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(Message started by: Paul B on Feb 7th, 2006, 7:43pm)

Title: Trouble Wiv Me Nuts!
Post by Paul B on Feb 7th, 2006, 7:43pm
Been having some difficulty with various nuts & bolts on this car (the undoing of I mean).

Now I've really reached a problem one... the sump plug.

I've never touched this one myself, but the muppet that did it at the last service has really done it up tight. I can't shift it at all.
And... now its rounding over too!  how the hell am I going to remove it?   ???


Title: Re: Trouble Wiv Me Nuts!
Post by nuttyscorp on Feb 7th, 2006, 7:47pm
mouldgrips? or try cutting a slot in the head with a hacksaw, and remove with ratchet and flatbladded screwdriver piece, failing that gentle persuasion with a hammer and cold chisel.

Russ

Title: Re: Trouble Wiv Me Nuts!
Post by Wafoo on Feb 7th, 2006, 7:53pm
yup,molegrips and thingy it with a hammer

Title: Re: Trouble Wiv Me Nuts!
Post by easyrider66 on Feb 7th, 2006, 7:56pm
Try a Metrinch socket, these grip on the flats, not the corners.

:)

Title: Re: Trouble Wiv Me Nuts!
Post by allenjames on Feb 7th, 2006, 8:15pm
Jesus - that must be tight !

Mine is a ally sump with a sump plug with a plastic washer ?

Title: Re: Trouble Wiv Me Nuts!
Post by Paul B on Feb 7th, 2006, 8:22pm
It is an alloy sump but I have to admit, I can't see a plastic washer in there.

I have all new stuff ready to go back but just need this one out. Dunno why its so tight!

Title: Re: Trouble Wiv Me Nuts!
Post by ricky on Feb 7th, 2006, 8:24pm
tap the side with a sharp chisel that will free it then fit new nut and washer

Title: Re: Trouble Wiv Me Nuts!
Post by Paulus on Feb 8th, 2006, 2:38pm
It may have been glued on with loctite. I have come across this on several motorbikes. If the previous idiot owner has either crossed the threads (easily done with alloy) or stripped them (again...easy) the only other way to seal the plug is to glue it.

Title: Re: Trouble Wiv Me Nuts!
Post by mr._floppy on Feb 8th, 2006, 4:46pm
Don't know about molegrips, they sure do make a mess    ( I've ruined a few caliper bleed screws with 'em  ),  firstly  get a replacement sump plug  ,    get a big sharp  cold chisel and a big hammer, find the address of the previous  owner,  pay him a visit   and  do some remedial dental work with  the said chisel and hammer, No, No, only kidding,    this board does not  condone   vengeance attacks,    ( just draw him a cartoon,     Ooooh!  satire :D)

     Whack it  hard   in  the  anti-clockwise  direction,    that should  loosen it .

     

Title: Re: Trouble Wiv Me Nuts!
Post by Paul B on Feb 8th, 2006, 6:08pm
Well, I have new plug at the ready, but I still can't shift it  :-[

I've tried grips, sockets, a hammer and chisel and it still aint moving!
Its not easy while laying on the garage floor, but what I have managed to notice today, is that whoever did it last time has used a metal washer  >:(

I've now given up I'm afraid. This is going to have to go to a garage for someone else to burst a bloodvessel over.


Mr Floppy... visiting the previous owner is starting to sound good. Mind you, it was probably the garage I used for the last service  :-/

Title: Re: Trouble Wiv Me Nuts!
Post by PFJE on Feb 8th, 2006, 7:53pm
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Always undo the Sump Bolt when the engine is stone cold overnight, works for me every time.
Heat makes metal expands as can be difficult to undo.

Title: Re: Trouble Wiv Me Nuts!
Post by Paul B on Feb 8th, 2006, 10:08pm
Stone cold?

Its been sat around unstarted for 3 months.

i'm sure its cooled down enough by now  ;)

Title: Re: Trouble Wiv Me Nuts!
Post by nuttyscorp on Feb 8th, 2006, 10:13pm

on 02/08/06 at 22:08:57, Paul B wrote:
Stone cold?

Its been sat around unstarted for 3 months.

i'm sure its cooled down enough by now  ;)


it has been rather hot in Ashford lately paul  ;D

Russ

Title: Re: Trouble Wiv Me Nuts!
Post by ForeverFord on Feb 8th, 2006, 10:19pm
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Spray loads of WD40 or anything like '3 in 1' Oil for few hours then dry off around the bolt shape and its should be able to undo, if not then that shows it possible had been strewed back on by power/air tool which shouldn't have been done!
Other trick is put an old cloth over the bolt and a next sized spanner to help to get grip to undo.
Worth an try though!  ;)

Title: Re: Trouble Wiv Me Nuts!
Post by Paul B on Feb 8th, 2006, 10:33pm

on 02/08/06 at 22:13:09, nuttyscorp wrote:
it has been rather hot in Ashford lately paul  ;D

Russ



:D  :D  :D


I've tried all I can try.

Like I said before, its not easy on your back when the cars on stands.
I think I need to have it on a lift or over a pit.

Title: Re: Trouble Wiv Me Nuts!
Post by solarpanel on Feb 8th, 2006, 10:56pm
have you got a welder, ifso weld a lenght of flat steel to the bolt then undo

Title: Re: Trouble Wiv Me Nuts!
Post by Paul B on Feb 12th, 2006, 8:06pm
Well, I have a bit of an update.

The troublesome sump nut has finally come off! More heating, hitting and chiselling eventually did the trick.

This is how the old one looks now its off...
:o


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/PCBoulton/SumpNutremoved.jpg



Many thanks today to Russ (nuttyscorp) and Paul (paulscorp).  This wouldn't have got done today if they hadn't come round and got stuck in. Cheers again guys... I owe you one.  :)

Title: Re: Trouble Wiv Me Nuts!
Post by paulscorp on Feb 13th, 2006, 7:01am
It really was a pleasure Paul, glad we could finally be of assistance.

A job well done i reckon!!

Lets hope yours nuts will be fine from now on  }{

regards

Paul

Title: Re: Trouble Wiv Me Nuts!
Post by nuttyscorp on Feb 13th, 2006, 1:40pm

on 02/13/06 at 07:01:45, paulscorp wrote:
It really was a pleasure Paul, glad we could finally be of assistance.

A job well done i reckon!!

Lets hope yours nuts will be fine from now on  }{

regards

Paul


ditto.......hope your dads not to mad with you regarding the oil slick :-X

Russ

Title: Re: Trouble Wiv Me Nuts!
Post by Paul B on Feb 13th, 2006, 6:16pm
I just got back home from an attempt at cleaning up the slick... It aint looking good  :-[

Maybe it will look better in the morning  :-/

Title: Re: Trouble Wiv Me Nuts!
Post by ForeverFord on Feb 13th, 2006, 6:22pm
Try pour Coke Cola and let is soak for an bit then clean up with cloth.
;)



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