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(Message started by: Ian_Alfa on Apr 15th, 2005, 7:48pm)

Title: Will oil filter be o.k...
Post by Ian_Alfa on Apr 15th, 2005, 7:48pm
Hi all, noticed on forum referance to "non return valve" on ford oil filter. doing oil change soon on 96 2.0 ,allready have Fram filter part no P.H5803 anyone used one , have i saved a couple of quid to get future probs,does it have required valve any parts guys out there let me know , thanks    Ian....

Title: Re: Will oil filter be o.k...
Post by scorpio_man on Apr 15th, 2005, 10:38pm
hi there

yes, it will be fine. really cheap/ older type filters never had the valve. fram filters are made to OE spec. make sure you use good oil, like croma x-tech sae 5W-30 semi synthetic oil.


hth

Title: Re: Will oil filter be o.k...
Post by Ian_Alfa on Apr 15th, 2005, 11:21pm
5.30 Duckhams o.k? £16.99 5 ltrs got today says "for Ford multivalve, Sorry to ask what some of you may think are obvious , but as a first time Scorp owner of just 3 weeks ill bow to your greater knowledge in the absence of Mr Haynes book thanks Scorpio man.....Ian

Title: Re: Will oil filter be o.k...
Post by scorpio_man on Apr 16th, 2005, 7:53am
hi there

yes, should be fine as long as it's a sae 5W-30 oil. i've found that the ford formula E oil is best but at about £25 for 5 litre, a bit expensive. i try a few others (change my oil a lot), but this croma x-tech(£16) seems good, imo.

hth

Title: Re: Will oil filter be o.k...
Post by Snoopy on Apr 16th, 2005, 8:02am
It is not a " non return" valve it is a full flow bypass filter with a presure valve incorperated into it, that should the filter get blocked in any way the oil will by-pass the filter and still flow around the engine thereby still giving the reuired lubrication,
"Primary filters are standard on most engines. They are also called “full-flow” because 100% of the engine oil passes through them in normal operation. The filters must work without introducing a lot of restriction, or else oil will not flow into the engine during cold start-ups. This is one reason the full-flow filter allows passage of the comparatively small contaminants; trying to catch everything would restrict flow.  If blockage occurs in the filter, bypass valves open. This allows oil to go around the filter and back to the engine. In this situation, lubrication with unfiltered oil is better than none at all.




     


Title: Re: Will oil filter be o.k...
Post by Ian_Alfa on Apr 16th, 2005, 3:24pm
I remembered it was a somethin or other valve" thanks for info Snoopy ,education does not end after school keep up the good work GREAT SITE.... ;) ;) ;) ;)  Ian..

Title: Re: Will oil filter be o.k...
Post by Octavian_P on Apr 18th, 2005, 6:44pm
Verry intresting disscution about oil filters with valve. I'm defently getting a valve one, but there's a question, wich of EFL 600 or EFL 90 (written in scopr. manual) contains a valve, and wich is better ???

Title: Re: Will oil filter be o.k...
Post by Eddie on Apr 18th, 2005, 8:38pm
2.0L is the EFL600.

Have fun and roll up your sleeve,I suggest putting a pile of rags or similar over top of starter motor to catch the gush of oil that comes out!

eddie

Title: Re: Will oil filter be o.k...
Post by martin_rowe on Apr 19th, 2005, 8:41am
fram PH5803 has the valve fitted.
Martin

Title: Re: Will oil filter be o.k...
Post by martin_rowe on Apr 19th, 2005, 8:43am
EFL90 has no valve, EFL600 has one.
Martin

Title: Re: Will oil filter be o.k...
Post by Octavian_P on Apr 19th, 2005, 8:51am
2.0L is the EFL600.

I got a 2.3 16V, is it gonna fit  ???

Title: Re: Will oil filter be o.k...
Post by martin_rowe on Apr 19th, 2005, 10:51am
same on both 16v
Martin

Title: Re: Will oil filter be o.k...
Post by mr._floppy on Apr 19th, 2005, 2:56pm
I'm hoping  that  the Halfords  brand  has  this  feature,   as  I  tend  to  use   their  oil   filters.  

                                    :o

Title: Re: Will oil filter be o.k...
Post by Eddie on Apr 20th, 2005, 5:55pm
Recyled baked bean cans! ;D

eddie

Title: Re: Will oil filter be o.k...
Post by mr._floppy on Apr 20th, 2005, 9:06pm
They may be re-cycled Baked Bean Cans Eddie, but I have been assured  by Halfords that  none of their products are tested on Animals, in fact  some of them are not even tested on cars !

                           ;D :o

Title: Re: Will oil filter be o.k...
Post by martin_rowe on Apr 21st, 2005, 8:35am
only fitted by animals, that aside, halfords do not make oil filters, neither do ford, they all out source, if you look inside the filter through the hole in the middle you can see the valve.
Martin

Title: Re: Will oil filter be o.k...
Post by Ian_Alfa on Apr 25th, 2005, 10:06pm
Martin and Eddie thanks for reply,....



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