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(Message started by: bootiful-scorpios on Mar 10^th, 2006, 10:06pm)

Title: red key
Post by bootiful-scorpios on Mar 10^th, 2006, 10:06pm

did all scorpios hve these? is the whole key red or do it hve a red spot in the corner ?

Title: Re: red key
Post by bootiful-scorpios on Mar 10^th, 2006, 11:17pm

the man i got the car off said this car dident hve a red key as its a 1998? was he telling me porkies? and can some one send a link to a pic of a red key please as i cant find one on site and there must be one , i only hve 1 key it hve a red bit in the corner do that mean its a red key ?

Title: Re: red key
Post by nuttyscorp on Mar 10^th, 2006, 11:28pm

the red key is completly red, all over

hth

Russ

Title: Re: red key
Post by nuttyscorp on Mar 10^th, 2006, 11:34pm

having said that, ive had access to a few scorps over the years, most have a completely red key, however, mine is a '98, with the red square in the corner of the key too!

i do not have a completely red key for this car, so, i think, your seller was not "telling porkies", he is correct!

Russ

Title: Re: red key
Post by bootiful-scorpios on Mar 10^th, 2006, 11:47pm

mine is 98 as well , so perhaps its safe would the red bit be the chip? its just it wont be long befor i need to change the battery as the termanals were rusty , and sometimes when i start thecar up the trip computer lose the miles ive clocked up , and the needles flick to the top and i was told its a week battery , thanks for ur replies nuttyscorps. :) sally

Title: Re: red key
Post by nuttyscorp on Mar 10^th, 2006, 11:54pm

it is the red key! you MAY well be safe in disconect/reconnecting the battery, on a '98 model, i dont know if anything was changed, but my batterys been out several times for moving another scorp, and the only thing i needed to do was re-enter the radio code.

Russ

Title: Re: red key
Post by bootiful-scorpios on Mar 11^th, 2006, 12:06am

do u think it would be wise to get another key cut ? or will it be ok to use this key every day ? lol radio code i ant got that ether but the boys on site said they would be able to get it for me if i get the seriel code of the radio, so hopefully the the radio hve the serial number on it . sally

Title: Re: red key
Post by nuttyscorp on Mar 11^th, 2006, 12:18am

radio code easily sorted here.....by those in the know....

always worth having an extra key!

Russ

Title: Re: red key
Post by bootiful-scorpios on Mar 11^th, 2006, 12:22am

where would be the best place to get another key cut , and do u know how much it would cost ?

Title: Re: red key
Post by bizzay1 on Mar 11^th, 2006, 1:20am

on 03/10/06 at 23:47:54, bootiful-scorpios wrote:

I have recently had my battery changed, for the same problems, I don't have a red key either and all I had to do was enter the radio code

hth

Title: Re: red key
Post by nuttyscorp on Mar 11^th, 2006, 1:42am

on 03/11/06 at 00:22:31, bootiful-scorpios wrote:

where would be the best place to get another key cut , and do u know how much it would cost ?

most key cutters will do it, around £10ish

Russ

Title: Re: red key
Post by bootiful-scorpios on Mar 11^th, 2006, 6:49am

well is nice to hear bazzay had no trouble changing the batterytheres hope for mine now with 2 of u being ok, thanks for that russ i thought they may hve had to be done some where special ,lol,

Title: Re: red key
Post by bootiful-scorpios on Mar 11^th, 2006, 6:52am

on 03/11/06 at 01:20:39, bizzay1 wrote:

I have recently had my battery changed, for the same problems, I don't have a red key either and all I had to do was enter the radio code

hth

did the new battery sort out the reset prob? and the flicker ?

Title: Re: red key
Post by bizzay1 on Mar 11^th, 2006, 7:39am

on 03/11/06 at 06:52:52, bootiful-scorpios wrote:

did the new battery sort out the reset prob? and the flicker ?

Yes it did, but make sure you get the right battery (650 CCA & 71Ah) due to all the toys, cost was £60 with a 3 year warantee, have a read of the thread: -

http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=Problems;action=display;num=1139688007

Title: Re: red key
Post by Celesa on Mar 11^th, 2006, 4:34pm

I recently bought mine from a local battery store and the biggest they have is 570CCA :/ (The former one is 470CCA when I aquired the vehicle a week ago!!!!)

Also from what I gathered now that my car isn't starting anymore is because I disconnected the battery for too long (more than half an hour ) which results the PATS lost *something (Flash memory?)* and not reconising my black key. - Center LED rapidly flashes
The garage said the red key is required to start and reprograme the other keys but which I haven't got.

I am awaiting a callback from them or Ford for a price quote.

Perhaps the rule of thumb when you replace your batttery is make sure you complete it as quickly as possible!!!

Just my two cents!

Title: Re: red key
Post by tony on Mar 11^th, 2006, 6:05pm

That's not normal either. (Not that there is a "normal" with Scorpios)

I've had my battery out for almost a week, on charge, then waiting for a dry day to replace it. Refitted it this morning and it started first time. Just needed to input the radio code.

Title: Re: red key
Post by bootiful-scorpios on Mar 11^th, 2006, 7:43pm

hi celesea , ho dear its not fair not pasing these red keys on is it, is there any way u could contact the person from where you brought the car for ur red key? just in case they hve got the key and kept it in a very safe place and hve forgot them selfs ? it may be worth a go as it will set u back a bit :-[, thank u for the half hour warning concernig the battery did not know that cheers ;) i hope ur car soon get sorted let me know how u get on . sally

Title: Re: red key
Post by tony on Mar 11^th, 2006, 9:27pm

What? ??? Too many glasses of the strong stuff ? ???

Hint - Use the preview post button ;)

Title: Re: red key
Post by Sturdybloke on Mar 11^th, 2006, 9:58pm

The red key is the master key used for reprogramming replacement keys from Ford. When new (as far as im aware with the Scorpio when it was new) they should come with 3 keys. 1 will be the red master key, 1 plain black with the red dot in its top and the third will be either another plain black one or one of the old type with the small torch in it. If you have remote locking fitted then this will come with the seperate plip. Ive not had many dealings with the Ford PATS system but it can be overridden if replacement master keys are not available or are too expensive but then you have no immobiliser. Best bet is to have a chat with your local Ford dealer but take a chair to sit on and brace yourself.......

Title: Re: red key
Post by Celesa on Mar 12^th, 2006, 11:16am

Thats strange, a week?? Did you use your black key to start the car up after you refitted your battery?

If that is the case I have no idea why mine stopped reconising my black key!

bootiful-scorpios, I am afraid I contacted them and the garage said they only have the black key.

By the way my remote works fine, it just wont start.

Title: Re: red key
Post by bootiful-scorpios on Mar 12^th, 2006, 7:50pm

on 03/12/06 at 11:16:27, Celesa wrote:

when u get ya log book through the post you will hve the address of the former owner may be u could give them a try ? just in case there is a tiny chance of getting it , if you ve had the car about a week log book will be in the post now to ya ,

Title: Re: red key
Post by tony on Mar 13^th, 2006, 4:25pm

Hi Celesa,

Yes, just the normal black key. It's not the first time either. As far as I'm aware, there is no time limit when the battery is removed.

Tony