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(Message started by: Rich on Apr 15th, 2004, 8:46pm)

Title: Engine oil
Post by Rich on Apr 15th, 2004, 8:46pm
Hi, Can anyone advise on the engine oil. I went into Halfords today to buy the usual semi-synthetic 5w30 but found they had a deal on fully synthetic 5w40. Basically you got 10 litres for the price of 5, so I bought this instead. I am assuming the car will be more than happy with this oil but does anyone have any comments. My car is a 2.0 16v ultima auto. I live on the south coast so there are little extremes in temperatures apart from last summer of course.
Cheers
          Rich

Title: Re: Engine oil
Post by scorpio_man on Apr 15th, 2004, 9:23pm
hi there

i saw that offer. the 16 valve engines should use sae 5w-30 grade. sae 5w-40 is 3rd 'choice' as recommended by ford.
i've found havoline sae 5w-30 grade in asda/walmart at £15 for 5lts.
remember to use ONLY ford oil filters.

hth
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Title: Re: Engine oil
Post by allante on Apr 16th, 2004, 5:47am
why only ford oil filters?

Title: Re: Engine oil
Post by Snoopy on Apr 16th, 2004, 6:22am
Because they have a little valve in them which is supposed to stop the oil draining back into the sump away from the oil ways... and therfore helps stop the lack of lubrication at start up

Cheers
Snoopy

Title: Re: Engine oil
Post by allante on Apr 16th, 2004, 7:40am
Hmmm..interesting, mine has a motaquip on it (was on it when i got it). could this contribute to the startup rattle on a 24v?
(that was a non rhetorical question, of course it could!!).

Its in at FMD at the minute for a service so ill see if their filter makes a difference. (why they want ti from 8:30 until 3:00 though is beyond me! good job i dont work fridays!)

Title: Re: Engine oil
Post by Alan on Apr 17th, 2004, 1:21am
Hi Andy
Just out of intrest. An oil change is quite a straight foeward job. Why pay Fords and you could do it yourself for less than half the price. Unless you know someone there of course.
Just wondering. Me being nosey again that is.
Ill shut up now BUT!!
They must be paying you to much at Burger King. ;D ;D
Alan

Title: Re: Engine oil
Post by allante on Apr 17th, 2004, 9:20am
Im a fully qualified mechanic (sorry, technician!) actually, ok, british leyland trained but qualified nonetheless! Its just that for one thing, it keeps my full Ford dealer service history up to date, and the other thing is that ive got to the age where I think, why do these things when i can just pay someone else to do it for me. I wouldnt pay someone to change the timing chains or big end bearings or other big labour intensive job but for a simple thing like a service I just find it easier. twenty years ago I wouldnt have paid anyone to do anything, car, house,plumbing, building, electrics or whatever. mind you, i was skint back then! :D

Or like you say, maybe I just get paid too much!! ;)

Title: Re: Engine oil
Post by Rich on Apr 17th, 2004, 1:14pm
Hi Allante, I think you answered why I try to avoid putting the car into FMD. Whenever its gone there its usually there for the day if not longer and this can be on the smallest of jobs. If I can do the job such as a service,then I do it myself. The plus side is that the car is only out of use for part of the day. I have limited knowledge,skills and tools so things like the timing chain which I had changed recently was left to Fords. Basically I tackle what I am confident at sorting.
Regards
            Rich

Title: Re: Engine oil
Post by allante on Apr 17th, 2004, 11:49pm
Hi, the all day thing was probably my fault as id told them i didnt need the car till late afternoon, theyre usually pretty good, i recently had a leak on my aircon and i ended up replacing two pipes. they charged it three times in total, each time i just turned up and they did it straight away. and they only charged me 45 quid alltogether which was cheaper than other garages wanted for just doing it once!
Its good that you do your own car, its just that sometimes I quite enjoy locking myself away in my garage and spending an afternoon on the car and sometimes i just cant be bothered!! each to their own i guess, like i say, years ago, ive been skint and have run a car on four bald tyres and an exhaust held together with coke cans as i just couldnt afford to fix them but still needed a car. fortunately i dont have that problem these days so its nice sometimes to sit back and let someone else get down and dirty!

Title: Re: Engine oil
Post by Alan on Apr 18th, 2004, 1:38am
As you can tell I am tight when it comes to doing the work on the car But some jobs I just dont have time or knollage to do, so have to pay someone to do it for me. Oh I hate that.
But it makes scence to have the main dealer service your car if he is going to stamp your book. Plus you are not getting any younger. So one has to pay then. ;) ;)
Alan

Title: Re: Engine oil
Post by Rich on Apr 18th, 2004, 10:43am
Hi, Funny how my simple post about engine oil prompted so much conversation,but thats good. Not really sure if I go with this dealers stamp in the service book thing. Sure when the car is young its important, but mines now 8years old and done 85k. Its value is around £1750 I think. If I intended to sell which I am not as I enjoy the car, I think the service book would help sell it but only add say another £100 if that.
I am quite fit and 46 now, so will continue with most of the mechanical jobs. When the body starts complaining or if I have better things to do then the car will be going to the garage.
Regards
            Rich      

Title: Re: Engine oil
Post by allante on Apr 18th, 2004, 11:06am
Im 44 and still fit despite what alan might tell you to the contrary!
I know what you mean about the service record but mines a cosworth and i think its a bit more important due to the amount of faults they can develop. put it this way, i wouldnt buy a cosworth without a reasonably up to date service record. Thats just my opinion of course, alan will probably have a different one knowing him!  ;D

Title: Re: Engine oil
Post by Alan on Apr 19th, 2004, 12:15am
What makes you think that? ::) ::)

I also have a 95 cosi and personaly I prefer to do some of the more simple jobs by myself. I payed just over 1k for it 6 months ago. up untill then the book was stamped but I prefer to service mine every 6 months or 6k which ever sooner. If I payed a garage to do that for me I would be skint and also the Mrs would have probly left me. She allready thinks I spend more on the car than her now.
Sorry Andy Just my opinion everyone. ;) ;)

Title: Re: Engine oil
Post by allante on Apr 19th, 2004, 12:27am
See, i knew you'd have to be different! ;)

and anyway, dont we all spend more on the car than on the mrs?
and dont we all spend more on the car than we ADMIT to the mrs?

(actually, mine offered to pay for my road tax when its due...she must be after something!)

Title: Re: Engine oil
Post by Alan on Apr 19th, 2004, 12:36am
You are verry lucky.
My mrs wouldnt even think of offering to buy me car tax BUT when it comes to serviceing her car, it is a diffrent story.
Guess who has to buy all the bits to do the job??
Yes you are wright. Its Me of course. Also She dont moan then. Oh no. Only when I got to spend on my car.
Come on my car neads more love an attension than her car dont it.?
Mine is a 95 cosi and hers is a 93 Mondeo. Which one would you rather spend your money on? ::) ::)



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