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(Message started by: subaru on Mar 18th, 2006, 8:36pm)

Title: Scorpio 2.5 td
Post by subaru on Mar 18th, 2006, 8:36pm
Hi Everyone, i have been watching the scorpio site for a while with nothing to say or report.!!! BUT My very 2.5TD scorpio has died. Please Help!!!!!. It looks like one of the push rods is very loose and not doing anything. can anyone help to whats happened and how do i fix this problem. Please Please Help Me, many Thanks. :'(

Title: Re: Scorpio 2.5 td
Post by subaru on Mar 18th, 2006, 8:55pm
Hi There, the push rod is complete, and the rocker is fine,, could it be the cam follower and if so how do you repace it and is it a big job???? :'(

Title: Re: Scorpio 2.5 td
Post by tony on Mar 18th, 2006, 9:12pm
Snaped or snapped? Posting for postings sake again

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Subaru,

You are likely on the right track. Could be the cam follower, not too easy if you've no mechanical knowledge, not too difficult if you have.

I've no experience with the TD engines, but theres plenty on here who have, they'll be along before too long with sensible advice.

Tony

Title: Re: Scorpio 2.5 td
Post by tony on Mar 18th, 2006, 9:16pm
hmmmmmmm.........

Title: Re: Scorpio 2.5 td
Post by subaru on Mar 18th, 2006, 9:17pm
Hi Tony, i have quite alot of experience of motorcycles engine but not Diesel engines, please if anyone knows what type of job it is to do please inform me, i am ready and waiting to take the engine to bits, if the job is not to big, many thanks ::)

Title: Re: Scorpio 2.5 td
Post by bootiful-scorpios on Mar 18th, 2006, 9:33pm
http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/engdatadiesel.htm . u may find this a bit helpfull till some one who knows come along  ;)

Title: Re: Scorpio 2.5 td
Post by Snoopy on Mar 19th, 2006, 7:37am
It is apparently quite common for the push rods on the diesel to jump out . It is quite and easy preocedure to put it back... its all on the site but others with more experience with the TD will give you advice.
there is a thread here

http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=Problems;action=display;num=1138624962;start=6#6

and here

http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=Problems;action=display;num=1113584255;start=7#7

Title: Re: Scorpio 2.5 td
Post by subaru on Mar 19th, 2006, 11:03am
Hi Everyone, the advice you have given me so far has helped loads. I have tried to put the puss rod back but there is loads of play in it still, is it possible for the follower to fall to bits and how do i change it????. Thanks for all the people trying to help. ???

Title: Re: Scorpio 2.5 td
Post by Snoopy on Mar 19th, 2006, 1:02pm
The WHOLE ENGINE data for the 2.5 TD is here
http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/TDImanual.htm

Title: Re: Scorpio 2.5 td
Post by sector-9 on Mar 20th, 2006, 12:11am
Looking at the exploded diagram it appears that the cam followers are linked in pairs with a retaining strap.  There is a roller on the bottom of each follower so it's possible that one has failed (fallen off, flat-spotted, etc.)  From the picture it looks like they could be hydraulic followers but I doubt it as that isn't mentioned anywhere.

Also, from the PDF dismantling guide it looks like you'll need to remove the cylinder head (there's actually four separate heads) to be able to extract that pair of followers.

Must add I've not worked on this engine - yet - and I'm hoping I won't have to either...  :-/

Darren

Title: Re: Scorpio 2.5 td
Post by mazzy_j on Mar 20th, 2006, 1:21pm
Yes they are hydraulic followers. Halfway done the link below is a photo of what they look like:

http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=Advice;action=display;num=1142289622;start=

To get to the pushrods, if you havn't already done so, all you need to do is remove the rocker cover and you can have a better look from there to see whats what. Unless it looks like a real mess (hopefully not) there shouldn't be a need to remove the heads. When i took a td engine apart i found that some off the pushrods were quite loose and wondered why, it just depends on the piston and camshaft position as to whether or not that have any pressure on them from the camshaft below.

Hope this is some help.

Matt

Title: Re: Scorpio 2.5 td
Post by subaru on Mar 20th, 2006, 4:56pm
Hi There, i have taken all the advice on board, Thanks to everyone, Just one more question, can you remove just one cylinder Head????????? :) :) :)



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