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(Message started by: Narsil on Apr 24^th, 2005, 9:07pm)

Title: Cosworth with manual gearbox?
Post by Narsil on Apr 24^th, 2005, 9:07pm

Hi,
Am a proud owner of a 2,0 8v -95 estate since a couple of years.

A couple of problems have started to apear...comes with age I guess.

But the thing that is keeping me up at night is: Is it possible to bolt on a manual gearbox to the wonderful Cosworth engine? And would it be possible for me to shoehorn it down in my car? :)

Well, got some other problems that Ill be posting here soon. Thank you all for contributing to this wonderful page

(ps english is not my native language)

Title: Re: Cosworth with manual gearbox?
Post by SaveTheNight on Apr 24^th, 2005, 9:13pm

bolt on ... not quite ! ... shoehorn ...yes !! .. check under our dealer ref: Powercraft < Box 1 > on the dealer pages ... regards .. STN

http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/traders.htm

Title: Re: Cosworth with manual gearbox?
Post by Narsil on Apr 24^th, 2005, 9:33pm

Thanx Night, you answered my questing mad quick! :)

No to the other part, obviously Ill need an engine, a gearbox plus a conversion kit.

Then what....will I be able to use my old radiator for example....?

Title: Re: Cosworth with manual gearbox?
Post by Baz on Apr 24^th, 2005, 9:36pm

wowee!! I'll take one of everything....b****r the mortgage, b****r the kids food!!

Seriously though, stainless engine cover and battery cover...show me the pictures cos they aint working on the traders page!! I think I have found something to spend all my money on apart from EBay!! I would like a price on a rad though Bill, as the spare I had has a leak around the side panel and drain plug!

Baz

Title: Re: Cosworth with manual gearbox?
Post by SaveTheNight on Apr 24^th, 2005, 9:43pm

Hi Baz ..the engine cover doesnt have a pic yet and it's a bit special mate !! .. I will send you a pic though but there's a few different sorts .. flat polished stainless with laser cut lettering ..folded and shaped around the silver octopus manifold as is the plastic original .. ie: whatever lettering you want < ours have fordscorpio.co.uk ..naturally ..and powercraft engineering ...naturally ..haha >.. but can be laser cut with other lettering ...or there's one with enamel that we are doing right now ..could be UNITEC if required too !! ..Cossie standard rad is under £200 recon ..and our special would have to be discussed as you have contributed to it greatly thanx mate ... full alloy of course .. cheers ...STN

Title: Re: Cosworth with manual gearbox?
Post by SaveTheNight on Apr 24^th, 2005, 9:46pm

Narsil ... no problem .. regarding the car you would be cheaper obtaing a Cossie to start with really ..but yes you can do it with perseverence and we would guide you when the time comes if we can help .. and no you can't get away with your rad ! ...... regards ...STN

Title: Re: Cosworth with manual gearbox?
Post by Baz on Apr 24^th, 2005, 9:48pm

Bill, can I phone you tomorrow with a card number? I would love one of your rads mate!!

The engine cover will look pretty good to I can imagine, one of them next as well, just have to decide which one!!

I just bought a sat nav system for the wifes Galaxy (which she isn't getting till next year!!) but it was a good deal with all the wiring etc!! God I love spending on cars!!

Title: Re: Cosworth with manual gearbox?
Post by SaveTheNight on Apr 24^th, 2005, 9:52pm

course you can Baz ... you can call anytime < even without you're card number !! > ...

Title: Re: Cosworth with manual gearbox?
Post by Baz on Apr 24^th, 2005, 9:53pm

awww sweeet!!

Title: Re: Cosworth with manual gearbox?
Post by Eric_R on Apr 24^th, 2005, 9:53pm

Narsil,
Our 24V engine has been transplanted into other cars, so there is a wealth of experience you can call on if you check out some Kit Car and Car Mods sites.
The 24V will fit okay because the engine is designed to fit into this space. However, it's quite a bit of work. Apart from the engine, you will need all of the following:
engine mounts, radiator.
All of the engine loom, the EECV PCM and the PATS module and transponder and spark and ignition modules.
Propshaft complete.
The exhaust system, EGRVR and tubes.
You would be better getting a diesel 5-speed gearbox and gearbox mounting. It will fit right in and it will have better ratios for the 24V. Better change the differential unit as well - also for the better ratio.
The diesel gearbox bellhousing will bolt straight onto the 24V engine, but you will need a new spigot bearing in the end of the crank. I suggest trying the diesel clutch and flywheel - both engines have similar torque and it should take the power ok.
One more thing, leave the Transmission Range sensor from the gearbox connected to the loom in the P position - this will fool the PCM that the car is not moving and avoid it going into LOS when it can't find the autobox connected.

HTH

Title: Re: Cosworth with manual gearbox?
Post by SaveTheNight on Apr 24^th, 2005, 10:19pm

and of course a clutch PEDAL !! .... pedal box and associated ancilliaries ... etc .... STN

Title: Re: Cosworth with manual gearbox?
Post by Eric_R on Apr 25^th, 2005, 9:37pm

STN,
Narsil has an 8V - so he already has a clutch pedal box ;)

Title: Re: Cosworth with manual gearbox?
Post by SaveTheNight on Apr 25^th, 2005, 10:37pm

ah yes Eric thankyou .. I was assuming Narsil would take my advice about getting a Cossie to start the project with rather than sticking with the eight valve ..

.... or at least that's my excuse !! ... :-[ :-X :-[

... and I was tired ... drunk ? ... ok ok .. I slipped up !! lol ..... STN

Title: Re: Cosworth with manual gearbox?
Post by Baz on Apr 25^th, 2005, 10:38pm

Clutch?? What does that do then!!

Bill, can you pm me with a cost for the rad and postage? I never got chance to call you today!

Thanks

Baz

Title: Re: Cosworth with manual gearbox?
Post by SaveTheNight on Apr 25^th, 2005, 10:42pm

Hiya Baz .. you are talking about the full alloy rad ? ..or the recon Cossie one ... ? .. STN

Title: Re: Cosworth with manual gearbox?
Post by Baz on Apr 25^th, 2005, 11:24pm

Send me both prices....that way I can see how much I'll have left for food this week or wether to tell little Bob Cratchett that turkeys off for a while!!

Title: Re: Cosworth with manual gearbox?
Post by Grant on Apr 25^th, 2005, 11:53pm

Now if you need a project car to demonstrate on STN you know where a freebie one is sitting all taxed, mot'ed and unused!! Sorry I haven't been able to help with the other things yet.

Title: Re: Cosworth with manual gearbox?
Post by SaveTheNight on Apr 26^th, 2005, 6:30am

wow !! good to " see" you Grant !! .. hey ..no probs with the stuff .. whenever you can is fine mate ..and the Scorp ?? .. I thought it would be long gone ? .. talk later then mate .... cheers .. .. STN