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(Message started by: Pegasus on Feb 3^rd, 2005, 7:48pm)

Title: What is this thing??
Post by Pegasus on Feb 3^rd, 2005, 7:48pm

Dear All,
just getting into the DIY thing after reading the great site info (& not entirely trusting Ford Service depts anyway - with good reason - am I alone in this I wonder).

Anyway, had a thorough poke around the engine bay and in the offside just underneath the PAS pump I found something the shape of a can connected to 2 rubber hoses just lying there (not even fixed in place though screw lugs present) ???

From info gleaned from site, is this the ABS modulator?

Whatever it is, I'm assuming its ok to be left loose 'cos I can't see where it would be connected to bodywork.

I'd appreciate your advice,

Pegasus

Title: Re: What is this thing??
Post by Badboytunes on Feb 3^rd, 2005, 8:23pm

if it was the abs pump it would be conected to the abs valve that has loads of brake pipes going to it.....

HTH

Cheers Nick

Title: Re: What is this thing??
Post by SaveTheNight on Feb 3^rd, 2005, 10:30pm

EGR connector at the offside flitch panel ?? ............STN

Title: Re: What is this thing??
Post by mr._floppy on Feb 3^rd, 2005, 11:17pm

I know it's situated at the rear of the car , but could it be an old discarded fuel filter ?

Title: Re: What is this thing??
Post by ash on Feb 4^th, 2005, 8:17am

maybe an empty NOS can ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: What is this thing??
Post by Snoopy on Feb 4^th, 2005, 8:25am

Have a read of this http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/manual/engines/24v/24VDismantle.pdf and the associated pages and see if you can identify it your self.... But I think STN may have hit on it, but your description is rather vague.

Title: Re: What is this thing??
Post by Pegasus on Feb 4^th, 2005, 9:37am

Hi Guys,
thanks for info. I've checked Snoopy's reference. Nope, definateley not the EGR. I'll try and follow the tubing to see where they go - but as you know it'd tight in there.

It's shaped like a can of beans, 3" diam, 3-4" long, black plastic, resting on top of the wheel arch. Hasn't anyone else got 1 of these ???

I'm hoping to get to the next Kent meet - perhaps someone will recognise it.

I'll be off line for a few days so I'll feed back asap

Cheers

Paul

Title: Re: What is this thing??
Post by Eric_R on Feb 4^th, 2005, 6:50pm

Pegasus,
That sounds like the EVAP canister - it stores petrol fumes from the fuel tank and is purged regularly by the EVAP valve. Can you take a photo and see if we can confirm this?

Title: Re: What is this thing??
Post by Dave on Feb 4^th, 2005, 8:46pm

Paul,

I think I know what you mean, but sadly I don't know what it does! We had a problem with it a couple of months ago - the two pipes (that connect to the can through a single adaptor) came away and caused, basically, some sort of vacuum/air leak. Basically, when switching the car off there was a hissing noise for a few seoncds after. The noise was also there when running, aditionally the car lacked power. When reconnected it was as though the car "re-learnt" the fact that this thing was there, and idled poorly for a few miles. After that, power restored and hissing gone.

Hope this is of some use! ;D

Cheers

Title: Re: What is this thing??
Post by howiedintheplace on Feb 4^th, 2005, 9:40pm

Well I reckon it could be a reservoir for the EGR system.
Has it got 2 pipes going to it & is a bit smaller than a coke can? It is usally (if I remember correctly) mounted towards the front of the inner wheel arch?

Title: Re: What is this thing??
Post by Pegasus on Feb 8^th, 2005, 9:08am

Thanks Eric, Dave & Howie,

yep looks a coke can.
I tube splits through T- junction: 1st goes through front of engine then loops to just on inside of offside manifold to electrical connector (on other side from oil inlet) the 2nd goes to back of engine bay.
Other tube leaving "can" goes to an electrical connector on wing below windscreen washer reservoir.

I'll get hold of a digital camera this weekend and take some pics.

Cheers all,

P

Title: Re: What is this thing??
Post by Eddie on Feb 8^th, 2005, 5:56pm

Sounds like EGR vacuum solonoids.

eddie

Title: Re: What is this thing??
Post by Eric_R on Feb 8^th, 2005, 7:19pm

Pegasus,
On reading your original post again I notice you mention it's beneath the PAS pump - so I think Howied's right.

If you mean on the drivers side of the car towards the front, the canister with 2 pipes can only be the reservoir for the vacuum system. The pipes connected to it should go to the engine inlet manifold - the second to a vacuum regulator mounted down on the drivers side of the engine bay. The vacuum is used for the EGR, EVAP, VIS (where fitted) and the Climate control, (where fitted)
If you look carefully on the engine sidewall just behind and beneath the offside front headlamp you should see the holes for the bolts that secure it on the forward curve of the front o/s wheel well. When you resecure it make sure the pipes are all connected and not damaged or you'll get an unmetered inlet air leak and a poor idle.

Title: Re: What is this thing??
Post by Pegasus on Feb 10^th, 2005, 12:17pm

Thanks All for input,
Eric - from the description it sounds like you've got it. I'll have a go at securing it.

Cheers,

P

Title: Re: What is this thing??
Post by Pegasus on Feb 18^th, 2005, 4:58pm

Hi All,
said I'd put the pics here. Well I've got 'em but have no idea how to put on the site (I've tried cut and paste,etc) . Is there something special I should be doing?
They confirm what Eric has said.

Cheers,

Pegasus

Title: Re: What is this thing??
Post by Eddie on Feb 18^th, 2005, 6:04pm

When in the posting window,above the smilies there are 2 rows of icons.
Bottom row 4th from left (insert image) click on this and [img][/img] will appear in your window.
Click in the middle of the 2 sets of brackets (img)HERE(/img) and paste the link to your piccy.

eddie

Title: Re: What is this thing??
Post by Pegasus on Feb 19^th, 2005, 12:10am

Thanks Eddie,
I thought as much. Trouble is, I don't have a link to paste - just the piccy files and it wont let me do it! As you've probably guessed - I'm new to this web chat lark. :-[

Pegasus.

Title: Re: What is this thing??
Post by Snoopy on Feb 19^th, 2005, 8:18am

If you want somewhere to post your pictures then there are lots of places that will let you do it

Here are a couple of the places that some of the people on here use.

http://groups.msn.com/TheFordScorpio1995

http://www.anyboard.net/autos/cars/scorpio/index.html

and of cousre your ISP's own web space that they give you when you sign up..

Title: Re: What is this thing??
Post by Pegasus on Feb 19^th, 2005, 9:23am

God - what a palava >:(
On that 1st link its taken 30 mins to get to a point where I have to wait for the Scorpio95 admin guy to approve me as a member. ???
So hopefully, I'll be let in (again?)
Just hope I can remember the new passwords I've had to come up with.
TTFN

Title: Re: What is this thing??
Post by Pegasus on Feb 21^st, 2005, 1:06pm

At last, here (hopefully) are the piccys (thanks to Snoopy for advice):
This 1 shows "The Thing" http://groups.msn.com/TheFordScorpio1995/pegasus.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=695 ...

... and this 1 shows where 2 of the 'tubes' enter the manifold http://groups.msn.com/TheFordScorpio1995/pegasus.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=696.

Cheers

P

Title: Re: What is this thing??
Post by Pegasus on Feb 21^st, 2005, 1:14pm

ARRGG!!! >:( :'( >:(

Where are the pics. I've followed all the advice but can only see the little X icon. Why ???

Help.

Pegasus.

Title: Re: What is this thing??
Post by Vulcan on Feb 21^st, 2005, 1:22pm

Don't know why they don't show using the img tag but direct links to them are....

http://groups.msn.com/TheFordScorpio1995/pegasus.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=695

http://groups.msn.com/TheFordScorpio1995/pegasus.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=696

hth

George

EDIT: got 'em.... ;D

http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0TADrArMW0nLnWD4SEahO7WvOXSzEo*94XqzN*5XaBhV2HLdhS2713AFa4qOlEtDMkKrDsnFKKQL7lAjMux80k9aEfXukQnmpNkqZGVQGY6VSIJG4fxmWnQ/What1a.jpg?dc=4675511047801488119

http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0TAAnA7QWGHMsUG5XuDF5yMSHmCq!E26zxYQ5c5467L6E0O8oOUZCMjDPyQ0CZjxUS4BkudnjsiRMAqusbVXvouObj6XnvaE3AwH2C*wHZjHWujKidZ9akA/What2a.jpg?dc=4675511047933591769

Title: Re: What is this thing??
Post by Pegasus on Feb 21^st, 2005, 1:36pm

Thanks Vulcan,
perhaps I'll have better luck next time,
Pegasus

Title: Re: What is this thing??
Post by Vulcan on Feb 21^st, 2005, 1:43pm

No probs, the problem was that the link wasn't directly to the image but to a url for an html page. If you go to the page on the MSN groups where the piccy is and right click on the pic itself then pull down to properties you will see in there a url linking directly to the jpeg. You copy and paste that url (really long one) into your post then add the[ img] tags.