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(Message started by: FITZY on Mar 29th, 2004, 1:00am)

Title: Global Closing
Post by FITZY on Mar 29th, 2004, 1:00am
Hi All

Does amyone know if the global closing feature of the Scorpio's should work when using the remote as it does when locking with the key, have heard it mentioned on the mailing list that it should works with the remote but can't get it to work on mine which is a 97 P reg Ultima estate.

Yours hopefully,

Fitzy  ??? ??? ???

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by Alan on Mar 29th, 2004, 1:14am
Hi Fitzy

I dont think the global closing was designed to work off the remote, mine dont only the key if thats any help.


Alan

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by JohnJ on Mar 29th, 2004, 7:23am
Yea as far a I know its only the key open or close.

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by Mick Saunders on Mar 29th, 2004, 8:49am
:) Hi All,
            Take a look at the following links they might help:- http://fordscorpio.co.uk/handbook032.gif
& http://fordscorpio.co.uk/handbook034.gif
Mick

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by urbanracer on Mar 29th, 2004, 11:24am
From my remote I have full global opening and closing inc sunroof,audible warning and flashing lights and automatic/anti-hijack locking of all doors.

I do not know if he is still about but Steve Collister made this mod.

Its brill ;D

Joe

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by Eric_R on Mar 29th, 2004, 11:57am
Fitzy,
Yes this is correct. The Global Closing feature is only intended for use on the key, possibly for safety reasons because you're supposed to monitor the windows as they close to prevent people getting their bits trapped in them  ;)
Details of system mods are at http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/modindex.htm but I notice that Steve Collister's exceptional Global Closing mod isn't shown there. Don't know why. If you join the Confidential List you could ask him if he has one left - http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/mlist.htm

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by allante on Mar 29th, 2004, 12:06pm
Hi
exactly what is 'Steve Collister's exceptional Global Closing mod ' ?

Andy

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by Alan on Mar 29th, 2004, 11:31pm
Hmmmmmmmmmm
Global closing mod. What is that then??
Would be interested to find out more.

Alan

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by barry_jones on Mar 30th, 2004, 6:16pm
I have this excellent gadget on my car as well. Basically what it does is this:

1. Automatically locks the doors when the speed reaches about 10mph. (this is a safety function as fitted to the Mercs etc.)

2. Gives an audiable beep when the doors lock or unlock

3. flashes the indicators to indicate the doors have locked or unlocked

4. with a combination of remote button pushes opens all of the windows and sunroof and on deadlocking the doors using the remote (2 presses) it also closes the windows and roof as well

altogether a very useful mod which I fitted about a week after I got the car and can highly recommend

Barry

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by FITZY on Mar 30th, 2004, 6:37pm
Hi Barry

Where or who did you get the gadget from?

Fitzy   ??? ??? ???

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by craig on Mar 30th, 2004, 6:45pm
sounds interesting this;
like fitzy said barry,where and when,also is it very easy to fit,put it this way is it a simple diy job,or is it more a case of wires here there and everywhere..............

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by barry_jones on Mar 30th, 2004, 6:46pm
From Steve Collister as has been said earlier. If you join the mailing list or put out an APB for him on the boards, he will respond I'm sure. Just like Batman used to do when they shone that big torch at the clouds!!!

Barry

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by barry_jones on Mar 30th, 2004, 6:55pm
Craig,

fitting is a doddle. Steve supplies full instructions including photos and a video. There are about 10 wires in total and the majority connect down in the drivers footwell behind the panel where the cables come from the drivers door. there is a small double cable which runs into the engine bay for the sounder and the rest is done inside the car.

It cost about 60 quid if I remember and took about 2 hours to fit and test, but is a fantastic pose when you open all the windows remotely!!

If you want I can send you the instructions minus the photos (non-broadband area!!) it is about 41k (4.0 meg with the pics) drop me a mail on baz640@hotmail.com

Barry

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by Badboytunes on Mar 30th, 2004, 9:54pm
:(Thats a bummer. It doesnt work on mine. :(

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by allante on Mar 30th, 2004, 11:36pm
Ok guys,
I got hold of Steve Collister to ask if he had any left, his reply was, and I quote:-

"I don't actually have any ready built as I only ever built them to order.
I am quite busy at the moment with work and diy stuff at home.
I might consider building some if there is a group buy as it does make it a lot easier to do a few together.
So if you can rally a few people to order at once say at least 4 or 5 then get back to me."

So, count me in...who's with me??

Andy


Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by craig on Mar 31st, 2004, 5:55am
barry,thanks for the offer,i really do appreciate that,but as steve has none left at the moment,could i please put that on hold.....thx again..............

alllante,yeah how much to start off with ?,then put me down for one,i'll have a go,if barry says it's a "pose",well i'll have some of that,(quite shy and retiring really me !!!!)

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by Paul B on Mar 31st, 2004, 6:16am
Did you say 'pose'? Where? Let me at it!
Actually this mod's been about for ages now, but I never bothered with it, but you know what... I kinda fancy it now. So I might go for it too. But I have a further question, and I don't want to sound picky, but what sort of tone does it do when locking etc? Wouldn't want one of those irritating little chirpy ones.
Maybe I should wait til the Derby meet to see it in the flesh. Maybe some uints could be for sale there?

Paul

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by barry_jones on Mar 31st, 2004, 10:28am
Paul,

give me a ring on 07957 462381 and I will go outside and open/close the doors for you!!!

I imagine you could change the sounder to whatever you wanted

Barry

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by allante on Mar 31st, 2004, 1:32pm
Hi
hers another email I received from steve Collister, should answer any queries:-

Quote-

"Here is a draft email that has all details on it.

It is available ready built and tested for £55+ £5 P&P to uk. (Europe P&P + 3)
Postage is Special delivery (insured + next day) in UK.
Or for europe I use Airmail + International signed for service + Extra insurance to cover full price of unit.

It is quite easy to fit and will add the following features to your car.

1. Flash indicators on lock / unlock.
2. Sound a buzzer on lock / unlock.
3. Activate global closing when car is deadlocked - so you will never forget to close a window or sunroof.
4. Activate global opening if you unlock the car twice in 15 seconds. I.E. on a hot day unlock your car, lock then unlock again and all windows and sunroof will open.
5. Auto door locking feature - when you drive off after about 20 yards all your doors will lock - prevents getting carjacked or robbed at the  traffic lights.

Full easy to follow instructions are included and a test bulb and test procedure to follow to ensure you have connected all wiring correctly.
Also a video clip on cd to watch showing me doing an installation.

Also wiring connectors are included.

I am available to be contacted via telephone if you have any problems fitting the unit.

Cheers

Steve"

So all we need now is a few of us to get an order up

Andy

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by craig on Mar 31st, 2004, 1:54pm
sounds cool,i'm on the firm,put me down for a definate...



craig...

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by Dazzer0016 on Apr 1st, 2004, 9:18am

[color=Red]font=Verdana]I might consider building some if there is a group buy as it does make it a lot easier to do a few together.  
So if you can rally a few people to order at once say at least 4 or 5 then get back to me."

So, count me in...who's with me?? [/font]

Hi please send me your email address so i can arrange payment & delivery.
thanks
dazzer

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by allante on Apr 1st, 2004, 9:25am
Dazzer
Steve isnt making any yet, we just need a few definite names so it makes it worth his while to make a few.

so far for definites I think theres craig and theres me. (and you if you say so!)

anyone else for definite just shout!

Andy

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by Dazzer0016 on Apr 1st, 2004, 11:17am
Hi Andy mines a definite if you or Steve wants the money up front then just let me know, i,ll send payment

thanks dazzer

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by allante on Apr 1st, 2004, 11:59am
Ok, thats three of us then so far, couild do with a couple more yet, come on guys, show of hands please! (Paul b, Alan, how about you guys?)

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by Paul B on Apr 1st, 2004, 7:45pm
Sorry, I didn't make a firm decision did I. Count me in too. That's a yes... I think!  No, it's definitely a yes  ;)
YES


Paul

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by allante on Apr 2nd, 2004, 5:57am
OK, thats four. now wheres Alan gone? i reckon his cars rolled away down that hill he lives on.  ;)

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by craig on Apr 2nd, 2004, 7:02am
great work there allante...

just let me know when/where to send the cheque...


craig..

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by Thunderchild on Apr 2nd, 2004, 1:43pm
You can count me in for one as well. Give me your details and I'll get the cash off to you asap.

Thunderchild

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by allante on Apr 2nd, 2004, 11:08pm
Ok thats five, i'll let steve know and see what he wants to do about payment

Andy

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by Paul B on Apr 3rd, 2004, 6:49am
Just checking here... these are the ready-built unts we're wanting isn't it? Cos the thing is, if I get a handful of components, I can almost guarantee that this time next year it'll still be a handful of components!!  ;D

Paul

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by craig on Apr 3rd, 2004, 7:12am
good question there paul,i think they are the ready built units,but as you have mentioned it,it would be nice to have verification on this ...............
(little hand fisted myself),and patience never was a strong point................

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by allante on Apr 3rd, 2004, 9:04am
If you check back about twelve messages he does say they are ready built and tested.  :)

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by Paul B on Apr 3rd, 2004, 4:38pm
oops! Sorry  :-[

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by allante on Apr 4th, 2004, 11:02am
Ok Guys, I have a mail form steve which I will post here, its says, and I quote:-

"Hi Andy

Yes five is ok.
I used to take payment by cheque but it is probably easier to do it via paypal.
It will probably take me a few weeks to get these done and so will not ask for full payment up front.
So if the people who want one could pay me £30 initially and then a further £30 when I have built the units.
I will email everyone when they are done and they will be sent out immediately after the second payment is made.
My registered Paypal email address is thestylecouncillor@runbox.com

In case anyone hasn't used paypal before, it's free, easy and safe to use.

Cheers

Steve"

So there ya go! I will be sending my £30 sometime today by paypal and hope that you will all join me!

Andy

PS, please let me know when you have paid so I can cross you off my list

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by craig on Apr 5th, 2004, 10:54am
hi allante

great work,i for one will be paying the deposit this afternoon/evening,just as soon as my dear wife returns to base with my credit card (hopefully with a little credit still intact),i will also just send a message to steve to let him know as well,thanks again for your help.........

just hope it is not too difficult to fit now...lol....

craig...

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by craig on Apr 5th, 2004, 5:48pm
right then wifey's come home,maxed up me card,but what the hell,deposit paid......

thanks..
andy...




craig

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by Paul B on Apr 5th, 2004, 9:49pm
Just set up a PayPal account, but have to wait for some secret number to arrive on my bank statement :-/  Not the easiest thing in the world is it. Still, I'm part-way there. As soon as its done, I'll transfer my money.

Paul

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by allante on Apr 6th, 2004, 6:44am
yeah its a bit of a pain, takes about three or four days and they put a couple of deposits in, usually 3 or 4 pence, not enough for a pint even!
i think were just waiting for 'Dazzer' now, steve had a payment from 'Paul W****' and I can only assume that must be 'thunderchild' (I didnt print the surname just in case he didnt want it known as its not in his profile).

As I seem to have become the unofficial spokesman and go-between for the group, I assume you will all be coming over to sunny Mablethorpe to fit mine for me so i dont have to do acrobatics in the front footwell, I mean at my age it could be dangerous!   ;D ;D

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by craig on Apr 6th, 2004, 6:52am
grrrrrrrrr......
i was rather hoping somebody was going to come to sunny (!!) somerset,whilst attending the glastonbury festival,they could pitch a tent in my garden,and in-between fit mine for me,oh well,never mind,better get the wife a little tool kit i suppose.........
;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by allante on Apr 6th, 2004, 6:54am
'get the wife a little tool kit'?  theres just gotta be a joke in there somewhere!!   ;)

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by Dazzer0016 on Apr 6th, 2004, 10:20am
hi allante
the payment from paul w**** was me.
thanks
dazzer

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by allante on Apr 6th, 2004, 11:28am
Ah, sorry. I stand corrected. in that case....thunderchild, where are you??

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by Thunderchild on Apr 6th, 2004, 12:02pm
Hi guys

Haven't been on for a few days so missed what was happening but payment sent off this morning. Guess I'll just have to wait now with bated breath to receive the mod!!!

I'll have to get the OBD lead out as I've now got a rather peculiar flat spot / misfire which comes and goes. Might be the cat core on the driver's bank which has let go and is blocking the exhaust. Ahhh the joys of owning a Scorpio Cosworth.

Thunderchild

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by allante on Apr 6th, 2004, 1:32pm
hi Guys
Thats all present and correct and paid for, apart from Paul waiting for paypal so thanks very much, its in steves hands now but if i receive any mails from him in the meantime i'll let you all know.
On a different note, TC, where did you get your obd lead from and how much did you pay if you dont mind me asking? (IM me if you like). I have yet to get one but the place in the states is closed for a while.

Cheers

Andy

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by craig on Apr 6th, 2004, 2:15pm
allante

the leads do come up for auction on a regular basis on e-bay,dont follow the bids though,so what they fetch cant help you with......

craig..

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by allante on Apr 6th, 2004, 2:51pm
yes i know but theres so many different types come up on ebay and i never know which one to go after. I do however know which one i need from the place in the states, whos name escapes me at the minute! at least if i get it from there it comes with all the latest software etc.
unless of course anyone can tell me a better way!  :)

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by Thunderchild on Apr 7th, 2004, 8:46am
Hi guys,

I got my cable from http://www.obd-2.com/ and it cost me about $120 which translated at the time into about £70 but the exchange rate is much better now. . Really good and fast service and the updates to the OBD2 code he supplies are always available on the site. I've used the cable several times and it has helped to point me in the right direction. I think that I've got a loom fault on mine at present but can't get time to get into it properly... too busy fixing motorbikes!! Summer's coming Hurrah!!!

Thunderchild

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by allante on Apr 8th, 2004, 1:50pm
Update from Steve:-

"Hi Andy

Thanks for that.

I will order the parts to make up 5 units over the weekend and start building them asap.

Cheers

Steve"


Andy


Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by Dazzer0016 on Apr 8th, 2004, 2:40pm
Hi Allante
let us know when Steve completes the gizmo and wants paying the other £30.00. will send straight away.

thanks

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by craig on Apr 8th, 2004, 2:54pm
me too.......

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by Paul B on Apr 8th, 2004, 6:31pm
I will advance my dosh as soon as I can. But until I get sent this code number for the PayPal thing, I can't use it.
Please do hang on for me though.  :-[
Unless I sent a cheque or somethin.

Paul

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by allante on Apr 9th, 2004, 6:46am
its ok, i did tell steve you were waiting on paypal. hav e you checked your account? its only usually a few days and they pay in a couple of small deposits.
If the worse comes to the worse you can send me the cheque and ill paypal steve but im sure he'll be ok about it.
check your account today and if its not there email me and we'll sort something ok?

Andy

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by Paul B on Apr 9th, 2004, 7:40am
Just tried to check it, but got this message... The PayPal website is temporarily unavailable due to maintenance.
It will be available again at approximately 3:00 AM Pacific Time.
We apologize for any inconvenience.
Will try again 3am Pacific time I guess.

Paul

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by allante on Apr 9th, 2004, 8:20am
paul its your bank account you need to check, they pay into that, not your paypal account, then you tell them how much they paid in and it opens your paypal account

Andy

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by craig on Apr 9th, 2004, 8:33am
as a footnote to this,it will appear on your statement,but if this is not due for a while,you may have to wait (depending on what card you registered with,credit/debit),if it was a credit card,you could try calling/on line.checking to see the amount that has been deposited (along with the code you have to enter into the paypal site),although some credit card companys do not like you phoning for this information...

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by allante on Apr 9th, 2004, 8:38am
yes. and if you dont have online or phone banking you can usually get a statement from a cash machine (seeing as its a bank holiday today!)

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by allante on Apr 15th, 2004, 5:57am
Another update from Steve guys,

It reads:-

"Hi Andy

Just a quick update.

I have ordered enough parts to make all 5 units.
They should be arriving later today.
I have started on the construction during my spare time at work.
I am still waiting for the 5th deposit from paul so I will give priority to the 1st 4 units.
If he comes up with the deposit in the next few days then he will recieve his unit at the same time as the others.

Cheers

Steve"


Paul?


Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by craig on Apr 15th, 2004, 6:39pm
thx for the update,really nice to be kept informed....

TOP  JOB

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by Paul B on Apr 15th, 2004, 7:50pm
Sorry guys. I'm really having problems with this Paypal thing being set up. Its really winding me up to tell you the truth. Too complicated for my little brain!
I'm gonna keep trying with it, but if you could trust one of my cheques or something, that would be great.
Sorry to cause aggro. I promise you, I DO want it.

Paul

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by Paul B on Apr 15th, 2004, 8:07pm
Okayyyy, just tried again... and things seemed to work. Bear with me as I'm a Paypal virgin, but it would appear I've just successfully transfered thirty quid to Steve C's account.  :)
Should I have done the full 60 yet? :-/

Paul

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by Badboytunes on Apr 15th, 2004, 9:17pm
Hi Paul.............   I too had a bit of aggro setting up my account. But ive got the hang of it now and its really good. Will your unit be fitted by the time we meet in Derby??

    Cheers Nick ;)

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by allante on Apr 16th, 2004, 5:46am
Update from Steve:-
quote-

"Just letting you know 5th deposit has been paid.
Also most parts have arrived, waiting on the microchips.
Have nearly finished making the wiring looms, will start constructing the circuits when I've finished the wiring.
Cheers

Steve"

Andy

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by Paul B on Apr 16th, 2004, 6:00am
Hello Nick. Where you been hiding?
Its only a couple of weeks or so til Derby, so even if I have the unit before then, I VERY much doubt I'll get around to fitting it in time  :-[ :-/ Still, I'll have a go.

Paul

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by Badboytunes on Apr 16th, 2004, 7:47pm
Im still about. We both had a cold over the hols so not on the puter much :-[ :-[ :-[

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by Wayne24v on Apr 23rd, 2004, 8:01pm
I can't belive I've missed this post, I really want one too. Is it too late for me to order one???  :'(

Cheers
Wayne

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by Dean on Apr 25th, 2004, 12:55am
Hi Guys
me too.....me too.... i have just spotted this and have read the five previous pages of postings and want one, if they are only to be done in batches of five then i want to be number two of five, please advise soonest

thanks

Dean
PS please send PM for faster responce  :)

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by scorpio_man on Apr 25th, 2004, 10:38am
hi there

contact steve c on Thestylecouncillor@runbox.com
that's the guy who designed it.


hth
ps. i think he's going to the derby meeting, not sure though.

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by Wayne24v on Apr 25th, 2004, 10:29pm
I've sent him an e-mail so we'll see.

Cheers,
Wayne

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by Wayne24v on Apr 26th, 2004, 12:56pm
Dean,

Just got an e-mail back from Steve. He says it's no problem. I've just got to wait 4 days to complete my Paypal activation then I can send him the first £30 so he can order the parts.  8)

Cheers,
Wayne

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by allante on Apr 28th, 2004, 6:35am
Hi
Just an update I go tfrom steve regarding the first batch ordered

Quote :-

Hi Andy

Just a progress report.

Have got quite far with the units.
Have one fully made and currently being tested in my car.
Have 3 others almost finished.

Will let you know when I'm almost ready to post out to finalise the payments and postage addresses.

Cheers

Steve


Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by Dazzer0016 on Apr 28th, 2004, 12:07pm
thanks for the update, lets us know when he needs the final payment.

dazzer

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by Dazzer0016 on May 4th, 2004, 11:20am
Hi
any more updates from Steve?

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by allante on May 4th, 2004, 1:42pm
not as yet m8, I'll pass them straight on when i get them

Andy

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by allante on May 11th, 2004, 4:22pm
UPDATE!!!
received this email from Steve after I enquired how the units were coming on-
quote:


All units are built.

Just testing them in my car then got to do the cd's.

So should be ready for posting by end of week.

If you could arrange for the balance to be paid then I can get them in the post on friday so you will all get them on saturday morning.

Cheers

Steve

unquote

Please just drop a reply in here so I know this has been read by all concerned
cheers
Andy

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by Thunderchild on May 11th, 2004, 7:51pm
Hi Alan,

Just sent off the payment to Steve. Looking forward to receiving the mod and getting it fitted.

Thunderchild

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by Thunderchild on May 11th, 2004, 7:53pm
Sorry Andy.... can't get names right now.... it's an age thing you know!!!!!
Thunderchild

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by Paul B on May 11th, 2004, 9:22pm
Yep, I'm all paid up now too.
Getting the hang of this PayPal thing now... I think! :-/

Paul

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by craig on May 12th, 2004, 7:08am
yep

this end too,all paid up now,looking forward to getting it now,wife said she is bored,....
"dear,dont make any plans for the week-end.....your busy"....

craig....

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by Dazzer0016 on May 12th, 2004, 9:03am
2nd payment made by me

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by allante on May 13th, 2004, 5:33am
Me paid!

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by allante on May 14th, 2004, 3:08pm
As you all probably know by now, steve has posted the five units. If they arrive tomorrow looks like we'll all be having a busy weekend! (saves cutting the grass!!)

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by craig on May 14th, 2004, 3:47pm
thx for letting us all know......

only cutting the grass !!!!!!!!!!

lol....

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by Dazzer0016 on May 14th, 2004, 3:50pm
get your stopwatches at the ready and replacement remote batteries handy with all that pressing ... we can have synchronized  globaling at Harewood if your all going.
all the best with fitting

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by Thunderchild on May 14th, 2004, 7:10pm
My missus is gonna kill me!!!!!!!!!!! another weekend lost in the depths of the Scorpio.

Thunderchild

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by DAZZER00016 on May 15th, 2004, 1:20pm
Hi all you global mod fitters.....got the mod this morn fitted the black box under streering conected 3 ignition wires...plus 1 down to red /yellow wire then it says conect ground plus other wires to (behind A piller)....cant find the coloured wires to match,so many where exactly is it wired in?
car in bits....hellllllllllllllllllllp

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by DAZZER00016 on May 15th, 2004, 1:30pm
panic over the wires are the ones in the foot well coming from the main rubber tube/boot from the door electrics, my ground wires are black

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by Paul B on May 15th, 2004, 1:46pm
:'( Don't have mine yet   :'(

Mind you, I just know it'll take me ages to get around to fitting it!

Paul

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by DAZZER00016 on May 15th, 2004, 4:05pm
All fitted...but wont open windows within 15 seconds..(closes no probs).Make sure you have 10 scotchlock blocks.....before you start....great video and written instructions come with it...took me about 3 hours....did a bit of cleaning of plastic as well...took my time with it. tell me how you all get on

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by craig on May 16th, 2004, 8:54am
mine did arrive yesterday,however no one in to sign for it (grrrrrrr),so will pick it up tomorrow,...............
dazzer,i thought you had to open the car,close it then open it again for the windows etc. to open,does that not work ?

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by allante on May 16th, 2004, 12:13pm
hang on, how many 'dazzer's' we got here???

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by Dazzer00016 on May 16th, 2004, 1:09pm
One just, lost my password so had to reregister.
How you got on with your fitting Allante?

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by Thunderchild on May 16th, 2004, 8:27pm
Mine arrived Saturday morning, well packaged and complete with all the instructions including a video..... very good!!!. Couldn't get the time to fit it yesterday (out on the Fireblade having fun) but did it today. Really easy when you follow the instructions and only took me 1 hour and 15 mins to complete. All the tests worked fine and when I connected the box everything worked just as it should. To say that I'm a happy bunny is an understatement!!!!! A fantastic mod which I would recommend to everyone. My thanks to Steve for designing and building them and to Alan for organising the purchase. You guys are the business!!!!

Thunderchild

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by allante on May 17th, 2004, 12:39am
ah...ended up cutting the grass after all im afraid! and thunderpants....quit calling me Alan!!   ;D

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by Paul B on May 17th, 2004, 6:42am
So am I the only one who hasn't received theirs?
Maybe it'll come today eh?  :-/
If not, I'll have to get humpy wiv the postman.... again!  >:(

Paul

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by craig on May 17th, 2004, 7:05am
WOW

paul you have a female post person..........

oops sorry,mis read the humpin bit.....

lol

hope you get it today anyway mate (the mod that is !!)

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by Thunderchild on May 17th, 2004, 9:05am
Sorry Andy... like I said before, it's an age thing  ;D ;D ;D

Thunderchild

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by craig on May 17th, 2004, 11:38am
picked mine up this morning from the post office,all seems to be in the box,however,the cd of the fitting instructions,is it just mine,or is there no sound on the disc,just played it through the pc,pics seem to be ok,but no sound,has anybody else had this problem ?

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by Dazzer0016 on May 17th, 2004, 12:02pm
no sound on mine either just lots of hairy arm shots

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by craig on May 17th, 2004, 12:57pm
in that case dazzer,did you have any other instructions with the cd ?,all i have is the cd,no written ones at all

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by craig on May 17th, 2004, 4:40pm
IDIOT !!!!!!!!!!!

ok silly me,didi'nt check the cd for the word document,really good and easy to follow instructions by the looks of it,must get round to having a play sometime.............

dazzer,by the way did you get your windows opening ok ?

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by Dazzer0016 on May 17th, 2004, 4:49pm
hi craig i,ll have to have another attempt at it, hoping a loose wire in scotchblock when replacing plastic panel...windows go up no prob on locking but wont go down from remote....lights flash and buzzer sounds ok....the wires to the buzzer in front grill panel were too short so had to add longer wire 12/13 (i think) have not connected up to radio....i think the radio will have to be pulled out or if any one else as done it where did you splice into the green ( i think) radio wire?

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by craig on May 17th, 2004, 8:04pm
hi dazzer

i know steve said that he tried everyone he made on his own car,and as to removing the radio,if you have the tools,i find if the radio has been removed before,it does seem a little easier,but if it is a little tricky,pull the tools toward the car doors,once they are in the lugs,and give it a little wriggle,should make it a little easier

HTH

craig..

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by Paul B on May 17th, 2004, 9:03pm
Phew! I didn't have to get humpy wiv the postman (or hump the postperson Craig  ;))
Arrived today thankfully with the following scribed on the front...
Try to deliver Saturday
No, Friday
Yes, Saturday!

Nice to know you can trust the post orrifice to deliver the goods without playing games!  >:(

Have watched the video and read the instructions. It would appear quite easy to do. Look forward to having the time to do it.

Paul

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by Baz on May 17th, 2004, 9:52pm
ah ha!! welcome to the global open/close mod club boys!! isn't it a wonderful gizmo? That Steve bloke (the one with the hairy arms in the video) is a top cookie

I spliced into the green wire just where it goes into the plug at the back of the radio, I just found it easier. One thing I did do to mine after a few months was to cut and solder all of the connections rather than rely on scotch locks. I found that I was getting intermittant faults like the windows would go up but not down or the locks weren't locking when I drove off that sort of thing. I haven't had any probs since I did it so it suits me.

Baz

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by craig on May 18th, 2004, 6:27am
nice tip baz (also thx for the e-mail)..............

was going to solder the wires in first,but best to scotchlock first to check they do all work, run the tests,then solder like you say,i'll do it that way,well sometime anyway....................................

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by stevo1 on May 18th, 2004, 1:45pm
Im in for one if its still a go er

Steve

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by craig on May 18th, 2004, 2:59pm
you could always try e-mailing him direct and asking "VERY,VERY NICELY".....

craig

a very happy customer

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by craig on May 19th, 2004, 7:02pm
fitted mine today............................

dazzer,did you get yours sorted out ?,the reason for asking is that mine does exactly the same,closes all the windows ok,but will not open them,have checked the wiring 4 times now,still no joy,and to make it worse,only 1 side of the indicators flash as well,but when dead locking the car all the indicators flash !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

all in all,had enough of it for today,quite disappointing really,has anybody else had similar problems ?

have contacted steve,and he has promised to look into it

but for the moment "i give up"

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by Paul B on May 19th, 2004, 9:04pm
Oh dear!  :(   I still haven't started mine yet. Was hoping to get time this weekend. I hope mine's not going to play up. I'm not sure I've got the patience for it.
Hope you get it sorted Craig. And Dazzer.

Paul

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by craig on May 19th, 2004, 9:11pm
hi paul

good luck mate,i must say that steves instructions are very easy to follow,and thoroughly explained,probably the best i have seen (printed them off,and took them to the car,much easier),however,still trying to sort it out,if you do get time to do it,let us know how you get on will you please

craig....

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by Paul B on May 19th, 2004, 9:30pm
No problem. Of course I will.
Might even take some snaps - just in case.  ;D

Paul

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by allante on May 20th, 2004, 6:46am
can i just add my tuppence worth here and say that scotchlocks are notorious for bad connections. much better to solder them as someone said earlier

Andy

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by craig on May 20th, 2004, 7:04am
have double and triple checked EVERY connection,tried scotchlocks twice,have now used bullet connectors (as have no access to soldering gun at the mo),but still no joy
:'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by Dazzer0016 on May 20th, 2004, 4:38pm
hi craig was going to double check my conections...but i,ve got the same probs as you....only passenger side indicators flash....but on double lock all indicators flash once (slow)...i still have no down windows control from remote just up on double lock.
poss prob with black box
any others with same prob.....mine is a ghia model






Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by Dazzer0016 on May 20th, 2004, 4:40pm
Craig....also i,ve not conected the last wire to the radio yet...need radio pullers...have you fitted this wire?

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by craig on May 20th, 2004, 6:38pm
dazzer


THANK YOU

exactly the same symptoms here "identical",glad it's not just me,but still quite disappointed with it all,have contacted steve,he said he would double check his diagrams today,and try to get back to me,but i know he is off camping at the week-end,so i will give him some time,this i have been thinking about all day,and still none the wiser,the wiring is ok,i know that,so i am assuming yours is too,amanda (the wife) did mention this.......
my car does not lock/global close from the drivers door,only the passenger door (key will go in but not turn),does your car lock from the drivers side ?,if not that could be the problem she thinks,having said that,very,very similar wiring is on the passenger side,what i might try tomorrow is to connect the wire to the passenger side,see if that helps,but i will say this,if we both have the same problems,something ain't right...
>:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by craig on May 20th, 2004, 6:40pm
forgot to mention,have you contacted steve ?
BTW,mine is a 97 ultima,baz's worked ok at derby mind,and his is a 1998.......

also have conected the wire to the radio,this works fine,but has made no difference to the other problems,when you do connect the wire,connect to the radio wiring NOT THE SPEAKER ONE,(wire there the same colour)

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by Paul B on May 20th, 2004, 8:40pm
Got me wondering whether I should start it or not now  :-/
Who else had one from the same batch? Thunderchild did, and all seems well with his.
Anyone else fitted it and have everything working?
Just thinking, surely they were all built the same (?)

Paul

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by craig on May 20th, 2004, 9:06pm
dazzer
i have just pm'd barry to see if his instructions are the same as ours,i will let you know when i have them,paul i hope yours is fine,it just seems a bit odd to me that 2 of us so far have exactly the same problems,like paul says,has anybody else who ordered this had a similar experience ?,to have the same problems as well,seems even odder !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :'(

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by craig on May 21st, 2004, 6:46am
dazzer,when you read this,can you confirm to me if the car can be unlocked WITH THE KEY from the drivers door ?

paul,i think this is where the problem might be,can you unlock the car from the drivers side ?,just got baz's fitting instructions and compared them to mine,sadly exactly the same,just reding the instructions now and i quote
regarding wire 10,connect to the thinest red/white wire,this is the key in the unlock position,but surely if you cant open the drivers door with the key,this will not mimic the global opening.........................

not feeling too good today,but if i'm up to it tomorrow,i might try connecting this wire into the passenger side wiring,me thinks that might solve the problem,the indicators are still causing me some grief though,oh well,let me know how you get on paul,but like i said,if all of your locks work fine,i think you will be ok  ;)

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by Dazzer0016 on May 21st, 2004, 9:20am
hi craig doors unlock by using key in drivers door lock...makes the tweet noise etc

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by allante on May 21st, 2004, 11:06am
Well just fitted mine, and all works ok! only thing i can say to you guys with the probs, is, did the tests all work before you fitted the box? also, the thing with the three white/red wires...make sure you find all three before you decide which is the thinnest one. to whoever said they didnt have radio pullers, you can get the white/green wire without pulling the radio whilst youve got the bit of dash down. just find the foam wrapped  bundle coming from behind the centre console and look for the wire, its a very thin one. theres two or three bundles so if at first you dont succeed etc... (the foam stops and turns into a thin black spiral wrapping, the bundle it was in looked mainly orange if that helps.)
As far as i can make out, if the test bulb tests all definitely work then there may be a fault in the box?

Andy

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by craig on May 21st, 2004, 11:47am
thanks dazzer..........
that now puts my theory out the window !!!!!!!!!!

andy,dont know about dazzer,but all the tests worked up untill testing the opening of the windows and closing of the windows,like i have previously said checked the wiring several times,and the connections,just seems funny that both me and dazzer (at the moment),have exactly the same problems........................ >:( >:( >:( >:(

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by Dazzer0016 on May 21st, 2004, 12:49pm
Checked mine first with test bulb all checked ok. then conected black box...all ok apart from window...then noticed after all fitted back that driver side indicator didnt flash untill double lock...was hoping to be bad conection on indicator stalk.

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by craig on May 21st, 2004, 1:01pm
going to have another crack at mine again tomorrow (hopefully),will keep you informed dazzer


if not look in the for sale section soon
1997 2.3 ultima for sale !!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by Paul B on May 22nd, 2004, 6:37pm
Well, I did it. Its all fitted.  And what's more, it works!
I also noticed that those 2 wires for the bleeper are a bit short and needed extending. But that was the only problem really.
While on the subject of the bleeper... how irritating is that?!  I'm contemplating doing away with that bit - as long as it wouldn't affect anything else. I'm sure it wouldn't.
Still have to get used to the different combination of presses & flashes too. And I'm not sure if I was being too quick & impatient with it, but it seemed to be a bit keen to open everything for me! Will have another play later, or even tomorrow.
How'd you other guys get on today?

Paul

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by craig on May 23rd, 2004, 7:45am
well paul,it's like this...............

spent approx 5 hours yesterday totally going through it,and guess what .................

it's now been removed completely,after several attempts at it (closest i got was all working except global opening and offside indicator not flashing AGAIN),have e-mailed steve,i know he is away for the weekend,but am now asking for it to be returned and tested,because i am quite sure now that there must be a problem either in the box,or on the loom,will keep you informed................................

a rather fed up       craig...

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by Paul B on May 23rd, 2004, 8:15am
Hi Craig.
Well, after my posting last night, I did go out and have another play with it - just to see if it still opened everything so overkeenly. And now I have a slight problem..!  The trouble is that the global opening has now packed up - or so it would seem. I'm going to have another play this morning (the neighbours were gettng fed up with the bleeping last night).
Now mine WAS working great, but if the opening has packed up, then we definitely have problems.

All the best... Paul

Are any others still working properly??

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by Paul B on May 23rd, 2004, 2:21pm
Right, so everything WAS working fine, including all indicators.
Indicators still work but the windows won't open. They will however close ok.
Global closing / opening works fine with the key (just checking the original set-up hasn't been upset).
I can only assume that this is a black box fault somehow.

Paul

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by craig on May 23rd, 2004, 3:37pm
hi paul

glad yet again i am not the only one,i have contacted steve via his e-mail,and i am waiting for him to get back to me,i know he is away camping this week-end,now i dont want to make a big thing of this but...............

but if several of us have problems,surely this is not just coincidence,would everybody who has had a problem contact steve,now i dont want to get a thing going called "everybody kick up a stink",i think it was a very nice gesture of steve to make the units up,and agree to sending them out to us,but if we do have problems,i for one think that they should try to be sorted out,again i think it was 6 of us who ordered them,allante dealt with it all........

so has anybody fitted there's and had no problems what-so-ever ?

Title: Re: Global Closing
Post by Paul B on May 23rd, 2004, 8:20pm
Right now don't laugh, but I spent the rest of the afternoon beavering away in the garden!  While I was wrenching out all those wonderful weeds, I had a thought... why not run through the test procedure again? So that's what I did. At least then, if the test bulb didn't flash when required, I'd know if it was the wiring at fault or the box..(?)
So I went through it all, expecting a non-result when I got to the window lowering bit - only to find that they did work ???  Okay then, now to test the raising... nothing! Completely the opposite ??? ??? So I decided to try the global system with the key (to close everything) Absolutely fine. So again, I tried to open the windows on the test procedure. Nothing again, but the closing now worked again!
Now if you're confused, then I'm totally with you cos I don't understand it at all. The wiring & connections are fine, but it will either do one operation or the other it seems. There seems to be a conflict somewhere for some reason.  :-/

I will also e-mail Steve to let him know.

Paul



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