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(Message started by: Highlander on Oct 19^th, 2010, 11:20pm)

Title: No Smoking Rule
Post by Highlander on Oct 19^th, 2010, 11:20pm

Just a little note to anyone not in the know..

If you drive a company vehicle, van, car, lorry etc it must display a No Smoking sign.

The Police have been stopping a load of work vans in our area and handing out £200 on the spot fines for anyone not displaying one.

Even if its your own car/van and you dont smoke, if its for business use you need to have one.

Title: Re: No Smoking Rule
Post by Jonnycab on Oct 20^th, 2010, 4:00am

I know ;).....I have to have them them on all passenger door windows so they are clearly seen when getting into the vehicle.

Bloody liberty....I can't even have a roll-up in the car on my way home after a long night....well I'm not supposed to anyway ;)

Not sure why this country has stuck to these 'Brussels' laws so strictly, 'cos it's killing many businesses like country pubs etc. They've got to turn into swanky, yuppie/hooray henry attracting gastro pubs just to stay alive >:( .......while the old regulars sit at home (about the only place you're allowed to smoke now), sipping beer from cans bought from the local Tesco extra while contemplating life & wondering what they've done wrong to suddenly be exiled from their local.

Other countries in the EU aren't so strict....Spain for example have the same laws, but they tend not to take much notice of them & they aren't heavily enforced. To do so would put a big burden on the already fragile economy as tourists numbers would no doubt dwindle.

My folks live in Spain & I've been going there for a few years now & since the Europe wide smoking ban came into force on July 1st 2007, I've not gone into one single bar that has a smoking ban. The local government for that area couldn't give a rats ass about Brussels legislation, because they know it would seriously affect their tourism industry.

Sorry to carry on, but this fascist style smoking ban in this country is a joke. Fair enough, non smokers don't want to be have to breath in cigarette smoke, which I can understand. But we have had smoking areas in pubs, bars & restaurants for years that have had perfectly adequate air conditioning & smoke extraction systems so as not to affect the non-smoker.

Okay, so if it's not a non-smoker argument, then it's a cost to the tax payer argument. Smokers are a burden on the NHS & it costs £3 billion a year to treat smoking related illnesses in hospitals....
Hang on though, the revenue to the treasury from the sale of tobacco products exceeds over £10 billion a year, so surely that argument is floored as well. If everyone gave up smoking, then there would be a £10 billion shortfall, which would mean higher taxes for everyone...smoker or non-smoker alike.

Cigarettes/tobacco/cigars ect is a perfectly legal product to buy, so why is the smoker being made to feel like a pariah in society. Drinking isn't viewed in the same way, even though it is a huge cause of domestic, social & violent problems in society & a massively huge burden on the NHS which literally dwarfs the smoking related illness costs......A&E on a Friday/Saturday night isn't full of people that have smoked too much ;)

If they...the government or Brussels...consider smoking so heinous, then why don't they bring in legislation that will ban the sale of all tobacco products ?.....hmmmm, I wonder why not ::)

I did hear recently that Mr Cameron was considering a change to the anti-smoking laws so businesses would be able to make a choice whether they wanted to enforce a smoking ban. But I suppose that was just heresay...a bit like his pre-election promise to bring back road tax exemption for classic vehicles over 25 years old ::)

Title: Re: No Smoking Rule
Post by Mike H on Oct 20^th, 2010, 8:15pm

Long gone are the days when it was mainly just Friday / Saturday nights apparently! Every flippin' night of the week nowadays

I am reminded of a radio news item couple of weeks ago, when the smoking ban hit the pubs, it was expected that the non-smokers would come flooding in instead.

Oh what a surprise, they haven't, what went wrong there then

Title: Re: No Smoking Rule
Post by gozz on Oct 20^th, 2010, 10:33pm

Yes JC,a very true epistle you write,I haven't smoked for about twenty years,but have always enjoyed the atmosphere of a good pub with plenty of banter and a smoky haze,that's what a boozer is/was all about,now more than half of my pals both male and female sit outside in the smoking shelter,excommunicated from the few of us who are allowed to sit inside in comfort,we only get a quick witty bit of repartee with them when they venture in to buy their drinks,only to creep back like lepers to their 'unclean' lair in the yard :(
My funeral cars MUST have no smoking stickers in,I've been busy removing them from any vehicles acquired with them in,big conglomerates of course having owned them before,no one wanting to be the fall guy when the no smoking sign police come calling ::)
Loadacobblers guv,gitsup menose,after all we are British...........aren't we ??
GOZZ.

Title: Re: No Smoking Rule
Post by Jonnycab on Oct 22^nd, 2010, 3:15pm

on 10/20/10 at 22:33:10, gozz wrote:

Yes JC,a very true epistle you write

Well...when the mood takes you ;)

Title: Re: No Smoking Rule
Post by tonyboy on Oct 24^th, 2010, 12:57pm

The pubs should bring back the snug and bar. If you want to smoke you go in the bar, if you don't you go into the snug. This country makes my blood boil with what they do, wer'e not an empire no more wer'e just a puppet on a string, and with all the cuts the're doing, i hav'nt heared one mention to cut foriegn aid, to Africa, India, America, and who knows who else, and something else what gets me going is some country has a tragedy and every ones out collecting money for them, we have a tragedy like Brancaster, or when Northampton got flooded, A Lot of these people lost all of there possesions, No one came round collecting for those people..... GGGGGGGGRRRRRRRRRRRR

Title: Re: No Smoking Rule
Post by rich1 on Oct 25^th, 2010, 7:58pm

jonny cab is right about spain , got back from tenerife yesterday and pretty much every bar lets you have an oilly with a drink , all very nice , just how it should be !!!
i cant smoke in my sherbert and apparently i cant even smoke leaning on the cab while im on a rank!!!
im pretty sure the old bill have got more important things to worry about than a fella having a cigarette after a hard days work ........................the worlds gone mad !! think im moving to tenerife , much more civillised :)

Title: Re: No Smoking Rule
Post by Tenfut on Oct 25^th, 2010, 8:14pm

But ............

The law is changing in Spain on 2nd January ( should have been 1st but the government agreed a concession so as not to spoil New Years Eve!!) They will then have the same restrictions as we do.

I too have just come back from Mallorca where I know several bar owners who are all against the change
in the law. I am a non smoker myself but I honestly sympathise with those who wish to light up in a bar but are forced to stand outside. I somehow have a feeling that the Spaniards wont take this lying down.

Tony

Title: Re: No Smoking Rule
Post by rich1 on Oct 26^th, 2010, 8:00pm

my old man lives in spain , theyve had a smoking ban already , but no one takes a blind bit of notice

Title: Re: No Smoking Rule
Post by a900one on Oct 26^th, 2010, 9:07pm

Thanks highlander, was not aware that I could be fined for not having the sticker put up, none of the engineers where I work smokes. I have just been out to the van and stuck it on the dash.

Title: Re: No Smoking Rule
Post by Mike H on Oct 27^th, 2010, 12:45pm

When's the revolution then? ;D

Dunno about anyone else but I've got a political manifesto a mile long

The country's feet would not touch the ground....