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(Message started by: ro284 on Jul 2^nd, 2011, 4:05pm)

Title: Workshop in the garden?
Post by ro284 on Jul 2^nd, 2011, 4:05pm

My son wants his own workshop in his garden! i can build it, a wooden structure. about 14ft six. by 28ft long. shallow pitch roof. opening doors at front and back, to drive through so that he can work on his collection of cars. he has a very large garden, has anyone done this? as its wood built (concrete floor) are there any planning issues at all? any advice gratefully recieved. Thanks

Title: Re: Workshop in the garden?
Post by Geoff_W on Jul 2^nd, 2011, 7:13pm

Usually depends on how close to boundaries, generally the local council will have some guidance up on the internet.

In some cases it would need planning permission though it may just be covered by building control regulations, which will give you the standard you need to build to etc.,

Good Luck

Title: Re: Workshop in the garden?
Post by gozz on Jul 2^nd, 2011, 8:29pm

I extended my domestic garage some years ago into my back garden,the rule was that I could do within reason anything as long as the total building area,including the residence didn't cover more than half the curtilage.There is also a minimum distance from the residence if the garage is separate.This covered a brick garage as well as a 'temporary' building,the latter not being affected by building regs at all.Ring his local council planners,they will enlighten you.
GOZZ.

Title: Re: Workshop in the garden?
Post by Dave2302 on Jul 2^nd, 2011, 11:15pm

In England. if it's less than 30 sq m floor area, and under 5m high you can build it without planning ;)

(Unless they changed that in the last 5 years) LOL

HTH

Dave

Title: Re: Workshop in the garden?
Post by Snoopy on Jul 3^rd, 2011, 7:55am

Wooden Structures do not usually need planning permissions, but there is a wealth of information on the internet about the very subject. But from what you described I would say NO PLANNING needed! Ask your local planning officer they are usually very helpful in these matters

Title: Re: Workshop in the garden?
Post by ro284 on Jul 3^rd, 2011, 9:57am

Thanks for replies guys, i will contact local planning department. cheers

Title: Re: Workshop in the garden?
Post by Highlander on Jul 3^rd, 2011, 10:36am

on 07/02/11 at 23:15:13, Dave2302 wrote:

In England. if it's less than 30 sq m floor area, and under 5m high you can build it without planning ;)

(Unless they changed that in the last 5 years) LOL

HTH

Dave

Changed in 2008 ;)

Best to contact the planning dept.

As stated it now all depends on distance from house/boundary and the road

Title: Re: Workshop in the garden?
Post by Dave2302 on Jul 4^th, 2011, 9:32am

on 07/03/11 at 10:36:41, Highlander wrote:

Changed in 2008 ;D

That figures, bloody Engleesh Government change all the good loop holes :(

;D ;D ;D ;D

Cheers Dave

Title: Re: Workshop in the garden?
Post by ro284 on Sep 28^th, 2011, 11:39am

Hi guys, not been on for a while, as regards this flippin workshop, its been built, and pretty big. my lad used to rent a large building in the country but now that is no longer availiable, however he has moved all his cars, some being rebuilt, about 7 so far, into his garden. they wont all fit in his workshop! my concern is that his garden looks a bit like a scrapyard, this is only while he sorts the cars out before moving them on, (some very special!)he is not overlooked, but i am worried someone might be un-happy about this situation, is there anything anyone can do in the way of complaining about all these cars?
Any thoughts appreciated, cheers Ro

Title: Re: Workshop in the garden?
Post by Andycan on Sep 28^th, 2011, 2:35pm

I believe that if someone does complain then the council will come out to look at it and take pictures. If you have a reasonable council official and explain it is temporary they can turn a blind eye. If you get a jobs worth he can take action to force the cars removal but this does take time.
At least a week for the paperwork then sending it to you then they have to give you time to move them. If they are not moved in this time I think they then have to go to court to get a order to remove the cars which can take months. I also believe there are ways you can make the process longer by appealing and applying for temporary permission for the cars etc etc.

Title: Re: Workshop in the garden?
Post by Highlander on Sep 28^th, 2011, 3:24pm

If its his own house and not causing any nuisance (noise/smell/danger) then there's very little anyone can do.

A car with a broken window is classed as dangerous though.

if its just for short term storage he should be fine.

however, if the environment agencies get involved, do an inspection and find ANY oil, fuel, brake fluid etc then its a different matter :-/

Would be worth a quick word with the neighbours first though explaining that it is only a short term thing, they may well be thinking this is just the start of something even bigger! ;D

Title: Re: Workshop in the garden?
Post by gozz on Sep 28^th, 2011, 11:34pm

As we all know,everything boils down to whether or not the bloody envious nosey git observing your property perceives that you may be having a quid,irrespective of any inconvenience or detriment to their way of life.If you are confident that there is no such likely eejit lurking nearby,then all should be well.If as you say Bob,he is not overlooked then it would indeed be a person with little future who would take the trouble to interfere in what is really no business of theirs ::)
GOZZ.

Title: Re: Workshop in the garden?
Post by Highlander on Sep 29^th, 2011, 1:21am

Theres plenty of them about! ;D

Title: Re: Workshop in the garden?
Post by martin_rowe on Sep 29^th, 2011, 8:44am

business, hobby, hire & reward, change of use ect will all come into it. If the cars are sold on then it will be seen as a business, may not have the relivant planning for that type of operation.

Title: Re: Workshop in the garden?
Post by Baz on Sep 29^th, 2011, 7:13pm

Just move some gypsies on part of the land and you've cracked it. No requirements for planning permission of any kind and it will take at least 10 years for the council to start proceedings!! ;D

Title: Re: Workshop in the garden?
Post by ro284 on Sep 29^th, 2011, 8:18pm

Thanks for all your thoughts guys, this really is a hobby for my son, he had trouble at school, told he was thick etc, can't find a job. but he has taught himself to weld, metalwork, bodywork, fabrication, mods etc, he won't sell any of the cars, some of which are as follows, 66 Vauxhall viscount, 3 litre, (one of very few left) a 58 victor FD estate. fitted with jag 4-2 triple carb, made manual. Vaux fd saloon 71 2-9 ultima engine, converted to manual, a 63 vaux FB. 3 litre Essex ENGINE manual. AND A 54 Morris minor Pick up, which was a feature car on a mag front page a few years ago. all in various stages of rebuild, he had the use of an old building right out in the country, but that has to be returned to farm use now,
no doubt he will use my 24v motor in something too,
Cheers Ro

Title: Re: Workshop in the garden?
Post by Highlander on Oct 4^th, 2011, 1:12pm

Actually now I come to think about it...

I've usually got three cars on the drive and two parked on the road in front of the house!

And some of them are not the most aesthetically pleasing on the eye! ;D

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