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(Message started by: Pete on Mar 29^th, 2005, 9:41pm)

Title: Fitting an O/S wing
Post by Pete on Mar 29^th, 2005, 9:41pm

Would anyone have any pointers for welding a new wing onto a 97 Scorpio? Would it be as easy as cutting the old one off and replacing it or is it a job best left to a bodyshop?.
I have no qualms about diy as I used to be a welder and did the odd bit on cars, but that was 10 years ago.

Title: Re: Fitting an O/S wing
Post by Eddie on Mar 30^th, 2005, 5:36am

I looks like they are spot welded along the top under the bonnet/hood.

eddie

Title: Re: Fitting an O/S wing
Post by bazw on Mar 30^th, 2005, 6:08am

sorry to say but if you have to ask you dont have the skill base to do it :-[
the wings on these cars are spot welded on as part of the crumpel zone and i think they are what is called high strenth steel (a medium carbon steel that has work hardened when pressed to shape) if you weld them on you are putting to much heat in them and it removes the strenth,to put them on you would need to spot weld them as origonal or plug weld them (drill 6mm holes in the new wing and weld through the holes into the inner wing rail + bottom and sides)
all this while you keep the wing aligned in 3 dimentions so the fit lines and shut lines are right

and just for fun the person who welds the wing on is libel for the safty of the work so if you crash and kill some one because of the repair you go to jail for free or if some one buys the car from you and does it in the future
you got to love the EEC

Title: Re: Fitting an O/S wing
Post by john.n on Mar 30^th, 2005, 5:49pm

Well i have to disagree, i think that anyone with a modicom of weding and diy will find this an easy and rewarding task.There are a couple of hidden screws/bolts to look out for so go carefully. When welding on the new wing, constantly check the gap between the top of the wing and the bonnet and also the bonnet/ wing leading edge. Also the gap where it meets the door. I find the best way is to put my first tack weld up near the screen (dont forget to shield it against splatter) then a second one at the other end.After this get the wing to door gap right before finishing welding. Good luck in your efforts. john.n

Title: Re: Fitting an O/S wing
Post by Pete on Mar 30^th, 2005, 10:14pm

Thanks for the replies, the last time I worked on my car I had the full facilities of my employers to use, this time it will be a hire set from HSS, so I will ponder what to do
Given the value of the car.
I am not put off easily having put a new front end on a Fiesta and forever welding bits into my XR3i, I was just wondering if there were any pitfalls to look out for.

Title: Re: Fitting an O/S wing
Post by bazw on Mar 31^st, 2005, 7:58am

well that means you have the skills level then ;D
be sure to get a mig of good size as some of the little ones @ hss spend more time cooling than welding
drill the holes about 4" apart to plug weld top lip and around behind bumper and underneath behind door shut can be 2-3 1" runs paint inside of wing before fitting with any colour you have to protect it as its easyer to do with the wing off the car and then you only have to get the little areas where you weld painted to stop the wing rusting out in 6 month :)