a play around with it last night, the starter was jammed! now running perfectly although the clutch has gone, looks like it will be back on the road soon!

Just what I needed, another 20 mpg motor! might come in handy if we get another winter like last year though ;D

http://i51.tinypic.com/2w5vrsk.jpg

Title: Re: 24v 4x4 Scorpio Estate
Post by gozz on Apr 23^rd, 2011, 4:48pm

Amazing how some people throw their hands in the air Stuart ::) it's all about the ravages of time and comparing replacement with fuel costs I reckon,however you look at it,WASTE is what it boils down to in this 'economic' climate !!
GOZZ.

Title: Re: 24v 4x4 Scorpio Estate
Post by Highlander on Apr 23^rd, 2011, 6:50pm

Looks like it.

According to the folder full of info I got with it the first two owners had it around ten years each and then its been passed on three times in the last 6 months, last owner paid £200 for it a week ago and it broke down (clutch) on the way home and he just wanted to move it on.

Previous owner wasnt sure what was wrong and didnt want to spend any money on it.

Pity though I was just wanting the bits off it ;D

Title: Re: 24v 4x4 Scorpio Estate
Post by Dave2302 on Apr 23^rd, 2011, 7:16pm

Right touch that one LOL,

I've seen some minging old rattlers go for 3 times that ;)

Cheers Dave

Title: Re: 24v 4x4 Scorpio Estate
Post by Highlander on Apr 24^th, 2011, 12:43am

I was expecting (hoping) it to be rotten Dave... sometimes you get a surprise in a good way though :)

Title: Re: 24v 4x4 Scorpio Estate
Post by Highlander on Apr 26^th, 2011, 9:21am

Even more good luck! ;D

My initial failed clutch diagnosis turns out only to be a broken clutch cable!

The inner cable was still ok, the outer casing had collapsed making it appear that the clutch was the fault, never seen that before...

I grudge paying £12 for a clutch cable when I only paid £200 for the car though!! ;D

Title: Re: 24v 4x4 Scorpio Estate
Post by gozz on Apr 26^th, 2011, 9:30am

Can ye no appeal tae the destitute Scots fund ;D
GOZZ.

Title: Re: 24v 4x4 Scorpio Estate
Post by Highlander on Apr 26^th, 2011, 4:14pm

Nah, they're tight them Scots! ;D

Title: Re: 24v 4x4 Scorpio Estate
Post by Mike H on Apr 26^th, 2011, 8:51pm

on 04/26/11 at 09:21:15, Highlander wrote:

Even more good luck! ;D

My initial failed clutch diagnosis turns out only to be a broken clutch cable!

Amazing! If only the previous guy knew that ;D

But then you wouldn't have it

Title: Re: 24v 4x4 Scorpio Estate
Post by Highlander on Apr 27^th, 2011, 9:21pm

New clutch cable installed and car running perfectly!! ;D

Was a bit wary upon trying the clutch initially in case it was slipping but its fine ;D

Coachworks next to my work are going to do a cheap job on my drivers door too!! ;D

right I'm off to put my lottery numbers on!! ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: 24v 4x4 Scorpio Estate
Post by Highlander on Apr 27^th, 2011, 9:22pm

I did discover the aircon needs regassed!!

I might drive it round to the sellers house and complain! ;)

Title: Re: 24v 4x4 Scorpio Estate
Post by Mike H on Apr 28^th, 2011, 6:25pm

lol .. http://livinginthepast-audioweb.co.uk/images/misc/laugh.gif

Title: Re: 24v 4x4 Scorpio Estate
Post by Dave2302 on May 2^nd, 2011, 10:27am

Result Stuart,

............................

Right, well now hooligan around in it until the MOT runs out or you crash it, then air gun it all apart and get that 24V Cossie Estate built ;)

Or bring it for a good run up to Inverinate for the weekend, with a boot full of bits ;D ;D ;D

Cheers Dave

Title: Re: 24v 4x4 Scorpio Estate
Post by Highlander on May 2^nd, 2011, 10:50am

I'll be keeping this one Dave, its minty mint :)

However I took it on a 300 mile trip yesterday and I kept stopping to look for a fuel leak!! It seems to just eat petrol. ;D

Good fun though ;D ;D

Title: Re: 24v 4x4 Scorpio Estate
Post by Dave2302 on May 6^th, 2011, 11:35am

The fuel will be going out the exhaust pipe lol,

My 24V 4X4 Sierra Saffy use to eat the stuff ;)

http://i947.photobucket.com/albums/ad318/Dave2302/24vCosworthSapphire005.jpg

Cheers Dave

Title: Re: 24v 4x4 Scorpio Estate
Post by Dave2302 on May 6^th, 2011, 11:38am

Bloody pics still don't come out ;D

Title: Re: 24v 4x4 Scorpio Estate
Post by lesterlad aka Rodders on May 6^th, 2011, 1:47pm

on 05/06/11 at 11:38:55, Dave2302 wrote:

Bloody pics still don't come out ;D

I've been having problems with Photobucket of late.
Try ImageShack............works everytime for me.

http://imageshack.us/

Title: Re: 24v 4x4 Scorpio Estate
Post by Highlander on May 6^th, 2011, 2:02pm

I sorted it for you Dave ;)

i dunno much about autoboxes but I can sort out internet pics ;D

If you change the [ IMG ] and [ /IMG ] at either end of the photobucket picture link to lower case [ img ] it works

Title: Re: 24v 4x4 Scorpio Estate
Post by Dave2302 on May 6^th, 2011, 2:09pm

Ah........

Cheers Stuart ;)

Title: Re: 24v 4x4 Scorpio Estate
Post by Highlander on Jul 5^th, 2011, 10:06am

The slowest Scorpio project ever moved slightly forward last night :)

3.92 ratio 7" rear limited slip differential from a 2 litre Sierra XR4x4 fitted to the early type Scorpio rear subframe surprisingly easily in place of the standard 7.5" diff

As the 7" Sierra diff only comes with 100mm drive pinions and the LSD versions are shorter anyway I have had to use the original drive pinions and just replaced the 108mm driveshafts (car was a diesel) with 100mm ones from a 16v Scorpio.

Just for info, the 100mm driveshafts from the 16v's are interchangeable with the 108mm driveshafts from the V6 and diesel, same lengths and spline fitting.

Also the shafts themselves seem the same size, I always thought the 108mm shafts were a wider diameter but they look identical, need to get the calipers out to verify that though

Title: Re: 24v 4x4 Scorpio Estate
Post by Dave2302 on Jul 5^th, 2011, 10:28am

OOOOOOH,

If theres a spare pair of 108mm's going, stick 'em in my bits box ;) (I've no spare rear shafts for me spares crate) ;)

Have you got a 3.92 front yet ?

I've only got 2, but if you're stuck you can borrow my "spare" and replace it when one comes along at sensible money !!

I've got my eye out for you, but the 3rd one I thought I was gonna get, guy asked 200 quid for, needless to say he's stil got it LOLOLOLOL

Cheers Dave

Title: Re: 24v 4x4 Scorpio Estate
Post by Highlander on Jul 5^th, 2011, 10:46am

I've put away two pairs of shafts for you Dave ;)

Did the diff flanges arrive yet?

I fitted another two 108's onto this 3.91 diff for you.

Not got a front diff for this one yet but still looking, no rush though, its taken me two years to get to this stage so I probably won't need it for another couple of years ;D

Title: Re: 24v 4x4 Scorpio Estate
Post by Scorpio_Mike on Jul 5^th, 2011, 9:48pm

Might have a 3.92 front diff in the shed...will be Friday before I get a chance to check though.

Title: Re: 24v 4x4 Scorpio Estate
Post by Simmo on Jul 6^th, 2011, 6:41am

It will take that time to set up the 'Elf and Safety ' system to get you in and out !!. ;D

(Sorry Gozz. beat you to it !! ;D )

Title: Re: 24v 4x4 Scorpio Estate
Post by gozz on Jul 6^th, 2011, 8:15am

He'd be better off sending the missus in with a mobile phone and emergency rations ;D

Title: Re: 24v 4x4 Scorpio Estate
Post by Highlander on Jul 6^th, 2011, 9:31am

Did you mean you're going into the shed on Friday or did you head in last night but won't reach the diff till Friday? ;D

Title: Re: 24v 4x4 Scorpio Estate
Post by Dave2302 on Jul 6^th, 2011, 10:57am

on 07/05/11 at 10:46:09, Highlander wrote:

Ahhhh ye're a wee smasher so ye are ;)

Anyway, offers there LOL if you need a front one.

Flanges arrived yesterday thanks, pm me to let me know post cost and I'll Paypal ya ;)

I can finish building my Hybrid 4.27 LSD 7.5" Rear diff now ;D ;D

Don't forget to buy a "Reyland" stiffener plate for the front diff, about 45 squid off EBay, but Reyland reckon they put 800 HP through them and haven't blown a front one up since fitting the plates.

The other thing I found is used front diffs always need at least one bearing and the backlash re setting ;)

I've rebuilt both my 3.92 fronts and used Stiffener plates.

FWIW, and I know you're really busy, but I've done Sierra 2wd to 4WD 24V in 2 - 3 weekends ;)

Including wiring 'em ;)

Cheers

Dave

Title: Re: 24v 4x4 Scorpio Estate
Post by Highlander on Jul 6^th, 2011, 11:09am

Cheers Dave :)

This car is at the the back of my shed (an old byre) which is four cars deep and three cars wide so it doesnt get looked at too often ;)

BUT got another one stripped and ready to scrap last night so i'm getting there! ;D

Title: Re: 24v 4x4 Scorpio Estate
Post by Dave2302 on Jul 7^th, 2011, 2:52pm

Don't forget to save the 15" steel wheels LOL I need at least 6 for my gravel tyres, pref 8 ;)

Cheers Dave.

ps are you imminent yet ? ;)

Title: Re: 24v 4x4 Scorpio Estate
Post by Highlander on Jul 8^th, 2011, 4:25pm

I'm just about to take this engine out for you, hopefully this weekend then i' should ready to come up..

I may be doing the support vehicle thing from Fort William to Inverness next month so if I can tie it in with that would be ideal!

Title: Re: 24v 4x4 Scorpio Estate
Post by Dave2302 on Jul 8^th, 2011, 5:37pm

Sounds good to me ;)

Cheers Dave

Title: Re: 24v 4x4 Scorpio Estate
Post by Mike H on Jul 11^th, 2011, 5:38pm

on 07/06/11 at 09:31:00, Highlander wrote:

Did you mean you're going into the shed on Friday or did you head in last night but won't reach the diff till Friday? ;D

http://livinginthepast-audioweb.co.uk/images/misc/thlaugh.gif

Problee didn't help when the native porters did a bit of a vanish in the middle of the night

Title: Re: 24v 4x4 Scorpio Estate
Post by Highlander on Aug 4^th, 2011, 11:05am

Wee update but slightly off topic :)

the £200 estate I bought for spares on page 2 breezed through its MOT yesterday.

MOT inspector said he couldn't fault it on anything and its in better condition underneath than most of the cars coming in for their first MOT! ;D

Must be about due for someone to run into the back of it now then!

http://i51.tinypic.com/2w5vrsk.jpg

Title: Re: 24v 4x4 Scorpio Estate
Post by Mike H on Aug 4^th, 2011, 6:46pm

Extraordinary!

Title: Re: 24v 4x4 Scorpio Estate
Post by Scorpio_Mike on Apr 3^rd, 2012, 9:20am

Seen the pics on TV this morning of all the snow in Scotland...which reminded me - how is your Scorpio 4x4 project progressing ???