Ford Scorpio Forum - Print Page


    
      
        Ford Scorpio Forum
        (https://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl)
      

        General >> Problems >> Glowing Ignition Light
        
(Message started by: mickf on May 7^th, 2005, 9:49am)

Title: Glowing Ignition Light
Post by mickf on May 7^th, 2005, 9:49am

My first post on this board when I joined a couple of years ago (wow - I am still a Newbie ::) )was about a dimly glowing ignition light on my Ultima 24v when I bought it with 54000 on the clock. Various helpful answers were given as to the cause and solution but needless to say I just left it as it was and didn't change the alternator or get it fixed.

I am now up to 89000 miles on the clock, commuting, long journeys, been to Spain and back in it etc. and I have to say that I have noticed no adverse affects to the car by just leaving it. I am on the same battery that was fitted when I bought it too. Other than the gearbox needing replacing just before I drove to Spain last year (good job it broke before I went - nice £1150 bill for recon box and torque convertor) the car hasn't let me down one bit.

I am not saying that best advice is to leave it but my experience is that having left it - it did me no harm.

Title: Re: Glowing Ignition Light
Post by mr._floppy on May 7^th, 2005, 2:07pm

Must be just a indication fault, or stray illumination from an adjacent dashboard bulb causing it to look like the ignition warning is on.

Title: Re: Glowing Ignition Light
Post by Paul_Boulden on May 7^th, 2005, 3:33pm

I have a similar problem on my 96 12v Ultima. The ignition light glows continually. About 2 years ago it just glowed dimly but now it is much brighter and is continuous. It has been suggested that the diode pack may be failing.
Last time I was under the car I noticed the alternator was getting contaminated by PAS fluid, I think I have now stopped the leaking, no change to the ignition light.
I keep intending to sort it out but it doesn`t seem to be affecting anything. Whilst the problem has existed I have had to replace a battery but it seems that it was the original and was probably due for replacement anyway.

Paul Boulden

Title: Re: Glowing Ignition Light
Post by Tobbe on May 7^th, 2005, 3:40pm

I have the same glow on mine but not at all times. When it's glowing I still have 13.6 volts and when I put on all electric stuff it decreases to appr. 12.8 volts. I have put in a new battery but it didn't make any differ so I asume that it is some problems with the regulator or the diodes on the alternator. Have never had any trouble with it though, I just let it glow when it wants to.

Title: Re: Glowing Ignition Light
Post by Eric_R on May 7^th, 2005, 7:47pm

Mick,
This symptom is most often caused by the diode pack failing in the alternator - it may last a year or so but eventually the charging fails, causes the module rests and flicking instrument needles and eventually the car fails to start. However, in your case it clearly isn't the alternator to blame, otherwise it would have failed by now.

An alternative more likely to be the culprit is a poor connection at the alternator, or a dirty/weak connection in the multiplug beneath the battery tray. A poor connection can cause the charge light to glow dimly, even though a good charge is getting to the battery.

If you check the connections to the alternator and the wiring that goes to the battery multiplug you may find that's the cause.

Title: Re: Glowing Ignition Light
Post by Paul B on May 7^th, 2005, 8:52pm

Had a problem like that on an old Cortina for ages.
I changed the battery. And I changed the alternator (twice). Always made sure that the multiplug was pushed onto the back of the alternator of course. Eventually I realised that one of the wires going into the multiplug was loose and not making a proper contact. >:( >:(

The Scorpio is a bit different I suppose, but the point is that it doesn't take much for things to go pear-shaped.

Title: Re: Glowing Ignition Light
Post by mickf on May 8^th, 2005, 10:40am

Thanks for the tip Eric - you might have guessed that I hate dipping under the bonnet and getting my hands dirty ;D It is an intermittent glow and I suspect that you are bang on with the loose connectors theory.

I shall try take a look at the connectors if I can find the time - perhaps even before it is too late ;D

Cheers

Mick F.

Title: Re: Glowing Ignition Light
Post by macw on May 9^th, 2005, 11:33am

I have a 24v with this problem that has been like that for years the garage has never been able to solve it. However my brother had the light come on in his 12V and the alternator died within 4 months. I am not an expert on alternators, how easy is it to get the diode pack and replace it? As it stands I will get no warning of an alternator failure, which I'm not to happy about.

Title: Re: Glowing Ignition Light
Post by macw on Jun 25^th, 2005, 10:35pm

I have a 24V which had the same problem for years. It may be a coincidence but during a thunderstorm on Friday the engine died with a failure of the dash at the same time and while it would still turn over it would not restart. I thought about an alternator failure but surely that would kill the battery, which still turns the car over without a problem? My brother was drivin it at the time so I haven't had a chance to look at it. Any advice what to look for? Can this diode pack be replaced or is a new/reconditioned alternator required.

Anyone got a ODB near Basingstoke?

Thanks.

Title: Re: Glowing Ignition Light
Post by Snoopy on Jun 26^th, 2005, 7:38am

If there is no power to the car other than the starter look to the main fuse links in the fuse box. It the car has experienced some high voltage nearby may be one or two of the main links have blown. listed a " l" "ll" " lll" "lV" in the fuse box.

With regards the diode pack, Yes the diodes can be replaced but it is a fiddley job, its usual to get an exchange alternator.