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(Message started by: Eric_R on Aug 14^th, 2005, 3:20pm)

Title: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by Eric_R on Aug 14^th, 2005, 3:20pm

Folks,
As discussed in the New forum, I have a new page up on http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/faultfinds.htm It's not on the Menus yet. ;)

Have a look through this for me and see if there's anything I've forgotten. If there is can you remind me with a post here:-

A: Description of Symptom
B: How it was fixed.
C: URL of the site page to which it refers (if any)

I'll update the page with your items and then finish it off. SteveC may be giving it a look to put a fancy front-end on it ;D

Thanks

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by Simmo on Aug 14^th, 2005, 6:11pm

Eric, Page looks great. How about a thread for the remote key fob? This http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/remote.htm, talks about reprogramming but there is no photo of the circuit board or the 'Tag' that I keep posting about which makes the other contact. I'm sure you are familiar with the 'fixes' ie cleaning contacts,conductive paint etc. The subject certainly crops up on a regular basis.

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by Simmo on Aug 14^th, 2005, 6:22pm

Would you consider the MAF in the section about running but'''. When mine packed up the car ran,if you can call it that !,but it was racing one minute then trying to stall the next. The phrase 'ruptured duck' comes to mind!!.

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by Eric_R on Aug 14^th, 2005, 8:05pm

Simmo,

Spot on, m8 - how could I forget the remote?
That link now on - and the remote page updated with the advice. ;D

Your Scorp is a 12V isn't it? The EECV cars run without a MAF at all, but the 12v uses the EECIV. If you'll confirm this I'll add it to the page. ;)

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by Simmo on Aug 14^th, 2005, 8:17pm

Eric,Mine is a 16 valve Ultima. Can PM you the VIN details if you wish. Glad to help. Simmo

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by Eric_R on Aug 14^th, 2005, 10:23pm

Done, thanks Simmo. ;)

Any more suggestions folks?

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by Pursche on Aug 15^th, 2005, 8:00am

In the 'heavy fuel consumption' shouldn't it be a note about faulty Thermostat? On idle my -12v estate wants 1.9 liter per hour because the engine is not warm enought. if I drive on the highway and the engine gets normal temperature its down to 1.3 liter per hour on idle. Someone maybe can change the numbers to gallons.... ::)

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by OHC on Aug 15^th, 2005, 12:47pm

Hello, Eric:

A cause of heavy fuel consumption up to 15 l/100 km on 2.0 16V - dirty/gummed injectors!

Best regs,
OHC

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by Eric_R on Aug 15^th, 2005, 3:17pm

Excellent - thanks guys.

Can't think why I missed those - both added. ;D

Any more for any more?

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by Octavian_P on Aug 15^th, 2005, 10:03pm

Hi Eric great ideea with the fault find.

Maybe these will help

1. In AC problems, lack of fresh air from outside, vacuum motor, vacumm hoses ?

2. HBC control keeps on reseting (turning on/off) when adjusting the speed of the fan. And as a fix the change of the potentimeter.

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by Octavian_P on Aug 15^th, 2005, 10:06pm

1. another thing, hard gear change on manual box, cluch pedal travel un-adjuted, losen screw.

2. when selecting first gear the car tends to start, just an impulse, also from the clutch pedal travel.

This has happend to my scorp.

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by OHC on Aug 16^th, 2005, 7:31am

Hello:

1) Grunching noise from clutch/bell housing + difficulty in shifting gears= primary shaft bearing in the fly-wheel seized/broken!

2) click or knock from rear at start= CV joints

Best regards,
OHC

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by Simmo on Aug 16^th, 2005, 7:56am

Eric, See post 12 today from Ricky re 'No lights' !. This has to be unusual but perhaps indicates that even after the 'experts' have been at it there are checks you can make!!.

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by Eric_R on Aug 16^th, 2005, 6:41pm

Excellent, guys. All done ;D

Keep 'em coming.

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by Geoff_W on Aug 16^th, 2005, 11:19pm

Eric

Small thing but if intermittent CD failure check the earth at the autochanger before pulling the radio.

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by Eric_R on Aug 17^th, 2005, 7:39pm

Geoff,
Yep - I'd like to add that one. Where was the earth poor? Was it inside the plug itself or at the ground connection?

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by Geoff_W on Aug 17^th, 2005, 10:29pm

Hi Eric,

I will check it out and get back to you, I think its a poor/intermittent ground connection

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by scorpio_man on Aug 18^th, 2005, 8:39am

hi eric

you could put in this.....

putting the timer (saver) module in diagnostic mode for checking the light switches etc,

switch on ignition
hold in rear heated windscreen button for a count of 10.
while holding the button in, start engine.
let go of button.
unit is now in diagnostic mode. everything which uses the unit will beep to indicate it's fully operational.
ie open a door and if the door switch is ok, you will get a beep to confirm this.

regards

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by Octavian_P on Aug 18^th, 2005, 9:00am

Hi Eric

I don't really know where it should be put, but you can also write about dashboard reset, and a link to the codes. (battery check, speed check etc.)

Cheers

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by Eric_R on Aug 18^th, 2005, 12:24pm

Good work, guys ;D

Thanks Geoff.
Thanks for that, Scorpio_Man - text added.
Octavian - the Instrument reset was there, on the needles flick round item - but I've added more text to make it obvious. ;)

Anyone else think of anything? :D

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by dart on Aug 20^th, 2005, 8:43pm

Cricky,Nice work Eric!
Sorry only just seen the post,Superb pages,helpfull or what!
Cheers mate
Neil :D

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by dart on Aug 20^th, 2005, 9:05pm

What about that infernal trip commputer mode switch?
If an led blows or one of the switches stops working do we have to buy a new unit?
Had a good look through,I don't think it's mentioned!

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by Eric_R on Aug 21^st, 2005, 3:17pm

Yes, good thinking Dart. ;D

Done, thanks.

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by Silver_Poppy on Aug 21^st, 2005, 10:25pm

Is it worth mentioning that coolant loss could also be as a result of a leaking heater matrix and all the curry smells associated with it, linking to matrix replacement etc. and maybe a link to say that you have to retrain the drivers door window one-touch up/down function after battery disconection, just a thought

S.P.

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by Eric_R on Aug 22^nd, 2005, 1:44am

SP -
They're on there, m8. ???

Have you got your glasses on, LOL

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by SaveTheNight on Aug 23^rd, 2005, 9:35pm

Hiya Eric ..

Quote:

Geoff,
Yep - I'd like to add that one. Where was the earth poor? Was it inside the plug itself or at the ground connection?

it's the changer plug end ..about four to six inches back up the loom ..peel back the insulation and the poor wrap around earth connection will be seen ..solder accordingly ... STN

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by dart on Aug 24^th, 2005, 12:35am

What about that Clonking,wineing,scraping,knocking,clanking,whizzing,wirhring,binding,pinging,pineing,bumping,pumping,droneing,dieing,crackling,fizzing,jerking,screaming,bonging,banging,clacking,hissin,spluttering,spurting,thumping,plodding,screaching,searing,clicking,clumping,plodding,ploughing,crunching,grinding,tappin...... :-/

You cannot beat being a Scorps owner!
Bless this car ;)
First class pages Eric :D

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by Octavian_P on Aug 24^th, 2005, 10:44am

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Verry good point there Dart
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Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by Geoff_W on Aug 24^th, 2005, 12:35pm

Well Dart, technically thats called NVH (Noise Vibration and Harshness) and the reason you can hear that lot is that the Scorpio is really quiet ;D ;D

Much quieter than previous generations of big Ford 8)

Now if its snap crackle and pop its your breakfast cereal ;)

Geoff

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by Eric_R on Aug 24^th, 2005, 4:02pm

on 08/23/05 at 21:35:42, SaveTheNight wrote:

Hiya Eric ..

it's the changer plug end ..about four to six inches back up the loom ..peel back the insulation and the poor wrap around earth connection will be seen ..solder accordingly ... STN

STN,
Yep, that's done, m8. Thanks. ;D ;D

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by Cosray - The Hague - Holland on Aug 29^th, 2005, 2:23pm

Item suggestion

Instrument Cluster 24v

one or more Closures indicator lights (is that the right term?) stay ON

check/replace loom & switches

test/replace relevant door lock module (this is NOT the window control module in passenger door)

+ other relevant measures I may have missed!

HTH, Ray

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by dart on Aug 29^th, 2005, 8:47pm

Door open/closed instrument display on the dash?
not sure ??? Hope that's what is ment?

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by Cosray - The Hague - Holland on Sep 3^rd, 2005, 3:16pm

Hi, thought is it called closures since it comprises of doors as well as hood and boot.

Anyway yes, the car icon with the open doors!
Apparently, in (my) the drivers door there are 2 electronic control modules: one controlling windows (you do not want that one) and one controlling the lock position of that door, so I am told.
The latter is (as it turns out in my case) the faulty one, producing open/closed door symbols on the 'closures' icon.

HTH, Ray

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by Highlander on Sep 4^th, 2005, 10:50pm

The issue of the towbar for the late Scorpios has come up on another thread, I dont know the ins and outs of it but the latter ones had to have a different towbar for some reason i think, could we add that in somewhere once the reason has been unearthed?

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by John on Sep 4^th, 2005, 11:07pm

And how do you clean the contacts on the Exhaust Oxegen sensor. I sure I seen somewhere it being said that you can. I mean £100 a time for one of these is poor.

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by Eric_R on Sep 5^th, 2005, 11:51am

on 09/03/05 at 15:16:35, Cosray - The Hague - Holland wrote:

Anyway yes, the car icon with the open doors!
Apparently, in (my) the drivers door there are 2 electronic control modules: one controlling windows (you do not want that one) and one controlling the lock position of that door, so I am told.
The latter is (as it turns out in my case) the faulty one, producing open/closed door symbols on the 'closures' icon.

HTH, Ray

Ray, yes that's right. The door lock module is mounted on the lock barrel, and includes the Door Ajar switch. I'll add that, thanks.

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by Eric_R on Sep 5^th, 2005, 11:56am

on 09/04/05 at 23:07:26, John wrote:

And how do you clean the contacts on the Exhaust Oxegen sensor. I sure I seen somewhere it being said that you can. I mean £100 a time for one of these is poor.

John,
Do you mean the electrical contacts? These are cleaned by pulling off the multiplug. The actual sensor itself can't be cleaned as such. There are solutions you can add to petrol that is supposed to rejuvenate sensors and catalysts, but I have had no reports if they work. Has anyone tried them?

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by John on Sep 6^th, 2005, 7:51pm

Thanks to Eric for the inflo. I did not know what I meant, (just heard) but I do know now, thanks to you.
So you fail the mot. 1st. undo the multiplug and clean the terminals, if that don't do it. run the car for say a hundred miles with some injector cleaner in the fuel. (The trouble is I alway run the car on the extra priced higher grade petrol, so surely, should not need to do that.
after that, its £100 plus fitting for a new sensor. mine car had only done 60,000 miles. and only 2,000 since the mot the last year when it past OK. still got the unanswered question of why the constance 23 MPG comes crashing down to 17 MPG and is remaining there.

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by Cosray - The Hague - Holland on Sep 8^th, 2005, 8:29pm

As an addition to Instrument Panel Lights not working:

Instruments Lights + Clock go dim and finally die

In my case contact nr. 15 of the cableside multiplug at the back of the main rotary light switch had gone bad.

It must have corroded or otherwise but in due course burnt itself up and finally extinguished the instrument panel lights + clock.

The male connector pin nr. 15 on the back of the rotary light switch looked blackened but being copper, could be cleaned. It had lost it stiffness though and bent easily.

The cablesided multiplug female contactset consisting of 2 claws of apparently weaker galvanised material had to be bent back into 'biting' shape. Once that was done careful rejoining ofmultiplug and connector did the job.

The rotary light switch can be easily replaced; soldering on a new female multiplug - if at all available - must be hell.

If necessary one could bypass multiplug and switch connector by cleverly soldering on a longer, flexible bypass lead. Please contact me if any questions.

HTH, Ray

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by Cosray - The Hague - Holland on Sep 8^th, 2005, 9:01pm

Website -- Forum routing topics

1) Maybe a tad off-topic but a returning nag.
Once I am in Forums I CANNOT easily return to the website, as there is no link, top nor bottom of page, to it...
On each webpage there is a link to the forums...
When I hit Home I am taken to Forum Home...

2) How can we reach the webmaster directly for this type of suggestions without bothering the forummembers with them?
Or could there be a small section "Web & Forum topics"?

3) Also, I do not quite understand the boundaries of the Give Advice to Others Forum. It seems an extension of Problems, as posters must have posted a problem first!

3) Finally, I use the magnificent and recommendable MAXTHON Tabbed BRowser (IE6 extension).
In it, right now, I have 5 forum issues and 8 webspages open on tab. The website tabs all show the corresponding page titles, which great for switching between them.
The Forum Tabs however all identically show a mile-long sentence going:
"Free to use and NOT pay as you go - Information and discussion for owners and enthousiasts supported by the UK's best free pay as you go ISP"
Can that be changed to Forumtitle or even Topictitle?

HTH, Ray

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by Highlander on Sep 8^th, 2005, 9:38pm

The Give advice to to others is for sharing solutions to problems we have found
eg Lockys broken cable thread
but there is a certain "overlap" of the two

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by stafford on Sep 8^th, 2005, 10:09pm

the effort put into this site is absolutely amazing.... it really is!!!!! :) :)

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by Simmo on Sep 9^th, 2005, 6:03am

Cosray, If you click on the title heading banner FORD SCORPIO that will take you to the 'welcome' page. Is that what you are looking for?.If you click on about us and scroll to the bottom of the page there is an e-mail link to the Webmaster.

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by Cosray - The Hague - Holland on Sep 9^th, 2005, 3:13pm

Thanks Simmo, sometimes things are so big I at least do not see them!

[] Stafford: The amount of information on this site as well as in the Forums is so overwhelming and quality rich I get totally absorbed by it. Putting it toghether and keeping it apprehendable is a major task, I know!

Our webmasters and contributors earn a loud applause from this side of the channel!

Ray

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by Eric_R on Sep 10^th, 2005, 11:39am

on 09/04/05 at 22:50:52, Highlander wrote:

I've not been able to find that, m8. I understood that the Granada and the Scorpio can both be fitted with the same aftermarket tow bar because the floorpans are the same. The Ford towbars don't show a change AFAICT.

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by Eric_R on Sep 10^th, 2005, 11:40am

on 09/08/05 at 20:29:10, Cosray - The Hague - Holland wrote:

As an addition to Instrument Panel Lights not working:

Instruments Lights + Clock go dim and finally die

HTH, Ray

Ray,
Yes, I've added that, thanks. ;)

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by Eric_R on Sep 10^th, 2005, 11:43am

on 09/08/05 at 21:01:17, Cosray - The Hague - Holland wrote:

Website -- Forum routing topics

3) Finally, I use the magnificent and recommendable MAXTHON Tabbed BRowser (IE6 extension).
In it, right now, I have 5 forum issues and 8 webspages open on tab. The website tabs all show the corresponding page titles, which great for switching between them.
The Forum Tabs however all identically show a mile-long sentence going:
"Free to use and NOT pay as you go - Information and discussion for owners and enthousiasts supported by the UK's best free pay as you go ISP"
Can that be changed to Forumtitle or even Topictitle?

HTH, Ray

Ray,
That's a bit of advertising to help pay for the Gb used every month! We'll have a look at that.

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by Highlander on Sep 10^th, 2005, 3:49pm

Im sure someone had a problem with it, was it Baz?

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by Cosray - The Hague - Holland on Sep 13^th, 2005, 6:08pm

Radio reception reasonable on FM stations; LW + MW stations completely gone or intermittent

Complaint

Strong local FM stations come in reasonably; longer distance FM stations sound hissing and play in mono; no stations on LW (e.g. Radio 4, Deutschlandfunk, RTL) nor MW (BBC World, Radio London, Hilversum 1 etc.).

Test

When scratching aerial with a metal object such as keys no sound effect is heard on LW + MW. This means the aerial is shorted against ground. This test does not work on FM by its very nature.

Cause

Either the cable mantle in the radio plug has become 'hairy' and shorts the inner hot wire, or the roof mount aerial fastening is shorted.

In the latter case the tubular spacer, which isolates the 'hot' bolt from the housing going through the roof to the aerial assembly is rotated or cracked and shorts with the grounded outside.
This may be caused by sun heat or freezing temperatures, wash tunnel incidents, vandalism.

Remedy

Carefully remove the front interior lights. Unscrew the single visible aerial connecting bolt holding cable and mantle; replace inner tubular isolator with e.g. a sawn-off ballpoint case, or any stiff tubular isolator about 5 mm wide; lenght about 5 mm.

Test radio reception on LW + MW!
It should be crackle- and hissfree; keys scratching aerial should produce hell-of-a-noise.
FM will always reasonable work albeit this shortened cable length and strong local transmitters so, do not use for a reception test.

In the other case: pull the radio from its location using the proper keys and, while on LW / MW, juggle the aerial plug and its cable. When occasionally reception breaks through: repair plug and cable.

HTH, Ray

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by Octavian_P on Sep 14^th, 2005, 10:41am

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by Eric_R on Sep 14^th, 2005, 11:21pm

Ray,
Put that on, thanks.

Octavian,
Check the connections to the rear of the radio. It might be the remote module giving trouble, but it sounds as if the radio tuner is developing a fault.

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by Cosray - The Hague - Holland on Sep 15^th, 2005, 8:09am

Just a quick question about the radio, what could be wrong if the radio on FM has a interuptions in recieving and sometimes for a fraction of a second gets another channel and then reverts back. ( i have checkd with clip on/off, with TA, PTY, on/off etc no cure what so ever)

Octavian,
This is 'normal' RDS functionality, alas.
What happens is that each FM station, that supports RDS, silently transmits a 'table of transmitter frequencies' (among others). This is often called AF = Alternate Frequencies.

This enables your radio's software to, once the current transmitter signal shows a weakening tendency (either in a built-up area or when moving away from teh transmitter) to scan for stronger signals with the same Program ID.

In the Ford radios however this is not elegantly supported technically and that's why you have these dropouts from time to time, once you are in 'weak' signal area.

Only way to stop this in your case is to switch the RDS modus to OFF, which can be done pressing SELECT for 3 seconds or longer.
More modern radios have a switch for AF OFF.
Ford's do not.

HTH, Ray

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by Octavian_P on Sep 15^th, 2005, 6:05pm

Thank you for help, i will try and i'll keep you poseted with the results

Cheers

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by Eric_R on Sep 15^th, 2005, 10:11pm

on 09/15/05 at 08:09:34, Cosray - The Hague - Holland wrote:

Octavian,
This is 'normal' RDS functionality, alas.
What happens is that each FM station, that supports RDS, silently transmits a 'table of transmitter frequencies' (among others). This is often called AF = Alternate Frequencies.

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by Octavian_P on Sep 16^th, 2005, 7:02am

on 09/15/05 at 08:09:34, Cosray - The Hague - Holland wrote:

Only way to stop this in your case is to switch the RDS modus to OFF, which can be done pressing SELECT for 3 seconds or longer.
More modern radios have a switch for AF OFF.
Ford's do not.

HTH, Ray

Forgot to say it is a 5000 unit, and i do have AF on/ off if i keep the menu button pressed for a while, the radio then has a menu with, AF, TA, VID (vehicle ID)...and so on.

In this morning i have switched off the AF and for 10 minutes it seemed fine.... will try more

PS: couldn't find select button ???

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by Cosray - The Hague - Holland on Sep 22^nd, 2005, 1:05pm

Ray,
I have never experienced this once on my 7000 radio in the 7 years I've owned it. It would be very irritating for this to happen all the time and I wonder why we've not heard a comment about this before. Isn't it more likely to be a fault - or is yours the same?

Been away; just checking posts!
Mine is a 2007 RDS EON CD keycode.

Most 'earlier' RDS radios such as mine had this problem since they were using the same specific RDS controller IC + software.

That's why most of them have/had a switch for AF ON/OFF (Alternate Frequency) In the 2007 that switch is not present; all you could do is switch RDS OFF.

Some less critical listeners do not notice it. I have had passengers like that on board!

Now the 'new' generation radios 5/6/7000 have newer innards and software, so the phenomenon is not or rarely heard.

HTH, Ray

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by Cosray - The Hague - Holland on Sep 22^nd, 2005, 1:14pm

Octavian, see my reply # 55.
My 'old' 2007 radio has a 'select button'; yours has 'menu' and allows you to switch off AF.

You could test whether the switch works by experiencing increasing hiss and changeover to Mono when you drive away from the current transmitter station.

Should you at that point revert to AF ON, switch the set OFF/ON, you will hear/see the station change to a new, stronger frequency.

HTH, Ray

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by Octavian_P on Sep 22^nd, 2005, 7:24pm

Thank you Cosray, by disabling the AF cured it, it's been a few days of nice radio listening without that annoying cut off's and radio changes. Will try to enable it when i'll get out of town.

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by Eric_R on Oct 8^th, 2005, 2:38pm

on 09/22/05 at 13:05:57, Cosray - The Hague - Holland wrote:

Most 'earlier' RDS radios such as mine had this problem since they were using the same specific RDS controller IC + software.

That's why most of them have/had a switch for AF ON/OFF (Alternate Frequency) In the 2007 that switch is not present; all you could do is switch RDS OFF.

Some less critical listeners do not notice it. I have had passengers like that on board!

Now the 'new' generation radios 5/6/7000 have newer innards and software, so the phenomenon is not or rarely heard.

HTH, Ray

Thanks Ray. I've amended the Fault Finder with this info. ;D

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by chris_d on Oct 16^th, 2005, 8:20pm

hi eric your fault finding pages the sun roof leak you advise cleaning the drains my scorpio sun roof leaks like that but it was'nt the drains and i cant find where it is leaking its annoying

Title: leak
Post by gaza on Oct 25^th, 2005, 1:28pm

can any one help iseem to have aleak under the car not sure if its the
gearbox if so what could be causing this can it be fixed by me
ford s ult estate 2lauto thanks gary

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by Highlander on Oct 25^th, 2005, 5:12pm

You need to get under and have a look for the source (Good weather for it ;)), is it gearbox oil? engine oil? coolant? or it might just be off the aircon which is normal.

Could be a number of things, check the gearbox oil cooler pipes etc

http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/coolerpipes.htm

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by Geoff_W on Oct 29^th, 2005, 12:29pm

Hi Eric

Cruise Control Not Working - currently on problems page, when we get a fix for this it may be worth adding to the Faults Page.

Geoff

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by BrianT on Nov 7^th, 2005, 2:34pm

Really helpful stuff. I now have a list of things to do on my scorp. Under transmission, do you have any info you could post on kickdown? My car has no kickdown at all , although the transmission is otherwise ok, and I'd love to know whether it's a simple DIY fix or a big FMD job.

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by Snoopy on Nov 7^th, 2005, 5:49pm

What car is it it depends on the model and type with regards Kickdown.
On the 12v there is a switch on the EEC1V equipped cars its EEC controlled.

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by BrianT on Nov 8^th, 2005, 9:19am

It's a 96 Ultima Estate 2.3. Does that help?

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by Snoopy on Nov 8^th, 2005, 9:32am

Does NOT have kick down Switch. its controlled by the eec. so you are not able to adjust it.
Have a read of http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/eecv.htm

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by BrianT on Nov 8^th, 2005, 10:17pm

:-/
Hmm...sounds like a main dealer job. Maybe not too pricey though hopefully.

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by kskjon on Nov 10^th, 2005, 12:31am

I've got a couple of possible additions to the fault finding page..

Car won't start - cause was dead battery:

http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=Problems;action=display;num=1130959464;start=

Clutch wouldn't operate - cause was faulty master cylinder:

http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=Problems;action=display;num=1129222682;start=

And on the last one, one cannot underestimate the importance of proper bleeding ;)

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by ralphie on Nov 26^th, 2005, 2:33pm

Hello Eric,
It would help if something about poor heating was on your page.
Ralphie

Title: Re: no spark ????????????????? 2.9 -- 12 valve
Post by daz1969 on Dec 12^th, 2005, 1:04pm

Hi can anyone help ?? i have a 2.9 12-valve it just lost its spark i have changed the coil / i have changed the ignition modual on the dizzy / i have had the e.c.u checked no probs there the eye in the dizzy lookes good the fuse boxes are ok --------------what is left its cost me £130 and it still wont spark' short ov sticking clipper lighters in instead of plugs i dont know what to check next ????????

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by Dave on Dec 12^th, 2005, 1:37pm

Daz,

suggest you start a new thread in the "Problems" section. For what its worth have you checked the crank sensor and wiring?

Cheers

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by Snoopy on Dec 12^th, 2005, 3:11pm

Its aprocess of illimination,
1. Are you getting 12v on one side of the coil?

2. If yes then it has to be linked to either the distributor or the coil if No then look to the fuses and relays, Well worth checking them all

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by martin_rowe on Dec 12^th, 2005, 4:20pm

looking on the dark side, is your dizzy turning.

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by Highlander on Feb 1^st, 2006, 11:21am

Due to the increasing number of people finding themselves locked out when the remote fails and then finding out the locks have siezed due to under use, would it be an idea to have a few points such as this and the battery cover issue etc in a "preventative fault" section??

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by meggan on Feb 21^st, 2006, 9:24am

I have puy new battries in my key fob - but I still cant open or close my doors using the the remote control. With all the
experts out there can someone please advise what I do next !!

MEGGAN >:( >:(

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by Simmo on Feb 21^st, 2006, 9:50am

Megan, read this http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/remote_repair.htm and also use the link of the left of the page 'reprogramming the remote'. There are two methods, one shown in the handbook and one on the site. The handbook is on the site if you don't have one. This thread was started to set up the 'Fault Finding' link so if you get a problem you need help with,or this page doesn't help, try posting under 'Problems' as that is the first place most people go to.

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by cristian_t70 on Feb 22^nd, 2006, 2:14pm

What is the temperature when both fans start to run in high speed 2.3 16v from 1996.
thanks.
cristian.

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by meggan on Feb 24^th, 2006, 11:29am

Simmo
Many thanks for your advice - everything works perfectly
now

MEGGAN :D ;D

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by sally on Mar 1^st, 2006, 10:33pm

the earth on the cd player , is it in the wiring loom coil or where as im not sure if my car hve one , and my boot cd changer is not working at all ? some one said it could be the fuse if so would that be in the cd player or in the radio wot is inside the car ? ??? please help want ma car to be wot it should be think this one havent had to much tlc :'( my bulb hve fell out of thr right place in the cigarett holder and when i try to move it back in to place it make the rev counter and speedo light up , so this little connection do seem to mix up the eletric s lii hve another try tomorrow to get that back in to place. sal

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by sally on Mar 1^st, 2006, 10:36pm

on 02/21/06 at 09:24:51, meggan wrote:

it could be the prob we had bits inside the fob were touching and shorting out , had to get a new key fob it wernt the batteries , and the new key ob hve to be reprogramed

Title: Re: Fault-Finding page - your help?
Post by jonnycab on Apr 8^th, 2006, 8:20pm

About the heater matrix removal. It might be a good idea to suggest removing the foot brake (auto) as it gives much better access.