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(Message started by: Daniel on Jan 22nd, 2014, 5:40pm)
Title: Its back for sale, unregistered mk1
Post by Daniel on Jan 22nd, 2014, 5:40pm
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-GRANADA-MK1-UNREGISTERED-2-0GL-MANUAL-ONLY-129-MILES-GENUINE-/231142658886?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item35d12d1346
Title: Re: Its back for sale, unregistered mk1
Post by gozz on Jan 23rd, 2014, 9:10am

on 01/22/14 at 17:40:13, Daniel wrote:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-GRANADA-MK1-UNREGISTERED-2-0GL-MANUAL-ONLY-129-MILES-GENUINE-/231142658886?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item35d12d1346


Looks as if the high bidder is determined to have it,the body may be sound but it's going to be a labour of love to put right all the other problems eh  ::)
Title: Re: Its back for sale, unregistered mk1
Post by a900one on Jan 23rd, 2014, 10:47am
I think I know where a doner car may be, thats unless 5 studs brother has got rid of all of his cars.
Title: Re: Its back for sale, unregistered mk1
Post by PJDavis on Jan 23rd, 2014, 12:46pm
Gosh what an old Dog!   I'm mechanically minded and wouldn't touch that with a Barge-Pole.   A labour of love is right, it'd take too much to get that looking good again.   How much would that have been new?
Title: Re: Its back for sale, unregistered mk1
Post by amigafan2003 on Jan 23rd, 2014, 2:05pm

on 01/23/14 at 12:46:43, PJDavis wrote:
Gosh what an old Dog!


Really?  I don't think it looks too bad.
Title: Re: Its back for sale, unregistered mk1
Post by gozz on Jan 23rd, 2014, 8:09pm
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder,especially if he's wearing rose tinted spectacles  ;D
Title: Re: Its back for sale, unregistered mk1
Post by PJDavis on Jan 23rd, 2014, 10:33pm
Another old adage is, "you don't look and the 'Mantle-Piece' when your poking the fire, especially if the coals are hot!    ;D

I remember years ago having an old MK1 Consul 2.5 Estate, and old 'M' reg if I'm not mistaken.   Jeez it was a real old rust-bucket, and it wasn't really that old.   I remember thinking I'd rather have my old Zodi' MK4 back, at least it was still fairly rust free.   Nah, it's a personal thing, but I never really liked the MK1 Granada, I do remember taking my Consul for an MOT and even with the sills like paper-mash, it passed, something to do with the sills not being structural on these cars I think?    It didn't help that it was that horrible light-green colour!
Title: Re: Its back for sale, unregistered mk1
Post by Jonnycab on Jan 26th, 2014, 3:16am
The high bidder is probably a mate trying to bump up the price & you can guarantee that the winning bidder will end up not paying for this piece of fire damaged rubbish that is worth £1500 to £2000 max.

It doesn't even have the 3.0 litre V6 Essex engine in it !!....The 2.0 pinto in a car of this weight would struggle to pull the skin off the proverbial rice pudding....& it doesn't sound very Macho either  ;)

You'd have to be either a bit simple to bid this high....or simply, a bit too high  :P
Title: Re: Its back for sale, unregistered mk1
Post by gozz on Jan 26th, 2014, 7:46pm
JC,has Dan seen a picture of the one you had complete with V6 ? I reckon you should put a picture up for him  8)
Title: Re: Its back for sale, unregistered mk1
Post by Simmo on Jan 27th, 2014, 8:50am
I hope JC doesn't mind but as he's probably sleeping right now I'll post it for him Gozz. ;D

Prepare to be amazed (http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=OT;action=display;num=1250638301;start=0#0). :)
Title: Re: Its back for sale, unregistered mk1
Post by gozz on Jan 27th, 2014, 9:27am

on 01/27/14 at 08:50:56, Simmo wrote:
I hope JC doesn't mind but as he's probably sleeping right now I'll post it for him Gozz. ;D

Prepare to be amazed (http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=OT;action=display;num=1250638301;start=0#0). :)


Thanks Mike,now I see why you are 'one of the trusted'  ;D
The only thing JC may not like is the tears that come to his eyes when fondly remembering the Granny  :'(
Title: Re: Its back for sale, unregistered mk1
Post by Jonnycab on Jan 27th, 2014, 10:40am
Boo Hoo  :'(
Title: Re: Its back for sale, unregistered mk1
Post by Daniel on Jan 27th, 2014, 5:25pm
Very nice  ;D like those alloys alot, look good on a mk1.
How long since you sold it?
Title: Re: Its back for sale, unregistered mk1
Post by Andycan on Jan 27th, 2014, 7:11pm
I  must say the big seats in the Granada Mk1 were very comfy on long trips.
Title: Re: Its back for sale, unregistered mk1
Post by Jonnycab on Feb 4th, 2014, 2:12am
Sold for £5050.50 to a high bidder with only a feedback of 4  ::)

The plot thickens.... ::)

Either it's been bought by an eccentric millionaire who likes throwing money to the wind (if he could throw it my way, then it will be very much appreciated & used to pay off the wolves at my door)....or the high bidder is a patient in an institution for the insane who has managed to gain access to the house computer.....

.....Or of course, it could be a selling scam by the dealer, who will readvertise it again 'due to time wasting high bidder' in order to get a price not necessarily too close to what it supposedly was going to be sold for, but to get a price that is far beyond what it is really worth  ::)

Or am I just being cynical ?  ;)
Title: Re: Its back for sale, unregistered mk1
Post by Simmo on Feb 4th, 2014, 8:29am

on 02/04/14 at 02:12:30, Jonnycab wrote:
Or am I just being cynical ?  ;)


Who would EVER think that about you Jon ?.  ;D ;D  
Title: Re: Its back for sale, unregistered mk1
Post by gozz on Feb 4th, 2014, 9:12am
On a slightly different tack,but a similar dodgy situation,there is a Commer fire engine on ebay that has been sold by the same man several times,it was sold again last week and lo and behold it's back again.He always goes down the 'private bidder' route,like JC I may be cynical,but am always wary of anything advertised  in that way  ::)
Title: Re: Its back for sale, unregistered mk1
Post by Scorpio_Mike on Feb 4th, 2014, 10:13am
Different theory...if someone was restoring a Mk1 Granada, getting hold of a decent rust-free shell for £5k might work out a better / cheaper option than sourcing replacement panels and fixing up a rotten one. Mk1 panels are now HTF and expensive.
If the car was never registered then the shell is effectively 'new' and could probably be used quite legally for a re-shell.
Title: Re: Its back for sale, unregistered mk1
Post by Tompion on Feb 4th, 2014, 12:03pm
The common scam is to offer it to the under bidder saying the high bidder pulled out.
It was much easier to catch these shill bidding scams before eBay hid buyers identities. I’ve had a few kicked off eBay in the past when you could track bidding patterns of the other bidders.
Title: Re: Its back for sale, unregistered mk1
Post by amigafan2003 on Feb 4th, 2014, 9:01pm

on 02/04/14 at 09:12:57, gozz wrote:
On a slightly different tack,but a similar dodgy situation,there is a Commer fire engine on ebay that has been sold by the same man several times,it was sold again last week and lo and behold it's back again.He always goes down the 'private bidder' route,like JC I may be cynical,but am always wary of anything advertised  in that way  ::)


I sold a graphics card 4 times because each time the high bidder failed to pay.
Title: Re: Its back for sale, unregistered mk1
Post by 5stud on Feb 5th, 2014, 10:57am
most went on over exmas but the nice white coupe and the coupe covertabe are still ther .but ther is still loads off spares fore mk1s ther. allso its been back on ebay fore 2days                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      
on 01/23/14 at 10:47:28, a900one wrote:
I think I know where a doner car may be, thats unless 5 studs brother has got rid of all of his cars.

Title: Re: Its back for sale, unregistered mk1
Post by Jonnycab on Feb 6th, 2014, 2:01am

on 02/04/14 at 10:13:19, Scorpio_Mike wrote:
Different theory...if someone was restoring a Mk1 Granada, getting hold of a decent rust-free shell for £5k might work out a better / cheaper option than sourcing replacement panels and fixing up a rotten one. Mk1 panels are now HTF and expensive.
If the car was never registered then the shell is effectively 'new' and could probably be used quite legally for a re-shell.


It doesn't look particularly rust free to me  ;).... & it's obviously been stored outside for a while, so who knows what condition the chassis is in ?.....although, I must admit, most of the body panels do look to be in reasonably good nick with what looks like surface rust....but it's what's underneath that matters....rust does tend to start on the inside & work it's way out  ;)

Body panels aren't that hard to come by....you can still get fibre glass front wings (won't rust) & good metal ones do come up every now & then. New rear wheel arches are about £25 each & you can still buy whole rear quarter panels. You certainly wouldn't have to spend anywhere near £5000 to get any or all of these panels.
Doors, bonnet & boot don't tend to rust that badly, so do also come up on Ebay every so often for a fair price. Bottoms of doors do tend to suffer sometimes though, but new metal can be welded in or if not too bad, can be ground down to bare metal & skimmed over with filler.
The rear seat looks a little beyond repair to me. They only usually get sunbleached & split at the top of the rear part of the seat & not the actual seat itself (more evidence of long term outside storage).

Also, not forgetting the mechanical issues it is likely to have. Having been stored for the whole of it's 38 year life (inside & outside) then I'd have thought practically every moving part would have to be replaced. Most rubber bushes & seals would have surely perished in that time & any part of the drive chain that needs oil would be seized or almost seized due to lack of lubrication.

I wouldn't even like to start making a list of what will need replacing for an MOT & whoever buys it could well end up spending what they bought it for again, just to get it roadworthy  ???

MK1 Granadas aren't that desirable compared to MK1/2/3 Capris, MK1/2 Escorts & tend to fetch far less money.

Usually a fully restored MK1 Granada in pristine condition would fetch around the £5000 mark & £7000 absolute tops  :)
Title: Re: Its back for sale, unregistered mk1
Post by gozz on Feb 6th, 2014, 10:35am
Thus spake the oracle  8) Never were truer words spoken,we all know that lack of use and inactivity applies to mechanical devices as well as the human machine,and if exposed for lengthy periods to the elements a sort of 'bio degrading' takes place and the article eventually returns to the place from whence it came.Low mileage means little,it's the circumstances under which it has been kept that really count,this particular vehicle has obviously been badly neglected,therefore is worth very little because as JC points out resurrection costs would be unthinkable.
Title: Re: Its back for sale, unregistered mk1
Post by Jonnycab on Feb 9th, 2014, 3:42am
Re-listed again for about 2 days & then taken off !!....back up for sale again in a few weeks time ?  ;)


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