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(Message started by: Octavian_P on Aug 30^th, 2005, 2:47pm)

Title: Wheels adjusting
Post by Octavian_P on Aug 30^th, 2005, 2:47pm

Hello to all !!

It's been a while with no major problems for me, hope it will last this way.

The thing i want to ask is that sombody knows the angles of wheels alighment. I have changed the steering rods on my scorp (and a few bushes on the wishbones) i now must do the geometry, but in my country this model of car is so scarce and i'm afraid to go "onto the mechanics hand". So theres anything special to known abou the scorp. Also the reare wheels need adjusting ? if so HOW ? ::)

Also i metion that the cars pulls a bit to the right

Thanks and cheers !

Title: Re: Wheels adjusting
Post by joe_murphy on Aug 30^th, 2005, 2:53pm

i sugest you get laser dynamic wheel alignment its not expensive and saves money in the long run on tyre wear
kind regards joe murphy
ps they technicians that do it carry every make of veihicle and its requirements

Title: Re: Wheels adjusting
Post by mr._floppy on Aug 31^st, 2005, 10:31am

I don't think the rear wheels can be adjusted for steering geometry.

Title: Re: Wheels adjusting
Post by joe_murphy on Aug 31^st, 2005, 11:44am

the set up of the rear axle geometry can be changed however it very rarely moves position you take this into effect when setting up toein/out etc
kind regards joe
ps octavian ill ring a mate today find out the set up there is no exact length to steering track rods as the wear throughout the front system requires different lengths for different vehicle wear

Title: Re: Wheels adjusting
Post by Octavian_P on Aug 31^st, 2005, 11:57am

Thanks for the repplys

Now i'll wait for the setup.

Cheers

Title: Re: Wheels adjusting
Post by mr._floppy on Aug 31^st, 2005, 4:31pm

A good start will be adjusting each track rod so that the same amount of thread is showing. A good sign is if that the steering wheel is reluctant to self centre on left or right hand full lock ( i.e. the car will tend to go round in circles ) it shows that there is too much TOE-IN.

If the tyres tend to squeal going round even a modest corner at low speed then there is too much TOE-OUT.

Title: Re: Wheels adjusting
Post by Octavian_P on Aug 31^st, 2005, 4:58pm

Well the car pulls right, and on every corner it squeals like it'll leave it's rubbers there. As for the steering rods, when put on the car, the thred form the old ones was measured and the new ones "recieved" the same amount of twists. Another wierd thing is that on rough ground the steering wheel tends to move and if i leave it free eventualy it'll pull away in some direction....but not straight. My mecahnic told me that a bush from the right front wishbone it's on it's way out.

Title: Re: Wheels adjusting
Post by Snoopy on Aug 31^st, 2005, 8:07pm

the steering maual; is here http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/steermanual.htm
and on the main site is all the technical date for each and ervey car just need to find it.

Toe in, camber angles, etc. etc. have a look around.

Title: Re: Wheels adjusting
Post by Scorpioen84 on Aug 31^st, 2005, 10:13pm

OffTopic.. that page got som text posission problems..

After mounting H&R sport springs i think i need a bit adjusting on the rear to, so there is NO way to do this.?
Im woried about my brand new 100GBP a piece tyres... And the car has always voren the tyres on the inner 5cm`s, so i gues this might get a bit worse with a stiffer/lower car..,?

BTW, sport springs is here by recomened.! stiffer , only 2cm lower, and almost half the price of genuine ford`s.. (My opinion.. But not the prize, i laught and walked out of the garage..)

Title: Re: Wheels adjusting
Post by Octavian_P on Sep 1^st, 2005, 5:34pm

Hy Snoops

I have searched the site a lot, could not find the data ::) but i have found on the net a-kind-of-hynes manual, to be more exactly a information pdf on the car. It is said there that:

Toe-in(+) / Toe-out(-)

mm 2.0+/-1.0
Camber -27'+/-15'
Castor 4*50'+/-40'

where * is the degree symbol and the ' is the minute symbol.

Now if sombody could explain what toe-in/toe-out, camber and castor mean i'll really apreciate it. In romanian in wheel aligmnet we have convergence/ divergence ( in horizontal plane) and fall angle (in vertical plane).

Title: Re: Wheels adjusting
Post by Snoopy on Sep 1^st, 2005, 7:05pm

Its all explained here for you http://www.carbibles.com/tyre_bible.html

Title: Re: Wheels adjusting
Post by Octavian_P on Sep 2^nd, 2005, 8:04am

Thank's Snoopy now it's a lot more clear !!!

Cheers m8 ;)