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(Message started by: madkiss on Jun 25th, 2005, 1:19pm)

Title: Motor starts, then dies down
Post by madkiss on Jun 25th, 2005, 1:19pm
Hi all,

just another problem with my Scorpio: I went to local car garage to get a new transformer coil fitted last wednesday, and noticed that afterwards, my car has a funny effect: I switch the engine on, but it dies immediately down. Then, after another start, the motor just works fine.

The catastrophy came an hour ago: While it was raining, I just sat down in the car, started it, and it died down immediately ... the whole thing about 10 times, and finally, the motor stayed on. What could cause such a strange problem?

Title: Re: Motor starts, then dies down
Post by nitram on Jun 25th, 2005, 3:00pm
That was one of the symptoms with mine until i sorted it this morning - see http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=Problems;action=display;num=1116336389

Not sure if you are suffering any of the other symptoms I had, but it's only a 10 minute job and the gasket was less than £1.50, so it's worth a try.

HTH

Title: Re: Motor starts, then dies down
Post by madkiss on Jun 25th, 2005, 4:05pm
hm ... I am not sure I can follow you. My car is a 2.3i DOHC 16v Scorpio estate car ... so, what am I supposed to check?

Title: Re: Motor starts, then dies down
Post by scorpio_man on Jun 25th, 2005, 4:20pm
hi there

i think he's asking you to give the ivc a clean. have a look at the photo in th link. on the 2.3 it's behind the throttle body. best to give the throttle body a clean while you're there....http://www.btinternet.com/~madmole/HowDoI/Howdoi.html#Modify%20the%20Throttle%20Body

hth

Title: Re: Motor starts, then dies down
Post by madkiss on Jun 25th, 2005, 4:43pm
Okay, so what does "IVC" stand for?

Title: Re: Motor starts, then dies down
Post by madkiss on Jun 25th, 2005, 4:50pm
Oh, and, nitram, say ...

did I get it right that you started your motor, and it stay on, but the revs dropped to a minimum, and you were then able to push them up again without re-starting the car? Because that I what I need to do whenever I encounter the effect. I gott turn the key again, gotta start the motor again ...

By the way: My mother just drove the car some minutes ago, she told me that she had the same problems, and managed to trick the car out by starting it, immediately releasing the hand-brake, thus rolling forward a bit -- the motor obviously did not die down, and she could just drive it home

Title: Re: Motor starts, then dies down
Post by scorpio_man on Jun 25th, 2005, 6:18pm
http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/ccmonitor.htm

about 1/2 down the page.

Title: Re: Motor starts, then dies down
Post by madkiss on Jun 25th, 2005, 7:18pm
What keyword to search for?

Title: Re: Motor starts, then dies down
Post by Simmo on Jun 25th, 2005, 8:53pm
Iddle Control Valve. Simmo

Title: Re: Motor starts, then dies down
Post by madkiss on Jun 26th, 2005, 12:17pm
Okay, if that ICV thing turns out to be not the problem, what would other places be to search? I thought about using OBD and all that, but my notebook has no Serial-port-plug, so I would need to get a USB-Serial-adpter first ...

Title: Re: Motor starts, then dies down
Post by nitram on Jun 27th, 2005, 1:47pm

on 06/25/05 at 16:50:09, madkiss wrote:
Oh, and, nitram, say ...

did I get it right that you started your motor, and it stay on, but the revs dropped to a minimum, and you were then able to push them up again without re-starting the car? Because that I what I need to do whenever I encounter the effect. I gott turn the key again, gotta start the motor again ...

By the way: My mother just drove the car some minutes ago, she told me that she had the same problems, and managed to trick the car out by starting it, immediately releasing the hand-brake, thus rolling forward a bit -- the motor obviously did not die down, and she could just drive it home


That does sound very similar to my problem (I think - I'm having a little trouble reading your English). Sometimes it would stall, sometimes nearly stall. Also the fact that once i got the car moving it seemed OK is similar to yours. It's just a quick, easy and cheap job to start with.



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