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(Message started by: tonyboy on Dec 17th, 2009, 6:43pm)
Title: Last built scorpio
Post by tonyboy on Dec 17th, 2009, 6:43pm
Anyone seen a Y reg Scorpio............. http://passionford.com/forum/restorations-rebuilds-and-projects/294948-the-last-scorpio-cosworth-ever-built.html#post4090192
Title: Re: Last built scorpio
Post by scorpio_man on Dec 17th, 2009, 8:31pm
aye!!!!!!!!!!

and i've seen that one in the flesh!!

http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=;action=viewprofile;username=amigafan2003
Title: Re: Last built scorpio
Post by tonyboy on Dec 17th, 2009, 10:46pm
Has it been re- registered.or is it a 2001 model........... thought the last one was made in 1998 ..........
Title: Re: Last built scorpio
Post by Baz on Dec 17th, 2009, 11:57pm
It is a long story but it was originally registered in 1998 and due to a DVLA c ock up ended up with a Y plate instead of an R or S plate!! ;D
Title: Re: Last built scorpio
Post by gozz on Dec 18th, 2009, 12:06am
Wasn't that Big Neil's car up in Cumbria ? it used to have an external wind deflector on the sunroof.That is a Leicester registration.
Title: Re: Last built scorpio
Post by Baz on Dec 18th, 2009, 12:15am
It was indeed. It's had more owners than Portsmouth FC as well I think!!

I think the guy on the passionford forum really thinks it was the last one ever made!! ;D A good sales pitch I bet!!
Title: Re: Last built scorpio
Post by Jonnycab on Dec 18th, 2009, 1:23am
Is the guy on the Passionford site not 'amigafan' then ?
Title: Re: Last built scorpio
Post by adam on Dec 18th, 2009, 12:43pm
This made me giggle  ;D  between two members on passionford site that amiga/combat wrote on,


MATCOS wrote, "Sticking a badge on the back does not make it a Cosworth
It had some work done to the engine by Cosworth, it is not a Cosworth
Cosworth have worked on quite a few car engines over the years, fairly recenty
they worked on the B5 Audi RS4, is that a Cosworth, no.
The car above is a 2.9 24v Scorpio and was never badged as a Cosworth.
It had a small Cosworth badge on the Engine that is all.

People jump on the Cosworth bandwagon when ever they can, the old 190E Merc's is another prime candidate, they had engine work done and are known as Cosworth Merc's but they aren't Cosworths".


Supramat2000 then replied,
Quote:
"you ought to **** off mate, people jump on the cosworth bandwagon, you ****. the bloke was just showing us what is thought to be the last scorpio. what ****s me off is people like you that are on here and think this site says passioncosworth.com, well it ***kin don't it says passionford.com and for your information the granada and scorpio had work done on the engines and the suspension. but regardless, it still says cosworth on the engine so it is a cosworth. its ford that decided to not use the cosworth name because it was seen to be a luxury car not a high performance car, cosworth formula 1 cars are cosworth but there not running a 2.0 YB with a turbo you bloody pompass ****, the 2.9 24v had the whole engine reworked by cosworth, but the bottom end was seen to be strong enough, so they just slightly modified it and made cosworth quad cam heads for it. and besides, it still says FORD on the back the same as yours "
edited for language
;D


This site is far more reserved than some others :D
Title: Re: Last built scorpio
Post by Highlander on Dec 18th, 2009, 3:15pm
I suspect MATCOS has an Escort or a Sierra and believes no other form of Cosworth exists then?  ;D

The Granada was officially marketed as a Cosworth and as I believe the omission of the Cosworth badge on the Scorpio was only in an effort to reduce car crime the Scorpio is also a Cosworth :)
Title: Re: Last built scorpio
Post by tootman318 on Dec 18th, 2009, 5:29pm
surely any car engine thats been worked on by cosworth is known as;; whatever cosworth. ie  sierra cos, scorpio cos. wording bit strong i know but totally agree with potty mouths reply!! }{
Title: Re: Last built scorpio
Post by Tons_of_fun on Dec 18th, 2009, 9:30pm
I had a similar argument with a guy a few weeks back. He had a sierra cosworth & took great delight in telling me it wasnt a real cossie. " All they have done is fit some heads to an ancient block " he said. " so what is your YB then " ??? Was my reply. Just a head on an ancient block with a blower bolted on, because without it you cant make 200 hp  >:(. Nothing winds me up more than so called 'experts' giving there opinion when it's not asked for. Do you think it's sour grapes that there sierras have the same level of performance as our beloved scorpios, but have to pay 5 times more  ::) Guys like him should just suck it up...Rant over  ;) ;D ;D
Title: Re: Last built scorpio
Post by tootman318 on Dec 18th, 2009, 10:09pm

on 12/18/09 at 21:30:43, Tons_of_fun wrote:
I had a similar argument with a guy a few weeks back. He had a sierra cosworth & took great delight in telling me it wasnt a real cossie. " All they have done is fit some heads to an ancient block " he said. " so what is your YB then " ??? Was my reply. Just a head on an ancient block with a blower bolted on, because without it you cant make 200 hp  >:(. Nothing winds me up more than so called 'experts' giving there opinion when it's not asked for. Do you think it's sour grapes that there sierras have the same level of performance as our beloved scorpios, but have to pay 5 times more  ::) Guys like him should just suck it up...Rant over  ;) ;D ;D

well said young man!! []
Title: Re: Last built scorpio
Post by Tons_of_fun on Dec 19th, 2009, 10:05am
Young man  :o :o :o. Your my friend for life now  ;) ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Last built scorpio
Post by gozz on Dec 19th, 2009, 4:53pm
But you ARE a young man,ask Simmo  8)
                             GOZZ.
Title: Re: Last built scorpio
Post by amigafan2003 on Dec 19th, 2009, 5:09pm
I love winding the folks of Passionford up - bunch of conceited t**ts.

Took the "last one" hook line and sinker :-)

Build date is July 1998 - pretty late but probably not the last one.  Was an S-reg originally but registered as a Y reg when the private plate was removed.  DVLA's mistake is my gain :-)


Quote:
it used to have an external wind deflector on the sunroof.


Yup - took it off as I didn't like it.


Quote:
It was indeed. It's had more owners than Portsmouth FC as well I think!!


Log book says no. of former keepers 2 since Aug 2001.

So I think you can add +1 before it was re-registered.
Title: Re: Last built scorpio
Post by PJDavis on Dec 19th, 2009, 5:52pm
Who cares what other people think of their cars?   I've got a few cars and Bikes, none of which are particularly stunning, but I like them all and that's what really matters.   My Fav' is my old Mk4 Zodiac Executive, but I still get funny looks when I say that!   People are Sooooo funny.  :P
Title: Re: Last built scorpio
Post by Baz on Dec 19th, 2009, 8:27pm
Aww I love the MK 4 Zodiacs..... My dad nearly bought one once, a lovely K reg Roman Bronze example.... but when he got there to buy it, it had been sold. :(

Anyway, a few weeks later, the salesman phoned dad and said that the car was back at the garage and would he still be interested..... the only problem was that the car had been respayed..... in pink!!!

Needless to say he never bothered and bought his first MK1 Granada instead!

Personally I like my Corsairs.... I have just bought a one owner from new with 1980 miles on the clock!! It still has the "Running In" sticker in the back window!
Title: Re: Last built scorpio
Post by amigafan2003 on Dec 19th, 2009, 10:50pm
Came up really good after a clay bar and wax.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v25/amigafan2003/100_2768.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v25/amigafan2003/100_2769.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v25/amigafan2003/100_2770.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v25/amigafan2003/100_2771.jpg
Title: Re: Last built scorpio
Post by tonyboy on Dec 20th, 2009, 1:15am
Nice looking scorp. do you still have it... is that a cosworth badge on the back.... thought they were de-badged... and who has the youngest Scorpio on here... Just seen one on ebay Jan 1999 ........... Item No 260525538184
Title: Re: Last built scorpio
Post by Jonnycab on Dec 20th, 2009, 1:25am
Tonyboy, the one on Ebay is an R reg facelift, so it's a 1998......1999 is most likely a typo error  ;)
Title: Re: Last built scorpio
Post by amigafan2003 on Dec 21st, 2009, 7:35am

Quote:
Nice looking scorp. do you still have it... is that a cosworth badge on the back.... thought they were de-badged...


Yup - drove to work in it in the snow today.

As yes, they were de-badged and yes, that is a Cosworth badge on the back.
Title: Re: Last built scorpio
Post by big_neil on Dec 21st, 2009, 12:31pm
yes that was my car, baz says more owners than portsmouth! one irish chap before me bought it new ,then me and i,ve lost touch after that.the leices. reg is because i bought it there with an irish plate on and it was re-reg in leices. area.
my wife is responsible for the "Y"plate
(first reg nov. 1998)
it does not need a cosworth badge on the bootlid,it says so on both front lower wings!
Title: Re: Last built scorpio
Post by amigafan2003 on Dec 21st, 2009, 1:21pm
Interestingly Neil - did you notice the recpt in the folder for "1x Cosworth tailgate badge - trim option - fitted - £24" dated 1998.

Seems like it had the bootlid badge when it was delivered from the show room - so Ive only returned it to showroom condition :-)  The orig probably had been nicked - I doubt there is a Sapph/Escort cossie out there with the original bootlid badge.

Regards owners:-

The irish chap from new
then big_neil
then Savvy
then me.

That's only four owners (even though it says two prev on the V5 :-)


Quote:
it does not need a cosworth badge on the bootlid,it says so on both front lower wings!


Doesn't say Cosworth on mine - says 24v on the wings.
Title: Re: Last built scorpio
Post by Baz on Dec 21st, 2009, 9:31pm

on 12/21/09 at 12:31:14, big_neil wrote:
baz says more owners than portsmouth!


I was joking when I said that you know!!
Title: Re: Last built scorpio
Post by big_neil on Dec 26th, 2009, 1:17pm
exactly!!
Title: Re: Last built scorpio
Post by pete from Hull on Dec 28th, 2009, 12:24am
I think my car that Gozz has got is probably one of the last ones built, it was reg'd in 1999 but I think it was built in 98, Gozz may be able to confirm it.... ;)

Pete
Title: Re: Last built scorpio
Post by pete from Hull on Dec 28th, 2009, 12:27am

on 12/19/09 at 22:50:35, amigafan2003 wrote:
Came up really good after a clay bar and wax.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v25/amigafan2003/100_2768.jpg


That looks one lovely looking car Amigafan, you can take PRIDE in your efforts.... Drooool Drooool I wana Scorp again..... }{ }{ }{
Pete
Title: Re: Last built scorpio
Post by gozz on Dec 28th, 2009, 1:12pm
Pete.
Your old car is prefacelift built in June 97,and registered in January 99.Must have been another one of those that stood in a field for so long.There was a compound just down the A1 from here full of them,hence many were registered in Peterborough LVLO and were various,what were Cambridgeshire numbers ,FL,EG,CE,AV,EW etc.
                                         GOZZ.
Title: Re: Last built scorpio
Post by PJDavis on Dec 28th, 2009, 10:58pm
So, the last registered car was?   And the last known car off the production line sold to a customer was?   Were there many after August '98?    ;D
Title: Re: Last built scorpio
Post by amigafan2003 on Dec 30th, 2009, 10:49am
Mine was built July 1998 according to the Vin plate (code WK).  What is interesting is that production was supposed to have ended in June 1998!

Amusingly enough, I had an S reg Cossie Ultima that had a build date of April 1997 - so that was another late registered one.
Title: Re: Last built scorpio
Post by Highlander on Dec 30th, 2009, 11:53am

on 12/30/09 at 10:49:19, amigafan2003 wrote:
Mine was built July 1998 according to the Vin plate (code WK).  What is interesting is that production was supposed to have ended in June 1998!

Amusingly enough, I had an S reg Cossie Ultima that had a build date of April 1997 - so that was another late registered one.



Something not quite right there Amigafan, July 98 was WM.

WK is February 1979!  ;D

Possibly VK October 97?

I'm sure I checked this one out for Big Neil and it wasnt a late build, will have a look tonite again
Title: Re: Last built scorpio
Post by Highlander on Dec 30th, 2009, 12:12pm

on 12/28/09 at 22:58:55, PJDavis wrote:
So, the last registered car was?   And the last known car off the production line sold to a customer was?   Were there many after August '98?    ;D



As far as I can ascertain, the last Scorpio built was registered in Germany, a 2.3 auto Ultima saloon in Moondust silver.

The last built UK one was a Ghia diesel auto saloon in Noveau Red
Title: Re: Last built scorpio
Post by scorpio_man on Dec 30th, 2009, 3:22pm
hi there

re last built scorpio.

iirc, it was available in to mid 1999 as a special order only.

that's not to say it was built then, just it was still available to order from the dealer.

hth
Title: Re: Last built scorpio
Post by Highlander on Dec 31st, 2009, 9:42am
Amigafan, your reg number comes up as a June 98 build (WU) not (WK) can you check your VIN?

I have one which shows as a June build though the VIN says WJ (May) but in the number sequence its later than yours (Maybe got lost in the factory) :)

Now assuming the number sequence relates to production then I know of four other 24v's built after mine and Baz had one built later than all these.

So yours is at least the 7th last 24th built I know of.
Title: Re: Last built scorpio
Post by amigafan2003 on Dec 31st, 2009, 10:56am
Just checked - it is WU - don't know where the K came from?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v25/amigafan2003/IMAG0069.jpg
Title: Re: Last built scorpio
Post by adam on Dec 31st, 2009, 6:00pm
One of my facelifted Cossies has a WU Jun 98 build date.
I have read the VIN plate info on the site. I presume the last four digits are chronological sequence of build then?
Title: Re: Last built scorpio
Post by a900one on Jan 1st, 2010, 1:57pm
I think mine is april 98 , its wt on the vin plate, is that right?.  The reg is R678 BCR.
Title: Re: Last built scorpio
Post by gozz on Jan 1st, 2010, 9:29pm
Srite !
Title: Re: Last built scorpio
Post by Cosray on Jan 4th, 2010, 12:00pm
Hi all, this was my 1st Cosworth, delivered on June 11, 1998, supposedly the last Scorpio then supplied to The Netherlands.


It had full specs and leather including sunroof. It was built in Genk (B), probably because of the Cosworth specs. Never let me down for 3 years (30-01-2001) and 60,000 miles/100,000 km.

As it was a leased companycar it had to go then, sadly, as there was no similar replacement available.

Apparently it is still running around for 11.6 years as shown by current Dutch RDW APK (MOT) data, due April 20, 2010:
Datum eerste toelating        11-06-1998 (11,6 jaar)
Datum aanvang laatste tenaamstelling     30-01-2001  (8,9 jaar)
Status kenteken     Geldig

Never thought of photographing its VIN-plate at the time...
Ray


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