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(Message started by: tlundkvi on Jan 14^th, 2010, 7:42am)

Title: MOT tomorrow
Post by tlundkvi on Jan 14^th, 2010, 7:42am

So it's time to MOT the scorp again tomorrow.

Fortunately this time it won't be the emissions :)

IDLE
RPM 860
CO 0.093
CO2 14.41
O2 0.25
HC 51
Lambda 1.006

REVS
RPM 2310
CO 0.083
CO2 14.37
O2 0.31
HC 6
Lambda 1.012

I'll report how it went tomorrow :)

Title: Re: MOT tomorrow
Post by Tons_of_fun on Jan 14^th, 2010, 8:26am

Best of luck chap :)

Title: Re: MOT tomorrow
Post by PJDavis on Jan 14^th, 2010, 4:23pm

Always a worrying time, best of luck. 8)

Title: Re: MOT tomorrow
Post by tlundkvi on Jan 14^th, 2010, 4:58pm

Which reminds me I have to downgrade to H1's instead of Xenons for a day (Finnish law).

Title: Re: MOT tomorrow
Post by Tekno on Jan 15^th, 2010, 11:53am

tension intensifies

Title: Re: MOT tomorrow
Post by tlundkvi on Jan 15^th, 2010, 2:39pm

And it failed :(

Seized RHS handbrake mechanism (other braking tests perfectly even). Worst case scenario a new caliper, which would be no problem for me.

And to the disaster: on the left side, the chassis had a bad rust hole quite close to where the rear arm+subframe is. And from that spot a crack of 15 cm. It can be repaired, but we came to the conclusion the subframe might need to be taken off to get to it. Plus the fuel tank off for safety. 1-2 days work. The problem has been there for atleast a couple of years. It had been concealed with 1 cm layer of rust protection. I was too shocked to remember to take pictures...

Good thing is it can be repaired. Wallet will get lighter, that's for sure. But for what has been done with it, no way I'll break it.

Otherwise only positive remarks, suspension & steering, no problems, no advisories.

Title: Re: MOT tomorrow
Post by Highlander on Jan 15^th, 2010, 3:35pm

Yours is a saloon isnt it?

Usually a problem on the estate but i have seen a couple of saloons go in the same place too, hope it wont be off the road too long :)

Title: Re: MOT tomorrow
Post by tlundkvi on Jan 15^th, 2010, 3:46pm

Saloon it is. It had been so well concealed it had passed several MOT's before. It's not from my time. My own bet is more in the range of 2-3 days. Luckily the place is reasonably priced :)

Stuart, you are the subframe expert (at least when replacing springs). How much work is it (in worst case) to take off the subframe? It needs to drop by a foot I guess to completely weld it.

Title: Re: MOT tomorrow
Post by Highlander on Jan 15^th, 2010, 4:01pm

I usually drop it and leave the propshaft, exhaust and rear brake flexi pipes etc still attached, you only have the length of the flexipipes to play with but it wil give you enough room to weld, especially if you only need to get at one side.

basically i do the following:

lower the exhaust by unhooking the rubbers

three bolts at either side of the car holding the subframe to the body

Bolt or bolts (depending on which mount type it has) that hold the diff to the body

rear antiroll bar

shock absorber bolts

You probably SHOULD remove it completely but I've always managed doing it this way and it saves a LOT of time.

Never removed the fuel tank, although it is pretty close depending on where exactly you will be welding.

but the fuel pipes themselves actually run down that left side chassis rail where you will be welding, not difficult to pop them off but the clips usually break, get the cable ties out ;)

Title: Re: MOT tomorrow
Post by tlundkvi on Jan 15^th, 2010, 5:30pm

Thanks for the advice. It is exactly like this (http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/cracks.htm) but on the part of the LHS image (2nd) behind the subframe.

Title: Re: MOT tomorrow
Post by Simmo on Jan 16^th, 2010, 8:07am

I had a similar problem on my estate some while back and it was repaired,in the way Stuart describes, by a local garage on a Saturday morning. The rear brake lever can sometimes be released by using a wrench on the lever and plenty of WD40. If you undo the bolt holding the arm on to the caliper slightly,say two or three turns and then tap it up and down that also helps. Go easy and don't fully release the bolt or you'll have a job to re-fit it without releasing the handbrake cable from its fixing points under the car. They are tucked under the heat shields and are just a pest to get at and release. If the WD40 fails then a replacement caliper is the answer. ;)
Go to the Problems page and look at the first post. There are a set of Stuarts photographs there which show the internals of a caliper (my old one). The shaft to which the handbrake lever is fixed CANNOT be lifted out because of the small 'peg' at the bottom. It is this 'peg' which actuates the main shaft when the handbrake lever is turned. ;)

Title: Re: MOT tomorrow
Post by tlundkvi on Jan 17^th, 2010, 10:30am

Thanks Simmo for the advice. I had a braking power of 2,0/2,0kN rear so I assume handbrake overhaul with a kit is sufficient in case it doesn't release.

Title: Re: MOT tomorrow
Post by tlundkvi on Jan 18^th, 2010, 9:22am

Got a fixed quote for all troubles (handbrake+crack): 400 euros. Must say it is not bad, expected much worse :) This quote I dare to tell my wife.

Title: Re: MOT tomorrow
Post by amigafan2003 on Jan 18^th, 2010, 10:56am

That sounds very good - that's about £350 - very reasonable.

Title: Re: MOT tomorrow
Post by tlundkvi on Jan 18^th, 2010, 12:45pm

Indeed. This job could easily be more than the double if you have bad luck. And many would not have given a fixed price offer for the job either, considering the steps involved.

Title: Re: MOT tomorrow
Post by tlundkvi on Jan 19^th, 2010, 5:03pm

Work progresses, the crack is welded perfectly, now they just need to put everything back for tomorrow.

Title: Re: MOT tomorrow
Post by tlundkvi on Jan 22^nd, 2010, 2:17pm

MOT passed!

Title: Re: MOT tomorrow
Post by Highlander on Jan 22^nd, 2010, 3:06pm

Good stuff! :)

Now you can start worrying about the next one! ;D